With your own eyes in your own lifetime... Who are the best:

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    Fortitude TV/Monitor Expert

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    Only players you've seen in real time and not from ages gone by before you were born (so no Maradona etc. If you're a 90's baby, for example)

    Players

    Best 3 players for:

    1. Your club.

    2. Your country.

    3. Your league.

    4. Of your lifetime.

    5. Goalkeepers (domestic)

    6. Centre back (domestic)

    7. Left back (domestic)

    8. Right back (domestic)

    9. Defensive midfielders (domestic)

    10. Two-way midfielders (domestic)

    11. Left wingers/wing-forwards (domestic)

    12. Right wingers/wing-forwards
    (domestic)

    13. Attacking midfielders (domestic)

    14. Support/2nd fowards (domestic)

    15. Strikers (domestic)

    16. Goalkeepers (outright)

    17. Centre back (outright)

    18. Left back (outright)

    19. Right back (outright)

    20. Defensive midfielders (outright)

    21. Two-way midfielders (outright)

    22. Left wingers/wing-forwards (outright)

    23. Right wingers/wing-forwards
    (outright)

    24. Attacking midfielders (outright)

    25. Support/2nd fowards (outright)

    26. Strikers (outright)

    Managers

    27. Top 3 managers of your club

    28. Top 3 domestic managers

    29. Top 3 managers outright.

    Games

    30. Top 3 games for your club.

    31. Top 3 games you've seen.

    32. The 3 most crushing defeats.

    Teams

    33. 3 greatest sides your club has had, by season. I.e 94-95 United etc.

    34. 3 greatest club sides in your league, by season. I.e 94-95 United etc.

    35. 3 greatest club sides (outright)

    36. 3 greatest international sides

    37. 3 worst sides your club has had, by season I.e '13-'14 United etc.

    38. 3 sides who you felt came up short.
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    Arbitrium Full Member

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    You're asking us to devote way too much to discuss something that every person on here has mentioned at one point in other threads
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    PoTMS Full Member

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    Needs less categories.
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    As a Spurs supporter I feel Lineker is often overlooked as a top player, boy could he score, the old fox in the box etc. He's more known as a pundit rather than the great player he was.
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    Arruda Love is in the air, everywhere I look around

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    Tough one! I think I’d have to say… The Best Of The Beatles
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    MaxiPaxi likes to shove his mum's boiled eggs up his rectum

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    Ill have to do this in the morning :lol:
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    Tommy bigot with fetish for footballers getting fingered

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    Will take me a while to edit this...

    Spoiler tagged for obvious reasons :D

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    Fortitude TV/Monitor Expert

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    :lol:

    I had two hours to kill on the way to the airport. Doing this on a phone helped alleviate my boredom.

    Besides which, I think it does offer a few unique things.

    Just do the bits you want if you don't fancy the whole thing.
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    Keeps It tidy Hates Messi

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    1. Your club. Cristiano Ronaldo Nemanja Vidic Rio Ferdinand

    2. Your country. Christian Pulisic Landon Donovan Clint Dempsey

    3. Your league. (I am choosing PL since I do not watch much MLS) Cristiano Ronaldo Luis Suarez Thierry Henry

    4. Of your lifetime. Lionel Messi Cristiano Ronaldo Xavi

    5. Goalkeepers (domestic) David De Gea Edwin Van Der Sar Petr Cech

    6. Centre back (domestic) John Terry Rio Ferdinand Nemanja Vidic

    7. Left back (domestic) Ashley Cole Patrice Evra Leighton Baines

    8. Right back (domestic) Gary Neville Bacary Sagna Kyle Walker

    9. Defensive midfielders (domestic) Michael Essien Patrick Vieira N'Golo Kante

    10. Two-way midfielders (domestic) Paul Scholes Cesc Fabregas Luka Modric

    11. Left wingers/wing-forwards (domestic) Eden Hazard Gareth Bale Ryan Giggs

    12. Right wingers/wing-forwards Cristiano Ronaldo David Beckham Robert Pires
    (domestic)

    13. Attacking midfielders (domestic) David Silva Steven Gerrard Christian Eriksen

    14. Support/2nd fowards (domestic) Luis Suarez Wayne Rooney Carlos Tevez

    15. Strikers (domestic) Thierry Henry Sergio Aguero Robin Van Persie

    16. Goalkeepers (outright) Manuel Neuer Edwin Van Der Sar Petr Cech

    17. Centre back (outright) John Terry Rio Ferdinand Nemanja Vidic

    18. Left back (outright) Roberto Carlos Marcelo Ashley Cole

    19. Right back (outright) Dani Alves Phillip Lahm Maicon

    20. Defensive midfielders (outright) Andrea Pirlo Sergio Busquets Claude Makelele

    21. Two-way midfielders (outright) Xavi Bastian Schweinsteiger Arturo Vidal

    22. Left wingers/wing-forwards (outright) Cristiano Ronaldo Neymar Franck Ribery

    23. Right wingers/wing-forwards Lionel Messi Arjen Robben Luis Figo
    (outright)

    24. Attacking midfielders (outright) Zinedine Zidane Andres Iniesta Ronaldinho

    25. Support/2nd fowards (outright) Lionel Messi Kaka Francesco Totti

    26. Strikers (outright) Ronaldo Thierry Henry Robert Lewandowski

    Managers

    27. Top 3 managers of your club Alex Ferguson Alex Ferguson Alex Ferguson

    28. Top 3 domestic managers Alex Ferguson Alex Ferguson Alex Ferguson

    29. Top 3 managers outright. Alex Ferguson Pep Guardiola Jose Mourinho

    Games

    30. Top 3 games for your club. 7-1 Roma Home 07 2-0 Roma Away 08 4-0 Milan Home 2010

    31. Top 3 games you've seen. Manchester United Real Madrid 4-3 2003 3-2 Manchester United Milan 2007 Bayern Real Madrid 2-1 2012

    32. The 3 most crushing defeats. 3-0 Milan Away 2007 3-2 Bayern Home 2010 1-0 City Away 2012

    Teams

    33. 3 greatest sides your club has had, by season. I.e 94-95 United etc. 06-07 07-08 08-09

    34. 3 greatest club sides in your league, by season. I.e 94-95 United etc. 04-05 Chelsea 06-07 Manchester United 07-08 Manchester United

    35. 3 greatest club sides (outright) 07-08 Manchester United 10-11 Barcelona 12-13 Bayern

    36. 3 greatest international sides Spain 2008 Spain 2012 Germany 2014

    37. 3 worst sides your club has had, by season I.e '13-'14 United etc. 13-14 14-15 15-16 United

    38. 3 sides who you felt came up short.06-07 Manchester United(in the CL) 11-12 Bayern 13-14 Atletico(in the CL)
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    Eyepopper Lowering the tone since 2006

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    Best 3 players for:

    1. Your club.
    Manchester United: De Gea, Pogba, Lukaku

    2. Your country.
    Norway: Ole Selnæs, Stefan Johansen, Joshua King

    3. Your league.
    Premier League: De Gea, Pogba & Hazard

    4. Of your lifetime.
    Messi, C. Ronaldo & Zidane.

    5. Goalkeepers (Premier League)
    De Gea, Cortouis & Lloris

    6. Centre back (Premier League)
    Bailly, Alderweireld & Vertonghen

    7. Left back (Premier League)
    Alonso, Mendy & Azpilicueta

    8. Right back (Premier League)
    Azpilicueta, Walker & Valencia
    Note: Rate Azpilicueta too high to leave him out of either side, despite him playing CB now.:lol:

    9. Defensive midfielders (Premier League)
    Matic, Wanyama & ... No standout.

    10. Two-way midfielders (Premier League)
    Pogba, Kante, Dembele

    11. Left wingers/wing-forwards (Premier League)
    Hazard & Sanchez +1 out of Sane & Martial
    Note: Sane, Martial or any talent on form really, as there are no other standouts that feels natural on the left-wing for me bar Hazard & Sanchez.

    12. Right wingers/wing-forwards (Premier League)
    Mane, Willian & Pedro

    13. Attacking midfielders (Premier League)
    KdB, D. Silva & C. Eriksen

    14. Support/2nd fowards (Premier League)
    Alli, Coutinho & (cheating to get more top strikers in) Aguero.

    15. Strikers (Premier League)
    Kane, Lukaku & Morata

    16. Goalkeepers (outright)
    De Gea & Neuer
    Note: no clear 3rd, at a push I'd go Cortouis.

    17. Centre back (outright)
    Boateng, Bonucci & T. Silva
    Note: Boateng and Bonucci are my main guys, the 3rd can go to any top defender bar Ramos who i despise.

    18. Left back (outright)
    Marcelo, Alaba & Alex Sandro

    19. Right back (outright)
    Alves & Carvajal.
    Note: No clear 3rd. Semedo, Walker, Valencia, Azpilicueta & probably a ton more can stake a claim for 3rd spot.

    20. Defensive midfielders (outright)
    Kante, Vidal & Verratti
    Note: Cheating as I don't see any of them as DM's, but want them to get on the list

    21. Two-way midfielders (outright)
    Modric, Pjanic & Pogba

    22. Left wingers/wing-forwards (outright)
    C. Ronaldo, Neymar & Hazard

    23. Right wingers/wing-forwards (outright)
    Messi & Sanchez
    Note: No clear 3rd, one of Robben or Bale depending on injuries and form.

    24. Attacking midfielders (outright)
    KdB, Isco, C. Eriksen
    Note: Yes, I actually rate Eriksen that highly, but I feel like I'm missing someone.

    25. Support/2nd fowards (outright)
    Dybala, Griezmann & Suarez(excluding his dip in form)

    26. Strikers (outright)
    Lewandowski+2 of the (ironically many) standouts: Benzema, Morata, Lukaku, Auba, Aguero, Kane etc etc.

    Managers


    27. Top 3 managers of your club
    Ferguson & Mourinho, I refuse to name a 3rd.

    28. Top 3 domestic managers
    Mourinho, Pep & Conte
    I feel unable to be happy with a top 3, as Mourinho & Pep have the best record but both have something to prove, whilst Conte won last season but hasn't got much of a pedigree besides winning the inevitable with Juventus and a good season with Chelsea. I also believe Pochettino is doing well without winning anything with Spurs & that no manager is as good as Wenger has been with financial restrictions (self-implied or otherwise).

    29. Top 3 managers outright.
    Again, I feel it's hard to judge the top managers these days.
    Pep & Mourinho should be there if it wasn't for Pep never having a proper challenge until City and failed last season (but looks good now) & Mourinho doing well until his last Chelsea season and now looking good, Zidane doing fantastic with Real and Conte doing whats expected with Juventus and did very well in his first Chelsea season. On top of that there is Pochettino, Jardim, Ancelotti (despite what people think of him after the Bayern stint) and probably more I've forgotten about... The top dawgs out there don't have enough people standing out as the current top, but just based on history I can go Pep, Mourinho & Ancelotti.

    Games

    30. Top 3 games for your club.
    Bayern final, Chelsea final & the game vs City where Rooney had his overhead kick, if only for that goal alone and how it felt.

    31. Top 3 games you've seen.
    Only seen 2 games live, vs Vålerenga in a practice match some years ago and last years final home-match vs Crystal Palace.

    32. The 3 most crushing defeats.
    The last, the next & the double-final loss to Barcelona...

    Teams
    My memory is too bad for this section in itself...

    33. 3 greatest sides your club has had, by season. I.e 94-95 United etc.
    98-99, 07-08 & 08-09 I think?

    34. 3 greatest club sides in your league, by season. I.e 94-95 United etc.
    Chelsea 04-05, United 07-08, United 08-09.

    35. 3 greatest club sides (outright)
    Barcelona that one year, Bayerns treble under Heynckes & possibly Real Madrid now under Zidane.

    36. 3 greatest international sides
    Rarely follow international football.

    37. 3 worst sides your club has had, by season I.e '13-'14 United etc.
    Moyes-LvG.

    38. 3 sides who you felt came up short.
    Us... Against City when they won on goal-difference.
    Chelsea against us in 2008-09 (i think it was at least)
    Liverpool with slippy.
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    ZIDANE Full Member

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    Ronaldo (Portugal), Messi, Zidane.

    Ronaldo (Brazil) was the best player but I had to take into account the career and achieving potential.

    But I would want to watch Ronaldinho more than anybody.

    And Moyes still misses out!

    United (Treble), Real Madrid CF (Galácticos), Barcelona (Pep/Messi).

    AC Milan nearly made it.

    Brazil, France, Spain. (I can't remember the exact years but it should be pretty obvious).
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    Being a City fan this is all going to be in the last 1/4 of my life.

    Players

    Best 3 players for:

    1. Your club - Aguero, David Silva, Yaya Toure

    2. Your country - Robbie Keane, Damien Duff, Roy Keane

    3. Your league - Seamus Coleman, Wes Hoolahan, Roy Keane

    4. Of your lifetime - Messi and a pair of Ronaldo's.

    5. Goalkeepers (domestic) - Schmichael, Cech, De Gea

    6. Centre back (domestic) - Rio, Kompany, Terry

    7. Left back (domestic) - Cole, Evra, Clichy (Arsenal era..)

    8. Right back (domestic) - Zabaleta (blue tinted glasses), Irwin, Sagna (Arsenal era)

    9. Defensive midfielders (domestic) - Makelele (so good they called a role after him), Mascherano, Roy Keane (not an out and out DM by any stretch but was really good at that part of the games.)

    10. Two-way midfielders (domestic) - Gerrard, Viera, Yaya

    11. Left wingers/wing-forwards (domestic) - Giggs, Ronaldo, Bale

    12. Right wingers/wing-forwards - Robben, Beckham, Kanchelskis
    (domestic)

    13. Attacking midfielders (domestic) - David Silva, Scholes, Lampard

    14. Support/2nd fowards (domestic) - Bergkamp, Rooney, Zola

    15. Strikers (domestic) - Shearer, Aguero, Henry

    16. Goalkeepers (outright) - Buffon, Schmichael, Cech,

    17. Centre back (outright) - Baresi, Nesta, Maldini (bit of a theme there)

    18. Left back (outright) - Maldini, Carlos, Cole

    19. Right back (outright) - Cafu, Alves, Lahm

    20. Defensive midfielders (outright) - Desailly, Rijkaard, De Rossi

    21. Two-way midfielders (outright) - Xavi, Modric, Matthaus

    22. Left wingers/wing-forwards (outright) - Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, Rivaldo

    23. Right wingers/wing-forwards - Messi, Figo, Brian Laudrup
    (outright)

    24. Attacking midfielders (outright) - Marandona, Kaka, Gullit

    25. Support/2nd fowards (outright) - Totti, Del Piero, Micheal Laudrup

    26. Strikers (outright) - Ronaldo9, Romario, Van Basten

    Managers

    27. Top 3 managers of your club - Mancini, Pelligirini, Pep Guardiola

    28. Top 3 domestic managers - Ferguson, Mourinho, Wenger (marginally pips Rafa Benitez)

    29. Top 3 managers outright - Ferguson, Mourinho, Pep

    Games

    30. Top 3 games for your club - City 3-2 QPR (Agueroooooooo), United 1-6 City (it was the moment, I actually felt, "we're finally a top team".), Spurs 3-4 City (3-0 and a man down at half time).

    31. Top 3 games you've seen - Liverpool 4-3 Newcastle, City 3-2 QPR, Newcastle 4-4 Arsenal (Arsenal 4-0 up at HT).

    32. The 3 most crushing defeats - Middlesboro 8-1 Man City (I watched a team stroll around a pro game for 90 minutes laughing as they were getting thrashed, well all bar Richard Dunne), QPR 2-2 Man City (the day I knew we'd be heading for League 1). United 4-3 City - That Michael Owen game...

    Teams

    33. 3 greatest sides your club has had, by season. - Mancini's City, The squad Mancini gave to Pellers, this season.

    34. 3 greatest club sides in your league, by season. Arsenes Invincibles, United 07-09, United 98-99.

    35. 3 greatest club sides (outright)- Barcelona 10-11, Madrid 16-17, United 98-99. Milan unlucky to miss out but they never won the league enough with their greatest teams.

    36. 3 greatest international sides - Spain 08-12, Brazil - 2002, Holland 1990 despite the fact they never won.

    37. 3 worst sides your club has had, by season I.e Oh god, this is impossible there are so many. The League 1 side, Stuart Pearce having to use David James as a striker, the spineless clowns under Sven despite costing a few bob to assemble.

    38. 3 sides who you felt came up short. - City under Pellegrini, Liverpool "this does not slip", Holland 88-90 never quite winning a major competition.

    That took awhile.
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    JohnnyKills Full Member

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    Haha Partridge gold!!
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    Also, can't answer all of those categories but best players I've seen, from the best downwards:

    Messi
    Zidane
    Fat Ronaldo
    Our Ronaldo
    Henry
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    sglowrider Against Oral Equality

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    VeevaVee despite the protests, wears Ugg boots

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    This could've been good if it didn't require a full 8 hour shift to complete.
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    I'm not spending 5 hours doing the rest but here are mine from the last 25 years or so.
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    AdnanRED Banned

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    I will stick to just these.

    1. Your club.
    Cantona, Ronaldo, Scholes, Giggs, DDG

    2. Your country.
    Edin Dzeko, Miralem Pjanic, Hasan Salihamidzic

    3. Your league.
    Henry, Ronaldo, Scholes, Giggs

    4. Of your lifetime.
    Ronaldo (both), Ronaldinho, Messi, Zidane, Maldini
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    No way :lol:

    Okay, fine. In a minute.

    Edit: I'll just cherry pick the interesting ones, you crazy crazy man.
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    whatwha Where's my diarrhea damnit

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    38 fecking categories... :houllier:
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    André Dominguez Full Member

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    This will be painful to read :D
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    Freak Born a freak always a freak.

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    What's wrong with you? Who fecking picks 38 categories?

    I will stick to just these.


    1. Your club.
    Ronaldo, Scholes, Giggs

    3. Your league.
    Henry, Ronaldo, Scholes

    4. Of your lifetime.
    Ronaldinho, Zidane, Ronaldo (fat)

    29. Top 3 managers outright.
    Sir Alex Ferguson, Jose Mourinho, Vincente Del Bosque
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    Decomposing In Paris Full Member

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    Players

    Best 3 players for:

    1. Your club.
    Ronaldo, Giggs, Scholes

    2. Your country.
    Healy, Hughes, Davis

    3. Your league.
    Henry, Ronaldo, Giggs

    4. Of your lifetime.
    Ronaldo, Messi, Ronaldo

    5. Goalkeepers (domestic)
    Schmeichel, De Gea, Cech

    6. Centre back (domestic)
    Vidic, Ferdinand, Stam

    7. Left back (domestic)
    Irwin, Evra, Cole

    8. Right back (domestic)
    Carragher, Ivanovic, Lauren

    9. Defensive midfielders (domestic)
    Viera, Alonso, Mascherano

    10. Two-way midfielders (domestic)
    Scholes, Gerard, Keane

    11. Left wingers/wing-forwards (domestic)
    Giggs, Bale, Hazard

    12. Right wingers/wing-forwards (domestic)
    Beckham, Ronaldo, Ljungberg

    13. Attacking midfielders (domestic)
    Lampard, Giggs, Juninho

    14. Support/2nd fowards (domestic)
    Bergkamp, Cantona, Suarez

    15. Strikers (domestic)
    Henry, Shearer, Drogba

    16. Goalkeepers (outright)
    Buffon

    17. Centre back (outright)
    Nesta

    18. Left back (outright)
    Maldini

    19. Right back (outright)
    Thurman

    20. Defensive midfielders (outright)
    Redondo

    21. Two-way midfielders (outright)
    Scholes

    22. Left wingers/wing-forwards (outright)
    C.Ronaldo

    23. Right wingers/wing-forwards (outright)
    Messi

    24. Attacking midfielders (outright)
    Nedved

    25. Support/2nd fowards (outright)
    Rivaldo

    26. Strikers (outright)
    L.Ronaldo

    Managers

    27. Top 3 managers of your club
    Ferguson, Mourinho, Van Gaal

    28. Top 3 domestic managers
    Ferguson, Mourinho, Guardiola

    29. Top 3 managers outright.
    Ferguson, Cruyff, Lippi

    Games

    30. Top 3 games for your club.
    Juve 3:2
    Arsenal Semi-Final Replay
    Barca 3:3

    Teams

    35. 3 greatest club sides (outright)
    Ajax
    AC Milan
    Real Madrid
    (Although I'd have United there for Romance)

    36. 3 greatest international sides
    Brazil, Germany, Holland
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    Jaybomb Full Member

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    Here's mine.... from when I started watching football.

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    Ever hear of the DPA (Data Protection Act) OP?