Why did we buy Fred?

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  1. Jul 11, 2019

    jesperjaap Full Member

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    Lets face it, he actually looked scared and out of his depth half the time last season, he really cant be that bad again this season. I think he is a much better player than he has showed....but I also think the much better player is still not a good enough one for us to make great strides forward
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    ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg Full Member

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    How long does it take to marry your sister?

    Mind you Kleberson married a 14 year old.
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    Lee565 Full Member

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    Was Mourinho just targeting him and Sanchez as they were both high on the list of targets for man city and he just wanted to disrupt their transfer priorities in a bid to gain ground in them?
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    jesperjaap Full Member

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    ALthough I liked Rafael, he seems to be very fondly remembered during his time here as a player and I cant work out why. He had the one season, was it Fergusons las or MOyes first, where he really improved and was pretty good, apart from that he was naive and over assertive defensively.

    I do like Valencia, actually think bar the last season he was pretty good as a right back for us and ok on the wing. Decent player, loyal servant, should be well remembered and recieved in my opinion too.


    As for the rest, doing the dirty or not, I think both Heinze and Tevez were both superb in the short time they were with us and playing devils advocate would you expect an English player to be loyal if they moved to Santos for example? Veron started off well, he was a luxury player we didnt need but I liked him even though he flopped in the end. I also liked ANderson, though he never progressed from a good start, he was part of one of our great sides after all and he did love the club.
    I think DiMaria looked good for us too at first when played in midfield, the he got injured, got the burglary, came back played out wide which was an utter waste and quite obviously never settled with the culture so fair enough to name him.

    Sanchez and Forlan certainly can be labelled in your argument, two very very good players that have been awful for us.

    I would say SOuth American wise certainly with Brazilians, its not so much a case of them floping, more we havent actually signed a good one yet. Could almost say that for the whole league, mainl the better ones signed have been unBrazilian workman like players, such as the Arsenal midfielders. I liked Juninho and I do rate Jesus too, but there hasnt been a bona fide world class flamboyant Brazilian in our league to my memory anyway.....just RObinho the show pony
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    izec Full Member

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    If he doesnt cut it this season, sell him for a loss and move on, instead of keeping him here for another 6 years as a squad option and nobody willing to offer us 10m at the end of it.
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    redshaw Full Member

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    Javier Hernandez was good.

    I think it's more poorly researched players mixed in with some good ones like Valencia, Javier, Rafael, Romero and Tevez did well as did Heinze

    Falcao was injured and failed at Chelsea, took a while to get himself back. Di Maria wanted to move to PSG. Fred's game is high up the pitch.
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    Litch Full Member

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    I think hes a player but not sure if he can adapt to the prem as his best games were in Europe......
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    Nou_Camp99 Full Member

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    Mexico isn't in South America pal.
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    Mr Pigeon baldy fatty bum bum

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    Wait, what?!

    Followed closely by

    Wait, what?!?!
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    Gopher Brown Full Member

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    Actually, he had to wait until she was 15 to marry her and bring her over.

    Shocking either way. Glad he didn’t work out.
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    redshaw Full Member

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    Yes technically that's correct just like EL Salvador and Honduras isn't.
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    Ainu Full Member

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    Why would he be marrying his sister? :confused:

    As for the second part, I don't even know what to say.
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    sunama Baghdad Bob

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    This would be logical. But Woodward is not logical. He has a track record of putting deadwood onto long term contracts.
    Darmian is currently wasting away and has been for several years, yet, we refuse to let him go.
    Fred was tried out last season, but clearly he has not cut the mustard and is now missing in pre-season training, at a time when he should be working on his fitness to bridge the gap between his actual performance the the required performance level. I know that he is getting married, but why on Earth did he choose this date, for his wedding? It makes no sense.

    EDIT: it may be the case that he is merely attending a wedding. If this is true, this just makes the whole situation even worse.
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    simplyared Full Member

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    Said it before: rubbish signing. A player who brings absolutely nothing to the table. All he does is get dispossessed in dangerous areas and puts pressure on our own defence. A manager's nightmare!
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    Andy_Cole Full Member

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    Not Mourinho - Woodward.
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    Halftrack Full Member

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    16, actually, but yeah. He cheated on her with a 15-year old, who apparently worked as a night club dancer.
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    DoomSlayer Full Member

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    It's been almost a full week and Fred still isn't on tour. He and Darmian must be getting sold.
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    BluesJr Full Member

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    Best player in the league this year.
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    redshaw Full Member

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    I'd be surprised anyone would buy him. United don't look in the mood to write off part part of his transfer fee. Maybe a loan but we're short of midfielders and we're struggling to buy.

    Perhaps it's just family reasons.
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    Zlatattack Full Member

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    I'm even less sure now than i was before.
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    DoomSlayer Full Member

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    We are in the most important part of pre-season. Ole will be deciding on future tactics, formations and selections. Right now, Fred won't even be part of the subs bench in his mind. I bet even the likes of Garner will get more playing time.
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    Bestietom Full Member

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    Fred will be joining up next week. I think he will come good this year.
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    DoomSlayer Full Member

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    How do you know any of that?
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    Lee565 Full Member

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    If we really are in for Fernandes i wonder if the club would try to do straight swap deal for him with fred?
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    bond19821982 Full Member

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    Swapping a b2b with an AM ?
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    Lee565 Full Member

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    Depends if we really are after Fernandes and whether sporting would be content with such a swap deal and leaves us the Fernandes money to also buy a b2b midfielder
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    bond19821982 Full Member

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    Fred is on 100k + wages and signed last year for 50m +

    Why would both teams do a swap?
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    Litch Full Member

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    Like him and in fairness played his best football in some big games in Europe. Transition to the prem is hard enough when your joining a team in transition too....
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    roseguy64 Full Member

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    Only if Fred gets a long term injury.
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    DoomSlayer Full Member

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    Don't think so. In my opinion, Ole won't have Fred in his plans after missing a whole week of the tour already.

    He made sure every player was preparing themselves during the holidays so the squad can come in and go straight into working for the upcoming season. This is the time to impress the manager - Garner is a very talented lad anyway, so he might be a better option in the future instead of Fred.
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    Stacks Full Member

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    You guys are so late. We obviously bought Fred so we can finally get Ronaldinho......
  32. Jul 13, 2019 at 00:19

    UNITED ACADEMY Full Member

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    We signed him because we thought he’s a type of deep playmaker who can bring the ball from the back to forward. But it turns up that he’s very clumsy when under pressure and giving the ball away. He has good vision & instinct to play forward passes but he doesn’t have the composure.

    Time will tell this season whether he can meet the expectation why we signed him.
  33. Jul 13, 2019 at 00:31

    Hammondo New Member

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    Pogba plays the Mata role though.