Your ideal 11 - 2018/19 and outs (being realistic)

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  1. Apr 22, 2018
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    jesperjaap Full Member

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    Will kick this off:

    Definite outs: Darmian, Blind, Jones, Rojo, Carrick, Fellaini
    Other outs: Shaw (dependant on signing Sessegnon), Mata, Smalling (dependant on CBs signed) Herrera (dependant on CMs signed) Martial (purely as not going to be played up front, not the same on wing, its him OR Rashford for me in the squad). Personally would love to get rid of Lukaku, hate him, never happening though
    (£200m odd raised)

    Ins:
    LB: Sessegnon
    CB: Toby Alderweireld
    CM: Kimmich (also can cover Valencia at RB) or Paredes or Santiago Ascaciba
    CM2: Alan Guimaraes or Ruben Neves
    RW: Dybala or Malcom
    (£300m odd cost)

    11 out 5 in £150m spend

    De Gea

    Valencia Alderweireld Bailly Sessegnon


    Matic

    Kimmich Pogba



    Dybala Sanchez

    Lukaku (have to be realistic, would rather not)


    Second 11

    Romero

    Mensah (though Kimmich cover) Tuanzabe Lindelof Young


    McTominay

    Perreira Guimaraes


    Lingard Angel Gomes

    Rashford

    Also think there are youth players good enough next season to be called up to the squad in cases of an injury crisis.....Laird, Mitchell, RoShaun Williams, Gribbin, Chong and next season maybe even Mason Greenwood
  2. Apr 22, 2018
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    Nickosaur Full Member

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    How is Bayern selling Kimmich 'realistic'?

    edit - and you 'hate' lukaku? this is good stuff
  3. Apr 22, 2018
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    Damien Self-Aware RedCafe Database (and Admin) Staff

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    Wouldn't say us signing Kimmich is realistic to be honest.
  4. Apr 22, 2018
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    An Irish Red Full Member

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    That second eleven is even more unrealistic than the first. It would get relegated.
  5. Apr 22, 2018
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    Jacky Quacky made eight consecutive posts about Fellaini once

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    What is that second team :lol:
  6. Apr 22, 2018
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    abdo99 Full Member City Lover

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    We're not signing Kimmich. And even if we did what's the point of playing him in midfield when we desperately need someone to replace Valencia? Unrealistic 1st and 2nd teams.
  7. Apr 22, 2018
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    Grylte "nothing wrong with some friendly incest, bro"

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    Is Kimmich a midfielder now? Didn't he use to play CB/RB? (Not following the Bundesliga)
    Hating Lukaku... really? :o
  8. Apr 22, 2018
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    MrSingh2002 Full Member

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    De Gea
    Fabinho Bailly Rojo Sandro
    M-Savic
    Matic Pogba
    Sanchez Lukaku Martial

    Romero
    Valencia Jones Smalling Young
    McTominay Fabinho Herrera
    Mata Rashford Lingard

    IN
    Fabinho/RB
    Sandro/LB
    M Savic/CM

    OUT
    Shaw
    Darmian
    Blind
    Carrick
    Fellaini


    Can't be more realistic than that.​
  9. Apr 22, 2018
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    BluesJr Full Member

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    I used to be really into thinking about hypothetical situations like this but I realised that there is little point and actually it just makes you frustrated when the transfer strategy doesn’t align with your own ideas.

    I’ll just go along with the ride and look forward to see how we set up next season.
  10. Apr 22, 2018
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    Wednesday at Stoke Full Member

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    Sanchez Lukaku Griezmann
    Pogba Matic Matuidi
    Bertrand
    Jones Bailly Valencia
    deGea

    Martial Rashford Lingard
    McTominay Herrera Pereira
    Sessegnon Smalling Lindelöf Fosu-Mensah
    J. Pereira

    Additional: Tuanzebe, Young​
  11. Apr 22, 2018
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    Lash Full Member

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    Yeah, you might also want to look up a few of these players.

    Sess is not and will never be, a LB.
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    You can — by moving Sanchez from the right :(
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    Damien Self-Aware RedCafe Database (and Admin) Staff

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    He played there for a few games at the start of the season but is a waste to play him there as he's very much a left winger and has been for most of this year.
  14. Apr 22, 2018
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    MrSingh2002 Full Member

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    He did okay at Barcelona there.
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    He personally dislikes that position (he literally said that a few times), and we've all seen that, despite however well it looks on paper, he takes Martial's role on the pitch.
  16. Apr 22, 2018
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    Samid follows Pogue around, fixing his images

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    First team:
    De Gea
    Carvajal - Umtiti - Alderweireld - Sandro
    Matic
    Verratti - Pogba
    Asensio - Dybala - Alexis​

    Second team:
    Romero
    Valencia - Jones - Bailly - Sessegnon
    Herrera
    Isco - Saul
    Lingard - Lukaku - Martial​

    Reserves: J.Pereira, Rojo, McTominay, Pereira, Rashford

    I reckon this is all we need to challenge for the double next season.

    Get rid: Smalling (£30m), Lindelof (£20m), Shaw (£20m), Blind (£10m), Darmian (£10m), Mata (£15m), Young (£15m), Fellaini (a Wrigley's Extra 3-pack).
  17. Apr 22, 2018
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    deafepl Full Member

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    Out: Shaw 28m (according to reports), Darmin 15m, Blind 20m, Martial 60m, Johnstone 10m and Smalling or Jones 25m. Total outgoing: £158m

    Alderweireld £40m
    Meunier £40m
    Sandro £50m
    Ruben Neves £40m
    Verrati or Kroos £80m
    Bale £60m
    David Neres £25m.

    Total spending incoming: £335m + Outgoing: £158m = £177m spending net.

    De Gea
    Meunier Bailly Alderweirld Sandro
    Kroos/Verrati Matic Pogba
    Bale Lukaku Sanchez


    Bench: Joel Periera, Ruben Neves, David Nerse, Valenica, Herrera, Rashford, Lindelof. ​
  18. Apr 22, 2018
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    _John_Doe_ New Member

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    Ins:

    Aldeweireld = 45 million
    Sandro = 55 million
    Kovacic = 50 million? (No idea what he'd cost tbh)
    Mahrez = 50 million

    Total = 200 million

    Outs:

    Johnstone = 3 million
    Darmian = 15 million
    Jones = 20 million
    Blind = 20 million
    CBJ = 2 million
    Carrick = Retired
    Fellaini = Free
    Mata = 25 million

    Total = 85 million




    First XI (4-3-3)

    De Gea (C)

    Valencia Bailly Aldeweireld Sandro

    Matic

    Kovacic Pogba

    Mahrez Sanchez
    Lukaku

    Second XI (4-3-3)

    Romero

    Young Smalling Rojo Shaw

    McTominay

    Herrera Pereira

    Lingard Martial
    Rashford

    Back ups:

    TFM, Taunzebe, Lindelof, Gomes, Chong
  19. Apr 22, 2018
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    whatwha Sniffs Erricksson’s diarrhea

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    Bale ffs :lol:
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    Ramshock CAF Pilib De Brún Translator

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    You think Bayern would sell Kimmich and you discount our top scorer we spent £75M on and you ask us to be realistic. Top quality stuff!
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    Ramshock CAF Pilib De Brún Translator

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    Nor is not playing Rom
  22. Apr 22, 2018
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    Riz Full Member

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    :lol::lol::lol:

    You’d need almost a billion to sign that lot!
  24. Apr 22, 2018
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    jesperjaap Full Member

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    Maybe Kimmich is unrealistic yes. Hate maybe too stronger phrase, but a player costing £70m or whatever it was with a first touch like his is criminal
  25. Apr 22, 2018
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    Ramshock CAF Pilib De Brún Translator

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    This old chestnut again
  26. Apr 22, 2018
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    jesperjaap Full Member

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    Yes I do agree with this, just a bit of fun
  27. Apr 22, 2018
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    jesperjaap Full Member

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    He used to be, where he started....you could also say the same for Valencia and Young a few years ago
  28. Apr 22, 2018
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    jesperjaap Full Member

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    Serious question, are people generally happy with Lukaku then, do you rate him? I remember when we signed Fellaini I got panned for slating his first touch and passing ability. To me he is the striking equivalent. Of course he should be the top scored playing up front.....£75m for a best of a human being that cant actually hold the ball up and has the first touch of a player several leagues below. With his back to goal he is absolutely abysmal. His work rate and movement around the area is good, he is good in the air and a decent finisher. Personally I would far rather have Martial up front, a fantastic talent who we have wasted on the wing for the majority of his time with us. He has had his problems off the field and consistency wise for us, he is young though. But he is a player I think we will lose and be talking about in a few years of how did we let him get away.
  29. Apr 22, 2018
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    jesperjaap Full Member

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    I wouldnt even consider that an opinion, more like a fact. Come on....... Romelu pinball filpper Lukaku
  30. Apr 22, 2018
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    arnie_ni Full Member

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    You can... start smalling
  31. Apr 22, 2018
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    Crashoutcassius Full Member

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    Only realistic replies lads, like 12 players out and 300m spent
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    RedTillI'mDead A Key Tool

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    I feel the same, waste if time. And even when you get someone you've always like Sanchez it feels at jeopardy for other players, in this case Rashford and Martial.

    And Schweinsteigar signed too late in his career. And Falcao too injured. And Di Maria too much of a pussy.

    So really as you say lets wait and see. The most exciting signings I can remember tend to be those that the least is known about them. I.e. the ones unlikely too ever make these types of posts.
  33. Apr 22, 2018
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    jesperjaap Full Member

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    You know, I am not a Guardiola fan, the thing I do admire about him though is his actions in the transfer market. We have several players we shouldnt have signed and several who just have been here for years and never consistently performed to the level a Manchester United player should. Guardiola taking over City binned so many players that he didnt see fitting what he wanted, or aging players, wholesale changes. We have quite a few players been here for 3/4 years now that havent performed to a credible level for more than a season and half the signing we have made have been moved on as failed since Ferguson left. How many players are genuinely deserving performance wise of being a starting player for our club based over the last 3/4 years...I would struggle to fill the fingers of one hand.
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    ------------------------ROMERO----------------
    CARVAJAL------BAILLY---VARANE-----SANDRO
    --------SAVIC-------LEWIS COOK---POGBA---
    --------GRIEZMAN--DYBALA---ZAHA---------

    INS:
    Carvajal
    Varane
    Sandro
    Savic
    L.Cook
    Griezmann
    Dybala
    Zaha

    OUTS (According to redcafe match day threads):
    Mourinho
    Lukaku
    Pogba
    De Gea
    Martial
    Smalling
    Jones
    Rojo
    Fellaini
    Shaw
    Young
    Valencia
    Herrera
    Mata
    Alexis
  35. Apr 22, 2018
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    abdo99 Full Member City Lover

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    True. But one thing we do know for certain is that we are in the market to sign a replacement for Carrick and also Fellaini if he leaves. Everything else at this point like you said is hypothetical. The positions we need to strengthen are very clear but I suspect it'll be the usual 3 options for each position and Ed will try to get the first option from the list Mourinho will give him.
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    Proper world class full backs and rotation of our current squad will do just fine, assuming everyone can play at their top level.
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    It would need more than a billion actually. Think he is joking (at least I hope so).
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    First 11:
    DDG
    Cedric-Alderweireld-Bailly-Sandro
    Matic
    Verrati-Pogba
    Lemar-Lukaku-Sanchez

    Cedric would be a decent buy from Southampton. Especially due to Glazernomics. He will be cheap. Verrati would be a marquee signing especially with PSG FFP and his recent issues he could be available. If not Kovacic would be a good option. Alex Sandro is definitely needed. Ive seen sessegnon and tierney being named. These are the same people that will slaughter Jose for not playing them when they make mistakes. We aren't going to win a title with an 18 year old LB who looks great going forward and isnt the best defensive LB in the championship. We need a solid experienced guy. Alex Sandro is that guy. Ive gone for Lemar over Dybala purely because signing Sandro takes priority. We wont sign two players from Juventus. Lemar is a solid worker and is a player actually capable of putting in a cross. Left footed, suits Joses style of intricate play and hard work. He hasn't been great this season because he wanted to leave so i reckon he should be available this summer. Thats all.
  39. Apr 23, 2018
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    This is pretty much what I guess will happen. Mourinho’s been true to his word when previously talking about transfer plans. This year, he basically said we need 2 defenders (I assume these are both full backs as we are very well stocked in CD) and 1 midfielder. He also said we will need another midfielder is Fellaini leaves, which I believe is very likely.

    He also says he’s promoting a youth player. He had previously said he would bring back Fosu Mensah, Tuanzebe and Mitchell from their loans. However, they’ve all either underwhelmed or had injury problems. I would say, given the competition in their positions, they will be loaned again. Though perhaps Mitchell will be used as a Tierney makeweight.

    This would mean the signings of Odriozola from Sociedad, Tierney from Celtic, Fred from Shakhtar Donetsk and Ruben Neves from Wolves. Tahith Chong would be the player promoted. I’ve moved Sanchez to the right because I think Mourinho will push Martial up a level in the Summer.

    GK: De Gea, Romero
    RB: Odriozola, Valencia
    LB: Tierney, Young
    CD: Bailly, Jones, Smalling, Rojo, Lindelof
    DM: Matic, Neves, McTominay
    CM: Fred, Herrera
    AM/CM: Pogba, Lingard
    RW/AM: Sanchez, Mata, Chong
    LW: Martial, Pereira
    ST: Lukaku, Rashford

    This looks decent to me. The signings shouldn’t cost more than 150m and that should be supplemented by the departures of Blind, Shaw, Darmian, Fellaini and Carrick (wages) etc.
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    Ins: Thiago (£70m), Alex Sandro (£45m), Alderweireld (£40m), Cancelo/Odriozola (£40m?)
    Total spend: £195m
    Outs: Jones (£30m), Blind (£20m), Valencia (£5m?), Darmian (£10m), Carrick, Fellaini, Shaw (£35m),
    Total sales: £100m

    Net spend: £95m

    ---------------------Martial----Lukaku
    ----------------------------Sanchez
    -------------------Pogba-------------Thiago
    ------------------------------Matic
    ----Sandro---Alderwireld--Bailly--Cancelo
    -----------------------------De Gea

    This formation probably suits our players best and would save us from having to buy a RW. With top class full-backs we could finally make it work. Would also stop Martial and Rashford from worrying about game time at striker.

    That would leave us with a squad like this:

    ST: Lukaku, Martial, Rashford, Sanchez
    SS: Martial, Rashford, Sanchez
    Trequartista: Sanchez, Lingard, Mata
    LW: Martial, Sanchez, Rashford, Chong
    RW: Sanchez, Lingard, Mata, Chong
    CM: Pogba, Thiago, Pereira, Herrera, McTominay
    DM: Matic, Herrera, TFM (maybe)
    LB: Alex Sandro, Young, Mitchell
    RB: Cancelo, TFM, Young
    CB: Alderwireld, Bailly, Smalling, Rojo, Lindelöf
    GK: De Gea, Romero, Pereira
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