Who are the best ball-retaining/conduit/metronomic central midfielders in the world?

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  1. Dec 12, 2017
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    Ecstatic Full Member

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    Yes. Friends on and off the pitch. Rabiot is an emerging player but he's a B2B while Verratti is a central midfielder and Motta #6.
  2. Dec 12, 2017
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    Stefano Sensi reminds me of Verratti.

    I've seen a bit of Sassuolo this year and he's really impressed me. Good passing with both feet, is good at defending when out of possession, rotates with Locatelli as a 6 and further up as an 8 so is versatile, and, despite his size, he can hold off opposition players whilst shielding the ball with excellent strength, close ball control and decent dribbling like Verratti.

    Also, looks like Fred has the potential to become a decent one for us.
  5. Apr 16, 2019
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    Arthur.
  6. Apr 16, 2019
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    Fred, are you serious?
    Have to go with Arthur Melo/ Veratti
  7. Apr 16, 2019
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    Top 12 metronomic pass masters from the old guard:
    1. Thiago
    2. Jorginho
    3. Verratti
    4. Rakitic
    5. Witsel
    6. Kroos
    7. Gundogan
    8. Allan
    9. Fernandinho
    10. Busquets
    11. Brozovic
    12. Carvalho
    Up & coming metronomes:
    Paredes, Rabiot, Maxime Lopez, Winks, Ruiz, Cyprien, Arthur, Ceballos, Ndombele, Rodrigo, Zielinski
  8. Apr 16, 2019
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    You must be joking. Half of those are tacklers and not actual passers in the midfield.

    Carvalho and Allan particularly are bizarre suggestions when talking about “metronomic pass masters”.
  9. Apr 16, 2019
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    Not joking.

    It's based on stats although granted Carvalho should be number 13 as I somehow left out Pjanic by accident.

    Anyways, here are stats for them 2 guys you highlighted:

    Allan
    - 24 apps
    - 76.5 total passes per game
    - 65.1 accurate short passes out of 71.4 attempted per game
    - 3.8 accurate long passes out of 5.1 attempted per game

    Carvalho
    - 25 apps
    - 68.9 total passes per game
    - 57.5 accurate short passes out of 63.7 attempted per game
    - 3.8 accurate long passes out of 5.2 attempted per game
  10. Apr 16, 2019
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    Cracking post.
  11. Apr 19, 2019
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    I'd also add Andre Gomes since moving to Everton. He's really impressed me as a DLP there. I always thought he had potential as one but he probably wasn't going to be Barca's one with the other quality CMs they have.

    Would you agree @BigDunc9 & @SilentWitness ?

    Fred, whilst not as good as the likes of Verratti, has shown the potential to become a decent one, imo. He's got a good range of passing, has improved his strength on the ball, can use both feet to good effect.

    Only problems are that he's inconsistent at defending. Sometimes, he wins the ball back for fun like Herrera, and others he presses at the wrong times, leaving us completely open (though, to be fair, he's alone in CM quite a bit), and is weak in the tackle. And the other problem is that he can be too loose/careless with the ball, causing him to lose it too easily.

    Arthur reminds me of Isco in that he is near impossible to dispossess, but his passing leaves a lot to be desired. Still, like Isco, I'm a big fan of his playstyle regardless.
  12. Apr 20, 2019
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    Fred, whilst not as good as the likes of Verratti, has shown the potential to become a decent one, imo. /QUOTE]

    Fred is 26 yrs old and you shouldn't be talking about "potential". Fred should be at the peak of his powers and what you see is what you get.
  13. Apr 20, 2019
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    Modric was 26 yrs old when joining Real madrid. He was the "flop-signing of the season". I guess what Real saw in the first season was, what they got. I mean he should have been at the peak of his powers.

    As you see, you could have written exactly the same about Luka Modric at the end of his first season in Madrid, in a new league. But is it correct, turned it out this way? Football isn't that simple.
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    To me the TOP playmakers are: Modric, Kroos, Pjanic, Verratti, Eriksen. I hope I can add Arthur & D. Jong in the future.
  15. Apr 20, 2019
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    Verratti.

    Modric (ageing)

    Carzola (ageing)

    Thiago Motta (ageing)

    David Silva (ageing)

    Bernardo Silva.

    Pjanic.

    Kroos.

    Eriksen.

    Moutinho.

    Decent ones:

    Alcantara. (Looks better as a no 10 than in the midfield)

    Arthur (has the potential to become better)

    Grealish (has the potential to become better)

    Maddison (Just like Grealish).

    Wijnaldum.

    Henderson.

    Neves (has the potential to become better)

    Xhaka (his lack of agility and poor control under pressure is really a let down but when given free space to operate, he can be deadly)

    Young quality ones to look out for:

    Sandro Tonali.

    Phil Foden.

    I see Jorginho more as a Busquet than a playmaker.
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    Pjanic impressed me the most at Old Trafford this season, he's quality.
  17. Apr 25, 2019
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    We could do with a CM who can keep the ball under pressure like this. Only 24, too.

    Yeah, everyone is different.

    One of the best CMs I've seen in recent years was Cazorla before his unfortunate injury. I believe he only started playing as a CM/DLP at around 28/29, too, and he was just amazing there. Probably - alongside Carrick - my favourite CM in the league a few years ago.
  18. Apr 25, 2019
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    Maybe I just have a different definition of this type of player compared to other posters. I've always been of the opinion that this type of player is like Scholes, Xavi, and Modric? Or is my standard too high?

    There are certainly posers like Cleverley where they act like they're the brain of the team, but they're not press resistant and aren't great at breaking lines.

    Of the new generation I would say that De Jong is one of them.


    As for United, this is the type of player needed. I'm hoping we try and develop Gomes into this kind of player, but it's hard to know what the plan for him is.
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    Arthur has really impressed me.
  20. Apr 25, 2019
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    What?
  21. Apr 25, 2019
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    Yes. Often anonymous in the midfield. You can ask Bayern fans.

    In fact, his performance in the role for Spain u21 was horrible until Koke was introduced while Thiago was moved upfield. That was the only time he got back to his best. He's had his moment in the midfield but highly inconsistent. It's no wonder that Ceballos is above him in the pecking order for the Spanish national team.

    The likes of Ceballos and Koke are more of a playmakers than Thiago.
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    I know I'm biased and all that but closer to home Winks is a good player and that sort of style - if he can stay fit and improve he could be a very good player.
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    He is more in the Khedira/Henderson category not really a place for him on this thread.
  24. Apr 25, 2019
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    I think he can be classified as one, sure. Always looking to get on the ball, rarely loses it when pressed with decent ball shielding, and the ability to turn out of trouble. The only thing he seems to lack is passing range, but I'd still class him as that style of CM personally.
  25. Apr 25, 2019
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    More of a recycler like Busquet. Eriksen is your playmaker.

    It would be good if you had another playmaker to combine with Eriksen which would allow both to play in tadem with each other such as Xavi/Iniesta for Barca, Modric/Alonso for Madrid, Kroos/Modric, Pirlo/Marchiso, Carrick/Scholes for Manutd.
  26. Apr 25, 2019
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    Might misunderstand the word metronome, but is that the role Frenkie de Jong plays? Because if it is, he might become a good one. His passing is quite excellent, though he's also quite focused on the tackling side of things.