Who is the most overrated player in PL history?

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    Random Task Correctly predicted France to win World Cup 2018

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    Do I disagree with your biased opinion that Scholes is/was overrated? Yes, I do.

    I have already said as much in this thread.
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    sullydnl Ross Kemp's caf ID

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    A cult has developed around the previously underrated Scholes since his retirement, as evidenced by the player quotes about him that have become a well mocked meme at this point.

    Given that, I'm not at all surprised that Scholes is now seen as overrated. I would certainly expect that to be the case on neutral forums, where posters have spent years hearing Manchester United fans shower praise on him.

    Given we're no less biased than other fans, there are bound to be players Manchester United fans as a group overrate. Of course the people who overrate those players aren't going to accept that they're overrating them because, well, that's how overrating works. I think Scholes is as fair a call as any to fit into that category. All you really have to do is see what neutral fans actually have to say on the issue.
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    RedDevil@84 Full Member

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    Can replace the front two with Rooney and Shearer?
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    M Utd Full Member

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    Haha do we at least agree that Joe Hart gets the number 1 jersey?
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    shamans Hoser

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    Just want to see Scholes hit a volley.
    They were mentioned too? :houllier:
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    Tiber Full Member

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    The cult of Kagawa springs to mind
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    Random Task Correctly predicted France to win World Cup 2018

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    If the general consensus among neutral fans is that Scholes wasn't quite as good we United fans think he was, then he wouldn't be overrated at all, rather he would be underrated or simply fairly rated (is fairly rated even a thing?).

    The entire metric for the measuring of players, past or present, needs to clearly defined before you can enter into a debate if we're being honest.
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    shamans Hoser

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    Just want to see Scholes hit a volley.
    TBF like you said he just had this weird cult following that rated him. Many of us always thought/knew he was kinda average.
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    RedDevil@84 Full Member

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    Oh yes!!
    PL's all time top 2 scorers were definitely overrated. Caf knows
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    Random Task Correctly predicted France to win World Cup 2018

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    That they were born in England does not help their cause.
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    Casanova85 Full Member

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    Cesc Fábregas (Arsenal years).
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    SwansonsTache incontinent sexual deviant & German sausage lover

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    I can't really think of someone very overrated, but I do remember the one season wonders.

    Roque Santa Cruz, Amr Zaki and Mido comes to mind. Fascinating how you can go from shit hot to just shit.
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    M Utd Full Member

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    Some of those are a blast from the past.
    I remember watching a football program about rising stars. It must have been before either a world cup or euros back in the day and they were banging on about Santa Cruz. Pretty sure he was playing for a German team at the time. Bayern maybe?
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    Lebo New Member

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    Rooney is the top goal scorer of United and that’s despite him not playing as a striker except for 2seasons. Somehow he is overrated? I’ve never been a fan of the guys style of play but you can’t deny that he was brilliant.
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    Lebo New Member

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    This award belongs to none other than the great Scott Parker. Followed closely by Valencia, Park, Fabregas
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    Stacks Full Member

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    Beckham? My God this thread is the plague in one thread. In fact Beckhams's best attribute is being Neville's best mate and marrying a spice girl.
    Gotta accept it mate. He's overrated. Just had a good long shot from time to time but positionally awful, passing decision making was league 2 levels hence all the missed Hollywood balls. Selfish, tactically enept. In fact, but for his athleticism and hard shot, he may not have made it pro. Yet another player relying on physical attributes.
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    I think a few people had heard of us before Beckham. :nervous: ffs
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    Verminator Full Member

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    Amazing how he was overrated at every club he played for. Why would any club give him a job? To sell shirts?
    Wow! This place!
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    Roy Keane
    Frank Lampard
    Alexis Sanchez
    Wayne Rooney
    Kevin De Bruyne
    Dele Alli
    Van Dijk
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    shamans Hoser

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    Just want to see Scholes hit a volley.
    What the hell is this
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    RedDevil@84 Full Member

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    "It is known"
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    Sauldogba New Member

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    Yeah you are right.
    I thought i remembered him scoring in a final but for some reason my mind went a bit blank.
    Thanks.
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    Jezpeza Full Member

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    Maybe not that overrated but remember Ljungberg? Part of the invincible etc etc then left for west ham and looked like a pub player
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    OverratedOpinion Full Member

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    Gerrard had a lot of great attributes but some hideous flaws to his game. I think he is a level below Scholes, Keane and Viera.

    Cantona is one of my favourite players of all time but due to him leading us to 5 titles, his charisma and playing in a relatively weak league at the time he is viewed by some as being a better player than he actually was.
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    montpelier Full Member

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    Jay-Jay Okocha

    There are some poor sods growing up today playing FIFA Ultimate team over the last few years, who will grow up believing that he was some sort of footballing legend and one of the best players to have ever played football. Bollocks he was, good player but as far as I know was never even close to that level.
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    Righteous Steps Full Member

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    Weird one, as hardly anyone thinks he’s a top tier legend, at the same time ability wise he is undoubtedly one of the greatest players to kick a ball, how can you think not? He could make any pass in the book, shoot with either feet, score 40 yard free kicks and was as skilful as anyone not named Ronaldinho, if not for dubious career moves he would have been even more well regarded, if you saw Okocha at 98 World Cup you would know he was uniquely talented and in retrospect underachieved for one reason or the other.
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    Random Task Correctly predicted France to win World Cup 2018

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    On today's form for sure.
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    Ricardo de la Vega Full Member

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    Can't believe people are actually daring to suggest Alan Shearer was overrated....Alan fecking Shearer man...he was better than probably anyone playing football today outside of Messi, Neymar and Ronaldo.
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    GM K Full Member

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    Lampard overrated? How?
    Outscored great strikers from the midfield. The ultimate big game player. And was at the heart of Chelsea's challenge of United's dominance in the premier league. I dare say he is even often underrated.
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    Ricardo de la Vega Full Member

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    I remember when Chelsea bought Lampard from West Ham for £12m and I thought he was overrated at the time. I am happy to admit I was proved majorly wrong. The guy was utterly heroic for a decade or so. So many goals from him just timing that run into the box right...
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    GM K Full Member

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    Hazard overrated? Wow. He will walk into any team in Europe today, easily. The same can be said about any team in Europe in the last 5 seasons or so including the all conquering Barcelona and Madrid teams.
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    VorZakone What would Kenny G do?

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    Hazard is a great PL player, but outside of the PL, he has really shown far too little. Did nothing of note for Chelsea in the CL and he hasn't truely shone for Belgium other than reaching 1 WC semi-final.

    At a time he was compared to Neymar, but Neymar is on another level compared to Hazard IMO.
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    People saying "Lampard" only means that they know jack about football.
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    Leif GW New Member

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    Harry Kewell. Always talked about like some kind of genius, in the end he never did anything.
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    Obi-Red-Kenobi New Member

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    Might be, might be....there’s a difference, and I still said he was a great player.
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    Obi-Red-Kenobi New Member

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    Great player on his day, but overrated when added to the ‘best player in the world’ debate. Never has been, and never will be. He’s stringy in his level of performances.
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    Tommy bigot with fetish for footballers getting fingered

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    Everyone besides Messi/Ronaldo that is thrust into that debate is overrated.
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    Not saying he's overrated, but Ruud van Nistelrooy is rated far, higher in Manchestera than he is in Holland.

    Here he was mostly seen as a great target man with poor technique. Honestly think most Dutch people rate Kluivert higher.