When Henry met Lukaku *new interview with Lukaku

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    http://www.skysports.com/football/n...all-in-exclusive-interview-with-thierry-henry
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    Scarecrow Having a week off

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    @United_We_Stand I don't think we're allowed to post the entire articles mate, just the link and maybe and excerpt. The site could get in trouble.
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    Damien Self-Aware RedCafe Database (and Admin) Staff

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    You tagged the wrong one, but indeed that is correct. I'll just snip it down to the one question and answer.
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    Damien Self-Aware RedCafe Database (and Admin) Staff

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    I agree with Rom's point about him not being the finished article but unfortunately for him with the price tag on him, many won't see it the same way.
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    Terminator New Member

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    Talks too much. come at me.
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    Scarecrow Having a week off

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    Right, corrected. By the way, do people still get alerts when tagged in the edit but not in the original post?

    On topic - he seems to have the right mindset. BFFs with Rashford, by the looks of it.

    That bit is also interesting and quite relevant these days:
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    Damien Self-Aware RedCafe Database (and Admin) Staff

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    Nope.
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    EyeInTheSky Full Member

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    One aspect that I can't see improving is his first touch. Players don't tend to improve that aspect as it's either sublime, good or average to poor.

    His hold up play needs to improve significantly if he wants to give us another dimension when he finds himself with his back to goal
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    @Scarecrow @Damien oops sorry, yes I'm sure I went through discussions about other media outlets threatening to sue the site, I just thought you could quote as long as you provide a link to the original article.

    @Damien So are we allowed to quote only one paragraph? What's the general rule for quoting soucres?
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    Bravo!
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    EyeInTheSky Full Member

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    But.. But Jose always plays not to lose...
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    Damien Self-Aware RedCafe Database (and Admin) Staff

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    One paragraph/summary with link to source.
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    I must say it's quite unusual for a football player to be so outspoken like Lukaku. He has a really good grasp of the English language as well and it's great to see how motivated he is about succeeding here. However the best way to answer any critics is to keep performing and help the team win games. He doesn't have to score in every game and as long as he keeps improving I can see him hitting 30+ goals every season.
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    Seems to be a thing with Belgian players. Everton fans used to get pissed that every time he went away for the national team he'd start talking to the journalists about his future plans and Fellaini before him as well. Courtois and Hazard have done it a fair bit too.
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    Damien Self-Aware RedCafe Database (and Admin) Staff

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    And Musonda's instagram rant during the last international break.
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    Just saw the interview on YouTube. Have to say, I'm impressed with his overall maturity. But if he wants to be a top top striker - he needs to stop thinking that people should not judge him as the finished article yet. He should work on getting better, but he needs to start thinking now that he is the best in the world. That kind of confidence alone can put you up there.
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    UnrelatedPsuedo I pity the poor fool who stinks like I do!

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    Giving this a bump as it's loosely on the same lines. It's hard to draw clear lines between who is getting the most out of the Belgians but it's clear as day that Henry and Lukaku get along very well.

    Another article here - https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...m-stay-in-shadows-france-world-cup-semi-final

    Didn't start a new thread as I don't give a damn about the articles angle on Henry's French/Belgian conflict.

    Lukaku has looked great in this world cup. It could be argued he's looked 'different' too. He's offering so much more than he does at United. Whether that's because he has Hazard and KdB behind him, or whether it's due to intensive coaching from a trusted and qualified ex-World Class centre forward is anyone's guess.

    I wonder if Jose's ego would allow Henry to work in a casual, yet official capacity at United.
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    I think he doesn't look too different, it's just the perception of Lukaku here is that he's a donkey sometimes and he can be when we are playing some dull shit, so you would be right with Hazard and de Bruyne and in attacking system which Martinez practices he could play better but he had similar pieces of play and quality when we were playing good too. I would like to see the United machine next year with full energy and Fred in midfield, I think he can kinda change it alone, finally unleash Pogba. Hope we get that RW too, or perhaps Lukaku himself could be tried there too..
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    Why bump this thread? There's no new interview.
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    UnrelatedPsuedo I pity the poor fool who stinks like I do!

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    Themes from the first carried into this article.

    Quote from Lukaku from within;

    Even in England they sometimes meet. “We discuss what I have to do better. I also talk him sometimes through some old games. One with Arsenal in the 2005-2006 season, for instance. I can tell you all about it, and then he brings out details from one of my matches, and together we look for ways in which I can do even better. I learn from him every day. The way of moving, how to find the spaces, control the ball as well as possible. He could do it all. I have learned so much from him.”

    I don't think many would argue that Lukaku has looked a lot sharper and more dangerous for Belgium than he does for United.
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    haram Full Member

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    Not really. At United his miss vs Japan would just be highlighted more than his dummy for the winner.
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    Maybe we should give a chance to our new 2 coaching stuff first before we talk about that ? Just saying.
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    UnrelatedPsuedo I pity the poor fool who stinks like I do!

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    The second sentence spoke to the first;

    "It could be argued he's looked 'different' too. He's offering so much more than he does at United. Whether that's because he has Hazard and KdB behind him..."

    He looks better for Belgium than he does for United. I'd guess it's by design and that Jose asks him to stay more centrally. We never get to see the full pitch-width impact he has shown at this world cup. Having Hazard and (to a lesser extent) de Bruyne working fluidly with him no doubt helps.

    It's not so much about converting chances so much as what parts of the pitch he's occupying and moving into. Perhaps I'm giving too much credit to Henry and it's simply a factor of the system letting him display a different side to his game.
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    Henry at United :lol: The man is an Arsenal legend , would be insulting him even by asking.
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    Tomuś Nani is crap, I tell you!

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    It's not happening for different reasons but we're talking about a fecking coaching job. Specific coaching job, too and something like almost 1,5 decades after leaving Arsenal. Not a player/manager or even assistant one. Far from insulting and I'd actually think Henry would take it as a pleasant recognition of his top work.

    Not saying he would accept it as it's all hypothetical.
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    yep. 2 Complete sitters he missed.
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    EyeInTheSky Full Member

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    Bring Henry to coach Martial. If he can't inspire that miserable cnut no one can.

    Ready, get set, BITE!!
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    I'd love to be a fly on the wall when Henry tries to win Mourinho over with stories of movement, pace with and creating chances
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    UnrelatedPsuedo I pity the poor fool who stinks like I do!

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    Matt Busby played his entire career at Manchester City and Liverpool.

    Playing and Coaching are completely different things.
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    Tomuś Nani is crap, I tell you!

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    Was going to say Sir Matt Busby but it would've been immediately discarded as 'different era'. The theory it would 'insult' Henry is bobbins.
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    UnrelatedPsuedo I pity the poor fool who stinks like I do!

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    To be fair, I think Mourinho trusts his chosen attacking players to act independently and be the difference makers.

    Problem is, he also likes his principle centre forward to be a fulcrum for the wide players. Lukaku looks far more threatening when he's given license to roam and he has movement around him.

    Hopefully with a decent(ish) pre-season and a fresh Sanchez this coming season we might see a bit more fluidity across our front line.
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    He could be a calming influence on Martial and Pogba whilst helping Lukaku further develop his game. Would be fantastic to get him as a coach, but it has to be unlikely no?
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    UnrelatedPsuedo I pity the poor fool who stinks like I do!

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    My line of thought is more akin to us having a go-to 'knee doctor'. You don't necessarily employ permanent specialist staff. Employing Henry full-time is probably a step too far. I think the guy has genuine aspirations to coach and possibly manage at a high level.

    But if any of Lukaku's progress is down to spending intensive time with a coach who he's struck up a genuine rapport and trust with, I'd want the club to maximise that input.
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    Yeah, I agree completely. I also think he'd have a positive effect on our two French players who are so gifted but keep struggling.
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    Bring in Thierry as a coach. Pretty sure he is a closet United fan anyway :smirk:
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    I dunno

    felt like Lukaku fed on scraps last season and our build up was so slow that he was always battling a packed defence
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    The guy is going to coach Belgium against his country, France, at World Cup. This surely is tougher than facing Arsenal with United.

    Still it looks strange for me to talk about coaching stuff changing before even saying what the already done new changes will make.
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    Our strikers are living on scraps because oour full backs are crap. Valencia is invariably going to hit the first man in front or jump up and down on the spot and slow the game down. Strikers need the ball played early.
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    Nope, every time I see the Header I read "When Harry met Sally"

    Wouldn't mind but i've never seen the film