I was having a big debate with @Vernon Philander yesterday about this. He casually said Atletico Madrid were a European powerhouse after brushing aside Marseille yesterday to pick up their 3rd Europa in 9 years. I took exception to that, partly because its the Europa Cup for starters. What are your thoughts? A poll would help, I'm just curious as to whether the term " European powerhouse" suits Atletico. There is no fixed definition of what is meant by the term, rather I'm asking if they suit any variation of it. I want to settle this debate once and for all!