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    Cling Bak Hi, I'm Barry Scott

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    International tournaments are, obviously, a cup competition condensed into about 4-5 weeks of the year. The theory is, anyone can win a cup competition as you don't have to play everyone and you could stumble through the knock-outs on penalties.

    There's also a lot of animosity towards internationals and in particularly, friendlies, these days.

    What about a league? Would that reignite the passion?

    England, for example, have played 9 matches in the last 12 months. It would've been 10, but for a postponed match due to riots last year.

    If 10 teams were in a league, it could last two years and allow for home and away games in this time. Using the FIFA rankings, you could have the top 10 in the top division, 11-20 in the second tier and so on. Relegation/promotion for top/bottom two each time.

    Alternatively you could regionalise it and have the continents winners face off, like the Confederations Cup, but I think promotion-relegation across the World would be better.

    Summer tournaments might have to go, or perhaps those could be separate cup competitions worked into the calendar. Meaningless games would be gone, mis-matches in qualifiers would be out of the window and a true test to see who the best international teams are discovered.

    Potential leagues, using today's FIFA rankings:

    Division One
    Spain
    Netherlands
    Germany
    Uruguay
    Brazil
    England
    Portugal
    Argentina
    Italy
    Croatia

    Division Two
    Denmark
    Russia
    Greece
    Chile
    Côte d'Ivoire
    France
    Sweden
    Switzerland
    Republic of Ireland
    Australia

    Division Three
    Bosnia-Herzegovina
    Mexico
    Ghana
    Norway
    Paraguay
    Serbia
    USA
    Slovenia
    Czech Republic
    Korea Republic

    And so on...

    Could it work?
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    Hectic Moderator

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    This is the worst idea ever made.
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    Rado_N Grinner ruined my tagline

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    No.
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    Jacob Full Member

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    He takes something we already hate and make it more onerous.
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    Cling Bak Hi, I'm Barry Scott

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    :lol:

    Fair enough.

    Care to expand?
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    rcoobc Not as crap as eferyone thinks

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    No. What the feck. How about a kind of Davis Cup of Football. You could do it with only 3 games a year.
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    :lol: Agreed.
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    Hectic Moderator

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    Yes, you've made today the worst day of my life.
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    Cling Bak Hi, I'm Barry Scott

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    I get the feeling people are against this not because they love the existing national tournaments, but because they dislike international football altogether. I could be wrong, it's hard to tell without any reasoned responses, but that was kind of the point of the suggestion: to change things.

    I think it would bring some brilliant clashes all over the World and provide a proper competitive edge to all matches.
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    Hectic Moderator

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    It's a part of it I'm sure. I'd be a happier man if international football didn't exist.
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    stubie Full Member

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    There would be no Sepp :(
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    I don't think your league idea will ever work, because other competitions like the World Cup, Euro Cup and Copa America have history and prestige attached to it and will always be more important to every national team, than this one. If it were to happen, I think it would be treated in the same way as the Confederation Cup, Europa League, Carling Cup etc., where some teams care and others don't.

    I think you're right about people hating international football. For me personally, I hate when the Premier League is going full force and then we have to take a week off to watch dull international friendlies/qualifiers, that even the players don't care about.
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    rcoobc Not as crap as eferyone thinks

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    You have 10 teams to a league. A double round robin would be 18 games. Would this replace the existing world cup format? It would have to unless you wanted it to replace club football.

    Anyway Leagues only work if they have a point to the end of them. The Premier League works because of the Champions League spots, American League's work because of the playoffs. When your nation can only reach 3rd what is the point in continuing?

    So you would have to add playoffs. Thats at least a few more games., but it could work.

    Then you are just left with the teams flying around the world all the time. Anyway onto my davis cup idea...
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    rcoobc Not as crap as eferyone thinks

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    [​IMG]

    Replace 3 friendlies in October, November and December every year. If your nation wins they go onto the next round, if not they drop down 1 year. The lowest team would reach the final in 8 straight wins.

    England would be eternally losing in the Quarter Final, then winning its Last 20 and Last 12 match. Note those are terrible names and should be called Round 4-6, but whatever.

    The format I have set out is for 92 teams, but you could expand or contract it to as much as you would like.

    3 games a year. Less pointless than friendlies. A trophy at the end of it, every year. Could be regional (UEFA), world-wide or a world competition at the top, but regional at the bottom.
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    Hectic Moderator

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    Why are you doing this to us rcoobc?
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    How about a super league with all the best club teams and the best international teams? If a player is in both teams he simply plays for the home side.
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    JayWalker Ball Spotter

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    I don't understand squat of that.
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    rcoobc Not as crap as eferyone thinks

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    About 9 months ago I was at a bar with my family. It had wifi and I was browsing the caf on my ipod. I was very bored, and I was thinking about how England never play a major nation in a competitive match at Wembley. They are more often than not in Pool 1, so never play Germany, France etc at their lovely 90,000 seater stadium.

    So I jotted down the numbers for this on a napkin and haven't thought of it since.

    Here is a more UEFA-esque version that works for 56 teams (so 4 would get byes in Round 1).
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    In answer to your question, who knows. Suffer with me.

    Edit - Explanation.

    The idea is simple. Win and move to the right (Quarter Final to Semi Final), lose and move 2 spaces to the left (Quarter Final to Round 4). These would be single knockout games, played in October, November or December.

    Say you are Spain and winning all the time. You win in the December Final at a neutral stadium against Switzerland, and both you and the Swiss fall to next years October Quarter Final. Win in the Quarter and move to the November Semi. Win in that and move to the December Final.

    England however lost in the October Quarter, so fall to the November Round 3. They are now 1 year behind the current campaign, but win and move to Round 4 in December. They win again and move to next years Quarter Final.

    From 2014 onwards there are 18 competitive matches per 2 years giving 6 friendlies, waiting to be corrupted by myself. Come on its better than friendlies!
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    Scrumpet There are no words

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    That napkin could be worth a lot of money someday.
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    I'd happily do away with friendlies for a home nations league spanning two seasons with home and away fixtures. Another country could be invited into it each time aswell to keep it fresh and make it up to 6 nations.
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    rcoobc Not as crap as eferyone thinks

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    I agree.
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    Mexico should be in division 2, not three.

    That's all I'm saying.
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    Crustanoid Full Member

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    A league would just add to the calender

    I'd like to see friendlies scrapped completely, qualifying tournaments downsized and have an international FA cup run over 4 years using 2-3 dates a year.
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    adexkola American Arse

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    Bad idea. Knockout format is always better. 2 teams face off for 90 minutes. If you don't bring it, you go home.
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    RyanGoggs Insists on dating women in public places - for the

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    How about this for an idea. Keep the World Cup, Euros and Qualifying and get rid of the needless friedlies. Replace friendly dates with a winter break. Radical I know...
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    peterstorey Specialist In Failure

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    Get rid of international friendlies. Have a 10-day (3 game) mini-qualifying tournament for Euros and World cup in odd years at the end of the season. No winter break but a much relaxed schedule.
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    the only problem is managers would not know their 'best teams'...the friendlies which we all hate provide an avenue to find the 'best team'.
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    No. We've got enough international football as it is, and I don't think that we really need anymore to be honest.
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    Feck off, the Carling Nations Cup is where its at.
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    Crustanoid Full Member

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    Regional mini leagues of 4-6 teams played out over a couple of years (do away with friendlies) might be ok. You could have Scandinavian league, British and Irish League, Mediterreanean league, Balkan League etc. etc. Winners across the world to go into a knockout comp played over a further two year period, whilst those not involved can arrange friendlies should they wish.
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    Cling Bak Hi, I'm Barry Scott

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    Not if it replaced summer tournaments. You'd have no qualifiers and therefore, the same amount of games as now. Probably less.

    The point to it, or what nations would strive for, would be you are crowned World champions. No debate, you've finished above all of the best in a league format, home and away.

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