Youth, Courage, Success

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  1. Jun 7, 2019
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    Jibbs New Member

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    yes please... bring in that promising youth Mbappe... send the old boys Pogba and De Gea the other way.
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    simonhch Horrible boss

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    Think this nails it. Marketing is all we have at this point. We're like Hooters. Looks good in theory, but it's ultimately an outdated, miserable experience when you visit. At least their wings are good (allegedly).
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    Sandikan aka sex on the beach

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    Right, what do we want...

    We want speed, fitness, and players who can get better.
    Genius.

    Now, let's see about getting them!
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    It sounds like the army recruitment slogan for a third world dictatorship. Having said that, most third world armies probably have a better recruitment record than us in recent years.
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    The Nani Full Member

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    I have sloganitis until we show we actually have a clue what we’re doing.

    It smacks of OGS being exploited.
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    Kemizee New Member

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    As usual, irrelevant cliché nonsense that means nothing or will change the mentality of the turds we call players in out team. Youth, courage, success... Overrated bunch of Youth the likes of who have nothing at all in our youth players of previous eras.

    A team that sits back instead of attacking without retreat is what I could call courage but that is not Man United, at least not this current one.

    Success? Are we keen on that or is increasing the sponsorship portfolio no longer the priority?
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    LawCharltonBest Enjoys watching fox porn

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    I agree with targeting young. But only if they have potential to be genuinely World Class. Not just the potential to be worth more in 4 years.

    We need to be looking for the next Hazard, Suarez, Rooney, Kompany

    Not more Smallings who were never going to reach that level
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    Why put a left winger on the right? What's wrong with a left footer on the left and right footer on the right? Seems to work well for Pep (Sane plays on the left and Sturridge on the right when those two start) and it used to work well for us...
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    dove Full Member

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    We became Liverpool of 2011/2012.
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    Youth, not youth, we should know by now they all can be risky and got their pros and cons.

    For me what we need is consistency first. Second comes technique, ability, energy, hunger and being fit.

    I don't care what age. If the player has that, I'm on that.
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    wings are really nice
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    Camilo Full Member

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    What a load of shite.
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    City use cut-back system with classic wingers, on the left flank, they need to use left foot to make a cutback and on the other side, they use right foot. The most club doesn't play classic winger like City on both flanks. When City don't need cut-back system, they use Mahrez on right with Sterling on left with fullback bombing as 3-4-3
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    This is what United stands for. Now to show it on the pitch!
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    Big Ben Foster Correctly predicted Portugal to win Euro 2016

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    Their wings are legitimately delicious.
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    Keeps It tidy Hates Messi

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    They are average. The average bar in NYC has comparable wings.
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    devilish Juventus fan who used to support United

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    Meanwhile Mata has been offered Man Utd deal
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    Forever faster :devil:
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    As hand to the Queen.
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    If this is a slogan just for marketing, the outcome will be disaster. If, however, the intent is honest and target players are well evaluated, we can build a strong team within next couple of years. Some experiience is definitely needed but
    Youth. Courage. Success > Failed.Lazy.Prima Donnas.
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    devilish Juventus fan who used to support United

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    :lol:
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    However they have their most success with Sane and Sterling. And when those two play they are on their natural wings. I would absolutely love if we did that. We play too narrow. Playing on your natural wing keeps you playing wider. Also, when you take your man outside if you get tackled the ball will typically go out for a throw or corner. When you are on your oppisite wing and cut in, if you get tackled the ball will typically go back up the field. We need to start playing simple. Wingers should be there to set up goals first and that happens from taking it wide and trying to get to the byline for a cut back or cross...
  23. Jun 11, 2019 at 15:08

    BringKlebersonBack New Member

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    Marketing slogans, cringeworthy “feel-good” sayings, pr corporate speak...

    I remember when we used to let our trophy cabinet do the talking. The last few years, you’d get more conversation out of a corpse.
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    KirkDuyt Full Member

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    I love a good slogan

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    JJ12 Correctly predicted Portugal to win Euro 2016

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    So many whinging fecks on here - will moan no matter what direction we go in.

    Probably better suited supporting City, PSG or Real lads.
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    Well DUHH its the adult Disneyland as Woody pitched to Klopp! :lol:
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    Slogans are great when they can be seen to have an impact.

    I took my Grandson to his first Wembley final when he was 10 years old, it was our League Cup win over Spurs (Ext-time+Pens) 2009/10. He was astounded when before the game the Spurs fans were waving the flags placed on their seats and it was all quiet from United fans, but then as the teams walked out, the United end erupted everyone stood up holding a banner saying simple 'BELIEVE'! the noise at the Spurs end dropped significantly and so did my Grandsons jaw!

    He's never forgot that moment and never will, that's the impact of a slogan delivered as and when!
  28. Jun 13, 2019 at 19:09

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    That was maybe the way 30 years ago. Last 10-15 years in PL rules are( Leicester was anomaly);
    World class manager + (world) class players = success.
    Buying players under the radar with hope that they will be new stars= 5th-10th place.

    And there is no if or maybe or this or that; this is just reality( not just in PL). In PL you are fighting against best teams in Europe which are loaded with quality. Here, you must even for top 6 have high class team. The fact that you are Manchester United will not change things. In the end, it is all about how good are players and how good is manager. People here are hit with some national or local pride, nostalgia or something like that and because of that they can't see the truth. What do you think that we are the first club who got brilliant transfer idea to buy young, domestic players under the radar? While we will buy James who will maybe one day become high class player, City or Liverpool or Chelsea( ok, not this year:lol:) will buy player who is already high class now. They will replace first team player with another first team level player while we will say "give McT a chance" or buy "Rice or Longstaff".
    It is just not how football works. You can and you must add unproven, young players but it is a process. You must do it slowly.

    To be clear here, i had privilege to support this club during golden 90's and 00's so now i can live without titles and just enjoy in football. But if all this about our transfer policy is true than i am afraid that we will drop too deep and then it will be hard to go up again.