Why did we buy Fred?

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  1. Apr 14, 2019

    AR87 Full Member

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    Has fallen for Fred way too soon
    It is worth persisting through these errors because he adds so much more dynamism and speed to our build up. Obviously he needs to iron out his errors, but we also need to just give him a run in the team to allow him to do so. There's no upside to playing Matic over him short-term or for the future.
  2. Apr 21, 2019

    luke511 Full Member

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    I can't believe we've bought a midfielder in Fred that can't consistently string a pass together, that was our biggest problem last year and we've just added to it in buying him. I remember watching highlights of him playing for Shakhtar and thinking his overall gameplay consistency wasn't anywhere near up to standard. Our scouts are absolutely clueless.
  3. Apr 21, 2019

    El Zoido Full Member

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    He’s crap but at least he’s trying, which is more than you could say for other players.
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    luke511 Full Member

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    Yeah he's definitely not the worst player on the pitch at the moment, its just so obvious he wasn't what we needed in midfield, especially with Pogba already there. Incredibly frustrating.
  5. Apr 21, 2019

    2 man midfield Incestuous Modern Woman (Dumper!)

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    Pretty much. Lukaku also looks like he gives half a shit, it’s just a shame he’s actual shit.
  6. Apr 21, 2019

    Josep Dowling Full Member

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    If it was true Guardiola wanted him surely he saw something? There is no way Fred’s poor passing would have been accepted by Guardiola.

    We have done our usual, bought a player then used him completely different to his game. He isn’t a defensive midfielder but that’s exactly the role he has now. It’s the same throughout our squad.
  7. Apr 21, 2019

    Irwin99 Full Member

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    Looks a completely different player in Europe (against PSG and to a lesser extent Barca). Just seems to get overwhelmed by the intensity of the league.
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    Welbeckham Full Member

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    I really didn’t understand the signing, let alone the transfer fee, because you could see by watching any video of him that he’s weak, slow, erratic and has a bad touch for a player of his position. And Shaktar didn’t really succeed in Europe during his time (compared with the previous generation), nor was he the absolute stand-out player in that team.
  9. Apr 21, 2019

    Red00012 Full Member

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    “ At least he’s trying “
    A sad reflection of times at Utd.
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    izec Full Member

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    Sell him for half the price and move on
  11. Apr 21, 2019

    Schmeichel's Cartwheel Full Member

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    Same reason we got Sanchez, because City wanted him.
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    11101 Full Member

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    He works well with McTominay. With Matic he is doing the running for both of them + Pogba. Just like when we expect Pogba to run the midfield on its own, it doesn't work.

    He is good enough, im sure of that.
  13. Apr 24, 2019

    SS Full Member

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    Can we add "the feck" to the title?
  14. Apr 24, 2019

    LuisNaniencia Sky Sports called my bluff

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    I like his effort but gives the ball away far too much for a top team.
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    BlahRules Full Member

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    He gives away the ball a lot of the time but some of the passes were not his fault. I just don’t understand why the players needs the ball to the feet, how hard would it be to move a bit.

    The biggest issue with our team is that they are not willing to receive the call when they are on the move. We are too slow and predictable.
  16. Apr 24, 2019

    hobbers Full Member

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    Why did we buy Fred?

    To make Lukaku feel more like a professional footballer.
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    bond19821982 Full Member

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    He is not a DM
  18. Apr 24, 2019

    Enigma_87 You know who

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    Bebe-esque performance.
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    KirkDuyt Full Member

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    I honestly doubt he's better than Jordy Clasie.
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    Enigma_87 You know who

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    Not sure what his best quality is.

    Crap in the build up, crap at retaining possession. Very poor awareness and positioning. Crap decision making...
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    Dansk Full Member

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    As with 90% of our signings in the last six years, we bought him because he was quite good at his last club, but he promptly turned to shit when he arrived here. I don't know how many times in a row this has to happen before people realize there's something fundamentally wrong at the club and those players were actually fine. Bonus points if we then sell him on and he becomes good all of a sudden.
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    Josep Dowling Full Member

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    My biggest issues with the team for years. Our off the ball movement is shocking. We play like a netball team.
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    Kamprad New Member

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    He’s got the same problem as Martial. To arrogant and sloppy. It’s his first season in England, he’s been used in a role that doesn’t suit him, he’s probably lacking form and the whole team is playing bad BUT if United doesn’t miraculously start playing possession football next season he should be sold ASAP.
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    BlahRules Full Member

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    Agree. We are the easier team to defend against, just cut the pass. The players don’t move to make the pass or even attempt to retain the ball if it’s not passed to the feet.

    I have seen so many times where the city players didn’t pass the ball at the feet but run on to the ball.
  25. Apr 24, 2019

    Rolandofgilead Inserts strawberry yoghurt rectally Scout

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    I pissed myself when I heard city were in for him, I really wanted it to be true.

    Then I stopped laughing.
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    AlwaysRed66 Full Member

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    Mourinho got hammered for not playing the likes of Fred. He seems to be vindicated with a lot of these players. Pity his man management & tactics were so poor.
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    Josep Dowling Full Member

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    Well why the hell did Mourinho buy him then!
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    Welbeckham Full Member

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    Mourinho is such a genius, really knew how to use Fred.

    I said he was nowhere near good enough on his transfer thread based on what I had seen. Disappointingly, he has done nothing to prove me wrong since.
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    noodlehair "It's like..."

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    He wasn't actually that bad tonight, just to point out. Not even the worst performance from a United midfielder in the last 5 days and unlike either Herrera or Matic in other recent derbies, he actually had the guts to try and pick a forward pass rather than just dick around with the ball or lump it up the pitch to nowhere.

    Don't let that stop the over the top sillyness though
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    Salus Populi Suprema Lex Full Member

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    Did he really cost £50 million?
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    Ekeke Full Member

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    Because he agreed to buy him :lol:

    Ole is having to work around Mourinho's set up for the season and his squad
  32. Apr 25, 2019

    Beachryan More helpful with spreadsheets than Phurry

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    Where's the old Zombie passing thread, that was legendary. Pretty sure it was under Fergie!
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    MrBest Full Member

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    This. Mctominay allows Fred to play football and they both work hard for the team. Until the end of the season i would have them both as starters.
  34. Apr 26, 2019

    lawliet354 Full Member

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    Because Pep wanted Fred, just like Pep wanted Sanchez, Mou would do anything to get one up on Pep, too bad he can't do it in the league.
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    Inigo Montoya Leave Wayne Rooney alone!!

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    I bet he'd look good in Pep's set up
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    The Nani New Member

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    If his teammates would’ve shown for the ball more he wouldn't have given the ball away so much.

    Am I doing it right ?
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    singhters New Member

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    It's his first season, came from a different league, give him a chance to settle.

    Takes time for some players to settle in a different team a different environment, remember how long it took,

    Andy Cole
    Rvn
    Ronaldo

    took a season or 2 to really get going, some players can hit the ground running some it takes a little time.
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    lawliet354 Full Member

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    He probably will, and I still think and hope Fred will be a success here, he looks a bit careless but I really like how progressive he is with the pass.
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    MadMike Full Member

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    We live in this parallel reality where people feel Mourinho is vindicated for not using shit players but not liable for buying them in the first place.

    Same as when people backed him regarding the CB situation last summer, conveniently forgetting that he signed 2 of them (Bailly, Lindelof) and renewed a 3rd (Rojo) during his reign.

    The “players are shit” excuse doesn’t wash when you’ve had 3 summer windows and 400m expenditure to fix it, yet you spunked it all away.
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    united for life New Member

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    Below average. One of the worst passers of the ball. He tries hard but he’s just not good enough. Another poor signing