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Just finished Name of the Wind and downloaded the Wise Man's Fear immediately after. I'm not quite sure what to compare it to. It's great though. The writing is very good, too.
 

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Just finished Name of the Wind and downloaded the Wise Man's Fear immediately after. I'm not quite sure what to compare it to. It's great though. The writing is very good, too.
yeahhhh boi.

It's quality isn't it.. when you've finished Wise Man's Fear go and read our spoilers earlier in the thread :)
 

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This is my favorite genre for books and movies. I've read so many fantasy novels I've lost count. My favorite ones thus far has to be Song of Ice and Fire, Lord of the Rings Trilogy and The inheritance Series by Christopher Paolini.
I've read Mortal Instruments, Infernal Devices, The vampire chronicles etc..lots and lots.
 

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Some great series mentioned already, I have Wheel of Time on my to read list and I am about to read the Malazan Book of the Fallen series if I can find a definitive reading order for it, have been doing some searching on Google and its doing my head in as there seems to be quite a debate on what the proper order should be.
You have the Erikson books:

Gardens of the Moon
Deadhouse Gates
Memories of Ice
House of Chains
Midnight Tides
The Bonehunters
Reaper's Gale
Toll the Hounds
Dust of Dreams
The Crippled God


Esslemont's efforts:

Night of Knives
Return of the Crimson Guard
Stonewielder
Orb, Septre, Throne
Blood and Bone


Night of Knives is a prequel and should be read either to start the whole thing or at least before The Bonehunters.

Return of the Crimson Guard I'm about to start having just finished Reaper's Gale. They happen at roughly the same time.

Stonewielder and OST are supposed to be read after Toll the Hounds but before Dust of Dreams.

Blood and Bone is the final book in the series.
 

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Finished Wise Man's Fear. The parts with Felurian dragged a bit, but I enjoyed it a lot. I hope that the third day "pays for all" as Kvothe says.
 

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We can discuss anything you want here, I don't think that I am going to make a re-read. At-least not for a long time.

Auri being princess Aries? It could be, after all Kvothe has to rescue a princess and he didn't, so we'll see. Auri also knows about Amyr, it will be very interesting to see how she knows about it. Same about Alveron, but at-least there it could be as he said, he studied them. But Auri is more mysterious.

Did Felurian said that Amyr were before the humans (or it is my imagination)?

Cthaeh was magnificient. Could it be that it was the God Kvothe referred that he had talked to. Will Kvothe, Bast and the chronicle be in danger because he has talk with Cthaeh while the other two knows about it.

Master Ash must be someone important. In the chapter when Kvothe kills the dragon, I think that they mentioned the damage by it with 'ash and cinder' words. It's not much but I doubt it was a coincidence. Cinder should be a strong favorite with it, but also Bredon could be.

Ben, I have forgotten about him. I think that Kvothe said that they won't see for a long time, not forever. He should play a part in the next book.

The death door theory, interesting. Haven't read about it before.

Ambrose. Is he the king Kvothe will kill? Or perhaps kill another king which then will be succeeded by Ambrose which would be even worse. Kvothe starting a war and ruining the world, how.

Chandrian! They are alive in the moment Kvothe and Chronicle are writing his story. There must be a final confrontation after. Cvaeth said that it was twice in a lifetime chance to meet Cinder. Was he refereeing the previous meting or is he implying that they'll meet again.

And finally, after why Kvothe sucks mystery the other part I want to know most is how his relation with Denna will conclude. They weren't in the best terms in the end. One of my thoughts was that he was somehow let down (betrayed) by her so from pain he decided to completely change. I have seen a lot of people hate her, but for me their relationship is the best part of the books. Did you noticed how many times they spoke in rhymes?

Theories about Denna. I was talking to my friend who recommended the books to me.
-He thinks that there's a chance that Denna has some association with or is one of the Chandrian. She's keeping an eye on and some control over Kvothe. She's constantly changing her name, is able to enthrall almost every man she meets, and knows more than she probably should since she's relatively "uneducated."

-I think that she could end up dying at the hands of Cinder or Haliax at some point, or Kvothe maybe have to kill her for some Chandrian-related reason. Either way, she dies. Kvothe goes into a similar mental state to the one after his parents were killed, changes his name to Kote and opens the Inn. Ultimately, Bast is trying to revive Kvothe from Kote (changing his name is a bad sign, and Kvothe needs to be Kvothe rather than Kote) because the world is going to hell in a hand basket, likely the work of the Chandrian. To save all, Bast needs Kvothe to help fight them.
 

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Theories about Denna. I was talking to my friend who recommended the books to me.
-He thinks that there's a chance that Denna has some association with or is one of the Chandrian. She's keeping an eye on and some control over Kvothe. She's constantly changing her name, is able to enthrall almost every man she meets, and knows more than she probably should since she's relatively "uneducated."

-I think that she could end up dying at the hands of Cinder or Haliax at some point, or Kvothe maybe have to kill her for some Chandrian-related reason. Either way, she dies. Kvothe goes into a similar mental state to the one after his parents were killed, changes his name to Kote and opens the Inn. Ultimately, Bast is trying to revive Kvothe from Kote (changing his name is a bad sign, and Kvothe needs to be Kvothe rather than Kote) because the world is going to hell in a hand basket, likely the work of the Chandrian. To save all, Bast needs Kvothe to help fight them.

Oh feck, I would really be depressed if Denna dies (especially if she's killed by Kvothe). As I have said many times in this thread (and regardless that a lot of people hate her) I found that the best parts of the books are with her. Anyway it could be that she dies and that is the reason why Kvothe now sucks. It should have been something big in order for him to lose his powers, and Denna is the most important person in his life, so her death would explain it.

I agree that she has some links with Chandrian and my bet is that Master Ash is in fact Cinder, with the possibility of being three in one (Cinder = Master Ash = Bredon).
 

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I finished The Night Angel trilogy a while back, The Way of Shadows in particular is a great read. It's not flawless, the magic system supports the plot but it's limitations aren't properly explained - at times I felt like the author struggled for an answer to a certain plot element and chose to answer it with 'magic'. This was a rare occurrence, not enough to lessen the enjoyability of the book, but when post-reviewing I couldn't ignore it. The world building isn't quite as consistent or detailed as other books, but it's more than good enough.

There's a lot going in, nothing on SOIAF but enough for sure - and for those of you who enjoy politics in your Fantasy, this doesn't disappoint. I'd have to say it's very consistent, it's pretty much enjoyable for the whole story. I didn't notice a part which felt struggling for pace, dragging along while the author searched for some inspiration and not just page filling (Wise Man's Fear) but it also didn't hit incredible heights of storytelling unfortunately. 8/10.

Now, Mistborn series - wow. Objectively, it's fecking fantastic - he hits plenty of the notes that Tolkien set himself, and manages to out-shine him in other areas. The world building is beyond incredible, and the magical system is as thought out (in both it's potential and it's boundaries) than never before. It's a fantasy story about true heroes, real moments of glory, epic scenes of battle with unique combat. The characters have their flaws, but they're incredibly interesting and the dialogue between them is superb.
I fecking loved it, it's perhaps the best fantasy series I have ever read. Is it my favourite? Not sure about that, we'll have to wait for the 3rd installment in Kingkiller - objectively it probably has less flaws and gets more things right, however; although the characters are great, there's no Kvothe. 10/10. Seriously, read this book.

Now, I've read the first two a SOIAF... I stand by everything I said, but I'm willing to give it another chance. I'm gonna re-read 1&2, and I'm hoping that now I know what to expect (not much fantasy elements, ie. magic!!) then I'll be forgiving of that and let myself get caught in the politics and drama of the characters.
 

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I didn't enjoy the Night Angel trilogy. Just couldn't get into it. It was okay, but there are better series out there. Everyone I know who reads fantasy has been telling me to read Name of the Wind so I might start that during the holidays. And I might check out Mistborn too based on your recommendation.

Currently reading Dan Brown's Inferno and I'm planning on rereading ASOIAF. Never get sick of reading it because I'm still discovering little bits of foreshadowing that I didn't pick up on before.
 

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I didn't enjoy the Night Angel trilogy. Just couldn't get into it. It was okay, but there are better series out there. Everyone I know who reads fantasy has been telling me to read Name of the Wind so I might start that during the holidays. And I might check out Mistborn too based on your recommendation.

Currently reading Dan Brown's Inferno and I'm planning on rereading ASOIAF. Never get sick of reading it because I'm still discovering little bits of foreshadowing that I didn't pick up on before.
There's definitely better books than Night Angel objectively, but as a series - I found it really enjoyable. Other book series might have stronger books, but alot of them tend to struggle after a while and produce poor additions to the series which brings the whole series down. I would say that I look favourably on Night Angel for being 3 books (I use to think that trilogies were long).

Name of The Wind is so brilliant. The main character, Kvothe, is awesome. He has his flaws, mostly his arrogance, but he often loses out because of it. He is brilliant in so many ways, but that doesn't stop him taking hit after hit.

Kingkiller: Name of The Wind
"I have stolen princesses back form sleeping barrow kings. I have burned down the town of Trebon. I have spent the night with Felurian and left with both my sanity and my life. I was expelled from the university at a younger age than most people are allowed in. I tread paths by moonlight that others fear to speak of during the day. I have talked to gods, loved women, and written songs that make the minstrels weep. my name is Kvothe. You may have heard of me"
Mistborn: The Final Empire
A thousand years ago evil came to the land. A dark lord rules through the aristocratic families and ordinary folk labor as slaves in volcanic ash fields. A troublemaker arrives. A rumored revolt depends on an untrustworthy criminal and a young girl who must master Allomancy, metal magic.
I recommend both so highly.
 

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Anyway, I read the first two - and they're good, but not great. I thought it was very cliche, typical Medieval England style setting. The lack of magic or real fantasy annoyed me, and yet the parts I found most boring about the book were at 'The Wall' and the Supernatural things that lie behind the wall.
Some characters I really liked. Arya, Ned and Tyrion I enjoyed reading, but whenever I got to Sansa, Catelyn, Theon or Bran; I just wanted to put the book down. It was frustrating. The politics seemed well written, and I thought it was interesting to get the different view points of events from different angles - but sometimes it was coming from angles I couldn't give a shit about.
Mostly, my main issue was always the lack of fantasy. I want magic!
I get what you mean by lack of fantasy, but it is a fantasy even without all the magical elements. Maybe it should be put under a genre of its own.

I've heard a lot about the Dresden Files also, is that series any good? You mentioned it in the same breath as Harry Potter, are they similar?
 

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I get what you mean by lack of fantasy, but it is a fantasy even without all the magical elements. Maybe it should be put under a genre of its own.

I've heard a lot about the Dresden Files also, is that series any good? You mentioned it in the same breath as Harry Potter, are they similar?
Obviously, it doesn't have to be all spells and magic to be fantasy.

It's just, it just feels like a medieval story - even the superstitions and supernatural shit that occasionally pops up don't feel out of place with that. Because the story is being told through the characters, the walkers and what not would completely fit in with that.

For me, world building isn't just about the land, the environment, the locations etc. That's all done incredibly well in SOIAF; but it's also about building the laws of the land, a fantasy system somewhat - that's ignored. You could say that it's replaced with a wonderful policital system, which is build incredibly well - full of hierarchys, corruption, back story. That would be a completely fair argument, and while I appreciate it, it just doesn't replace the job of having a great fantasy world with an engaging and well thought-out fantasy system.

Like I said though, I'm prepared to give it another go. I love the TV series, and the books are incredibly well written - I guess I went into it wanting more and more magic and felt underwhelmed. Perhaps I'll appreciate it's strong points more on a re-run.

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Dresden Files is completely different to Harry Potter.

It's a fun read, the books are fairly short in comparison to most fantasies, although the series is hitting 13/14 books now so it's still a big commitment. It's not an epic fantasy, it's an urban fantasy set in the modern day, about a private investigator who is also a wizard. He's a brilliant character; full of humour, engaging 1st person narration and he's very relatable.

I recommend them if you're looking for a fun, 'easier' read than your more classic fantasies.


Here's a trailer for the TV show, which only managed 1 season unfortunately - it's actually pretty good.
 

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Obviously, it doesn't have to be all spells and magic to be fantasy.

It's just, it just feels like a medieval story - even the superstitions and supernatural shit that occasionally pops up don't feel out of place with that. Because the story is being told through the characters, the walkers and what not would completely fit in with that.

For me, world building isn't just about the land, the environment, the locations etc. That's all done incredibly well in SOIAF; but it's also about building the laws of the land, a fantasy system somewhat - that's ignored. You could say that it's replaced with a wonderful policital system, which is build incredibly well - full of hierarchys, corruption, back story. That would be a completely fair argument, and while I appreciate it, it just doesn't replace the job of having a great fantasy world with an engaging and well thought-out fantasy system.

Like I said though, I'm prepared to give it another go. I love the TV series, and the books are incredibly well written - I guess I went into it wanting more and more magic and felt underwhelmed. Perhaps I'll appreciate it's strong points more on a re-run.
I understand exactly what you mean, but the hidden aspect of the fantasy side of things makes it all the more engaging for me, keeps me wondering and I think makes the experience a lot better. But of course that is just down to personal preference. It does feel like a medieval story more than an actual fantasy, but I'm sure that's exactly what it's meant to feel like, and again I enjoy that. The hype is mostly down to the TV show obviously - it's fantastic (no pun intended).

So, in the Dresden Files is there a good magic-system in place, are there any politics in it, like a magicians code and wizard rulers etc.,?

Also, if you don't mind me asking, like most of us fantasy enthusiasts, do you write fantasy of your own, even if it's just for fun? I do, I love the world-building aspect, it just sucks that I'm not all that good at writing.
 

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I understand exactly what you mean, but the hidden aspect of the fantasy side of things makes it all the more engaging for me, keeps me wondering and I think makes the experience a lot better. But of course that is just down to personal preference. It does feel like a medieval story more than an actual fantasy, but I'm sure that's exactly what it's meant to feel like, and again I enjoy that. The hype is mostly down to the TV show obviously - it's fantastic (no pun intended).

So, in the Dresden Files is there a good magic-system in place, are there any politics in it, like a magicians code and wizard rulers etc.,?

Also, if you don't mind me asking, like most of us fantasy enthusiasts, do you write fantasy of your own, even if it's just for fun? I do, I love the world-building aspect, it just sucks that I'm not all that good at writing.
Yeah. Though I'm not sure I'd say it was particularly, but it's interesting and fun for sure.

Each species has it's own rules to follow set by a council they must answer to; I wouldn't say that the systems are incredibly deep though, but I don't think it tries to be. I guess it's somewhat more forgiving as it's meant to be a lightly taken urban fantasy, rather than an epic fantasy set in a different world.

I'd say it's the Buffy the Vampire of books. Fun, flawed, somewhat funny, somewhat predictable. Nothing special, but it's a nice series to have in-between the 'real' stuff.

Yeah, I write. Well, I try to write. I'm pretty useless, but it's all in the fun of it. I must say, I was heavily influenced by Game of Thrones funnily enough, considering my criticism. Although some of the characters bore and frustrate me enough to feel like reading them is a chore, there are a number of characters I really enjoy reading from. I particularly love the aspect of having contrasting versions of events, with different agendas playing a part in how things are viewed. I've tried to somewhat replicate this, but only one of my points of view is from a first-person character perspective. The rest comes through other means.

I was talking to KingEric7 earlier in the week - there's a game coming out called Project Spark which has a ton of tools you can create stuff with. I'm planning on creating a game that is supported by a written work. Of course, it'll go no further than me, perhaps some friends - but I'm really looking forward to getting some of my ideas in a game aswel as on paper. Mixing the two together has really motivated me to come up with some new fantasy ideas, and I'm constantly dwelling on what I could do with the two together.
 

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Yeah. Though I'm not sure I'd say it was particularly, but it's interesting and fun for sure.

Each species has it's own rules to follow set by a council they must answer to; I wouldn't say that the systems are incredibly deep though, but I don't think it tries to be. I guess it's somewhat more forgiving as it's meant to be a lightly taken urban fantasy, rather than an epic fantasy set in a different world.

I'd say it's the Buffy the Vampire of books. Fun, flawed, somewhat funny, somewhat predictable. Nothing special, but it's a nice series to have in-between the 'real' stuff.

Yeah, I write. Well, I try to write. I'm pretty useless, but it's all in the fun of it. I must say, I was heavily influenced by Game of Thrones funnily enough, considering my criticism. Although some of the characters bore and frustrate me enough to feel like reading them is a chore, there are a number of characters I really enjoy reading from. I particularly love the aspect of having contrasting versions of events, with different agendas playing a part in how things are viewed. I've tried to somewhat replicate this, but only one of my points of view is from a first-person character perspective. The rest comes through other means.

I was talking to KingEric7 earlier in the week - there's a game coming out called Project Spark which has a ton of tools you can create stuff with. I'm planning on creating a game that is supported by a written work. Of course, it'll go no further than me, perhaps some friends - but I'm really looking forward to getting some of my ideas in a game aswel as on paper. Mixing the two together has really motivated me to come up with some new fantasy ideas, and I'm constantly dwelling on what I could do with the two together.
I'm not sure the Dresden Files are really for me, but as always you never know till you give it a try.

I've heard about this project spark, it's for the Xbox right?
 

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I'm not sure the Dresden Files are really for me, but as always you never know till you give it a try.

I've heard about this project spark, it's for the Xbox right?
Windows 8, Xbox One and Xbox 360. You're able to act out animations infront of the Kinect and have it record your voice too, then apply it to an asset (character, object) in the game. I'll probably do a Lord of The Rings tribute and have a shit load of fun trying to re-enact Gollum.

Yeah, that's completely fair enough. There's plenty of fantasy reads I'd recommend over it.

Have you read Name of the Wind? My favourite book.
 

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Windows 8, Xbox One and Xbox 360. You're able to act out animations infront of the Kinect and have it record your voice too, then apply it to an asset (character, object) in the game. I'll probably do a Lord of The Rings tribute and have a shit load of fun trying to re-enact Gollum.

Yeah, that's completely fair enough. There's plenty of fantasy reads I'd recommend over it.

Have you read Name of the Wind? My favourite book.
With Kvothe? Yes I know of it and I started reading it at one point and it was awesome but I abruptly stopped for some reason, I think I might have picked up something else and then forgot to return to it, you reminded me of it in the op actually. Thanks!
 

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I didn't enjoy the Night Angel trilogy. Just couldn't get into it. It was okay, but there are better series out there. Everyone I know who reads fantasy has been telling me to read Name of the Wind so I might start that during the holidays. And I might check out Mistborn too based on your recommendation.

Currently reading Dan Brown's Inferno and I'm planning on rereading ASOIAF. Never get sick of reading it because I'm still discovering little bits of foreshadowing that I didn't pick up on before.
The weakest book from Brown. Either that or I am getting tired from the same thing all over again. He is to noveks what Call of Duty is to video games, only recycling the same stuff. I enjoyed his first four novels, but not ay all the last two and likely I am done with him.

Currently rereading ASOIAF. Finished A game of thrones yesterday and will start A clash of kings tomorrow. It took me two weeks to read the first book, around twice as the first time. Absolutely fantastic novels and I don't think that yoy can find something similar to them. The first three books are masterpieces and I am loving them, despite is the second reading.

You can't go wrong with The Name of The Wind. It isn't as good ad ASOIAF, but still it is fantastic. Kvothe is a terrific protagonist and his love interest is amazing too. I loved it and while it's sequel isn't that great, it is still very good. I read both of them combined in 6 days which speaks for itself. You cannot stop reading them when you start.
 

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With Kvothe? Yes I know of it and I started reading it at one point and it was awesome but I abruptly stopped for some reason, I think I might have picked up something else and then forgot to return to it, you reminded me of it in the op actually. Thanks!
It really is brilliant.

The weakest book from Brown. Either that or I am getting tired from the same thing all over again. He is to noveks what Call of Duty is to video games, only recycling the same stuff. I enjoyed his first four novels, but not ay all the last two and likely I am done with him.

Currently rereading ASOIAF. Finished A game of thrones yesterday and will start A clash of kings tomorrow. It took me two weeks to read the first book, around twice as the first time. Absolutely fantastic novels and I don't think that yoy can find something similar to them. The first three books are masterpieces and I am loving them, despite is the second reading.

You can't go wrong with The Name of The Wind. It isn't as good ad ASOIAF, but still it is fantastic. Kvothe is a terrific protagonist and his love interest is amazing too. I loved it and while it's sequel isn't that great, it is still very good. I read both of them combined in 6 days which speaks for itself. You cannot stop reading them when you start.
Yeah, I was a big fan of Dan Brown books at high school. I'm not quite sure if his books have gone shittier with each one, or if I am just more accustomed to good books than I use to be, and more critical of flaws and generally shit writing as I get older.

I know the feeling.. there are books that I can read over and over. It annoys me, because there are so many book series I would love to try, or new authors I want to give a chance; but I constantly return to my favourites instead of trying something new. With each new author I appreciate reading different writing styles more and more though, and now with Brandon Sanderson added to my list of authors I know to trust then perhaps I'll be more receptive in the future to recommendations.

I'd ask what you love about SOIAF so much, but I already know why most people love it. And since you're in awe of the Denna-Kvothe relationship, I can safely assume that you are also massively impressed by not only the vast world, but the vast amount of characters which are incredibly deep yet consistent.
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For those of you who have read Mistborn, have you read any other Sanderson books? I know he's highly regarded by a lot of Wheel of Time fans since he has finished the last 3 books due to Robert Jordans death. He has some other series I'm interested in though - Elantris and Warbreaker which are both critically acclaimed. They both sound really interesting, but I can't help but be more intrigued with 2 of his more recent books.

Steelheart, the first of the Reckoners series. It's about a group (the Reckoners) who assassinate 'epics' who are essentially ruling the world with supernatural powers in some fantasy world. It feels like a fantasy spin on the superhero genre, but with the focus on the ordinary who are trying to rid the world of the evil supernatural powers. I'm interested to find out what the supernatural powers are, the limitations to the powers and the weaknesses that come with them - something which Sanderson excelled at in Mistborn.

The Way of Kings, the first in the Stormlight Archive is a standard epic fantasy. After reading Mistborn, I'm more than reading to jump into another Sanderson world full of great battles.

Anybody read these or his other weeks? I can't decide which to jump into, and I'm concerned that I'll waste time picking between them.
 

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Oh wow, there's a follow up to the Mistborn trilogy. Alloys of Law, a sequel set 300 years later.

Let's do this.
 

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For those of you who have read Mistborn, have you read any other Sanderson books? I know he's highly regarded by a lot of Wheel of Time fans since he has finished the last 3 books due to Robert Jordans death. He has some other series I'm interested in though - Elantris and Warbreaker which are both critically acclaimed. They both sound really interesting, but I can't help but be more intrigued with 2 of his more recent books.

Steelheart, the first of the Reckoners series. It's about a group (the Reckoners) who assassinate 'epics' who are essentially ruling the world with supernatural powers in some fantasy world. It feels like a fantasy spin on the superhero genre, but with the focus on the ordinary who are trying to rid the world of the evil supernatural powers. I'm interested to find out what the supernatural powers are, the limitations to the powers and the weaknesses that come with them - something which Sanderson excelled at in Mistborn.

The Way of Kings, the first in the Stormlight Archive is a standard epic fantasy. After reading Mistborn, I'm more than reading to jump into another Sanderson world full of great battles.

Anybody read these or his other weeks? I can't decide which to jump into, and I'm concerned that I'll waste time picking between them.
I've liked basically all his stuff so far. Though only part way through the new Steelheart book (liked it so far, though don't think it will reach mistborn levels at this point but that could change as I get further into it) and haven't read book to of the stormlight archive yet.

I'd probably start with the Alloy of Law as it is a stand alone and then just grab whichever series grabs your fancy. Stormlight at this point is far larger, but is meant to be a massive series of books (10 last I heard), so there is more to read but probably a much longer wait before you get the third book released. No idea how many books are meant to be in the steelheart series, though I doubt it will be as large.
 

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The weakest book from Brown. Either that or I am getting tired from the same thing all over again. He is to noveks what Call of Duty is to video games, only recycling the same stuff. I enjoyed his first four novels, but not ay all the last two and likely I am done with him.
Dan Brown rule #1: Female character is always attractive.
 

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It really is brilliant.



Yeah, I was a big fan of Dan Brown books at high school. I'm not quite sure if his books have gone shittier with each one, or if I am just more accustomed to good books than I use to be, and more critical of flaws and generally shit writing as I get older.

I know the feeling.. there are books that I can read over and over. It annoys me, because there are so many book series I would love to try, or new authors I want to give a chance; but I constantly return to my favourites instead of trying something new. With each new author I appreciate reading different writing styles more and more though, and now with Brandon Sanderson added to my list of authors I know to trust then perhaps I'll be more receptive in the future to recommendations.

I'd ask what you love about SOIAF so much, but I already know why most people love it. And since you're in awe of the Denna-Kvothe relationship, I can safely assume that you are also massively impressed by not only the vast world, but the vast amount of characters which are incredibly deep yet consistent.
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For those of you who have read Mistborn, have you read any other Sanderson books? I know he's highly regarded by a lot of Wheel of Time fans since he has finished the last 3 books due to Robert Jordans death. He has some other series I'm interested in though - Elantris and Warbreaker which are both critically acclaimed. They both sound really interesting, but I can't help but be more intrigued with 2 of his more recent books.

Steelheart, the first of the Reckoners series. It's about a group (the Reckoners) who assassinate 'epics' who are essentially ruling the world with supernatural powers in some fantasy world. It feels like a fantasy spin on the superhero genre, but with the focus on the ordinary who are trying to rid the world of the evil supernatural powers. I'm interested to find out what the supernatural powers are, the limitations to the powers and the weaknesses that come with them - something which Sanderson excelled at in Mistborn.

The Way of Kings, the first in the Stormlight Archive is a standard epic fantasy. After reading Mistborn, I'm more than reading to jump into another Sanderson world full of great battles.

Anybody read these or his other weeks? I can't decide which to jump into, and I'm concerned that I'll waste time picking between them.
Agree about Brown. I don't think that the books from him now are worse, just that I don't like them anymore cause they are the same. Loved him at high school but now I don't enjoy his books.

The main reason why I love ASOIAF so much is it's depth. While I agree that Kingkiller chronicles have much depth and even other characters except big two are complex, ASOIAF is on an another level. Even 'minor' characters like Varys, Littlefinger are so complex and so well written. Add to that, there are probably ten times more characters than in Kingkiller. The other big reason is that the book is completely gray, there aren't goods and evils or anything like that. The honorable doesn't win despite they are on the right but are stupid (first and third book). The other important thing is that The Game of Thrones which in thw beginning looka to be the main topic of the books, in fact seems to be only a propierty of much bigger things. And finally if you think that Kingkiller is good at hidden things (Princess Auri, Master Ash), believe me ASOIAF is even better.

Agree with you that the book has a lack of magic. But that's the point of it, the world of it is a world where magic is a shadow of former self, but with dragons reborning and The Others awakening, the magic is returning too. Saying that, I am not a big fan of magic anyway so the perceived lack of it didn't bother me at all. Alsp I am a sucker to gray and sad/bittersweet stories so these books are really for me.
 

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For those of you who have read Mistborn, have you read any other Sanderson books? I know he's highly regarded by a lot of Wheel of Time fans since he has finished the last 3 books due to Robert Jordans death. He has some other series I'm interested in though - Elantris and Warbreaker which are both critically acclaimed. They both sound really interesting, but I can't help but be more intrigued with 2 of his more recent books.


Anybody read these or his other weeks? I can't decide which to jump into, and I'm concerned that I'll waste time picking between them.
I have read nearly all of his books that are easily available (considering that Goodreads list some of his books that seemed to have a limited audience). But not his WoT books.

So far, I still like better Mistborn. The other are good readings but didn't feel as awesome as Mistborn.

Steelheart is a YA novel so it isn't as intricate as Mistborn but reminded me a lot of Mistborn. It's a good book though I wishes it wasn't so Mistborn-like and I am not much a fan of superheroes.

On the other hand, I enjoyed a lot the other YA novel Sanderson has released a bit earlier : The Rithmatist. It reminded a bit the spirit of Harry Potter, the amazing discovery of a magic system (even if it's only chalk drawings) and the beginning of a friendship with a mystery at school.

His novellas or short stories are also interesting readings like the emperor's soul and Legion.

Warbreaker and Elantris are slower books but still good readings if you like how Sanderson make specific magic systems and gods and his funny dialogues. But these two books don't really have battle scenes, well there are few ones but they aren't really epic... or I don't remember them that way.

I didn't like his Alcatraz books because the main character just spends his time noticing too many random things, and it's confusing. I felt like the first book was the most difficult Sanderson book I have read.

But I suffered more with The Way of Kings. It's supposed to be the first of 10 books and the idea to not get ten books of Sanderson, especially some fantasy books, made me read the whole book, while with another author I would have given up. Because it's incredibly slow-paced. And it has many beginnings before we finally got to the main characters. I suppose the beginnings are supposed to say to us there are many different periods of history before the main story. But it isn't the most easy way to enter a book. It is finally more interesting around the 2/3 of the book (the first half was more the showing of the world), but I am not really sure. I mostly remember reading it was more like grinding. And at the end of the book, it didn't feel like it was worth it even if the end was good. But I am hoping that with the following books, I won't regret it.
But some other people didn't feel it was that slow. But maybe it's better to read it closer to the second book (it's out in march 2014).

Since I am not either a fan of westerns, I didn't really like the Alloy of laws, even if there's a curiosity of seeing what legacy the characters of the previous books left. That was so western-like even with the magic system of Mistborn.
 

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I think I'd also say don't bother regarding the Wheel of Time.

...Well no actually I'd say read it, because its brilliant especially if you're a fan of the genre.

But it is such a significant commitment that unless you will actually be able to read at a consistent pace, then don't bother. I personally discovered the series at age 14 and binge read up to the 10th book over the following couple of years. However I was in high school at that point, and had hours upon hours to read after school and on weekends. I also read extremely fast. So in most cases I'd only recommend it if you're prepared to start reading a series that you probably won't finish until 2015 or beyond, where minute details from earlier books continually crop up in later books (i.e. things you may have forgot).

That's the main reason I'd call the Wheel of Time "flawed". It's just far too ambitious for its own good. If you've got the time and commitment to get into it you won't regret, but I have a feeling too many people would start, get to maybe the 3rd or 4th book and then leave the series for a bit. At which point restarting would be hard, because they'd have forgotten important details.
This seemed to have a place here. Hope you don't mind me quoting it here Bebe.

I'm pretty intrigued by the series, but I really don't like the sound of a book series where each addition may have little happen and barely move the plot along further (or so it seems at that moment in time). Saying that, I imagine all of you big Wheel of Time fans would say the same, it's not like you like Wheel of Time because you were interested in reading a series where that happens.

It's probably the series I'm most torn on. It's probably the most recognisable fantasy series after LOTR and perhaps SOIAF; I've read LOTR countless times and read the first 2 from SOIAF. I really should give Wheel of Time a try - I have plenty of time for hobbies, well, I neglect my studies in order to - it's whether the series captures me enough to then neglect other hobbies (new Xbox and Wii U soon).

I really feel a need to give it a chance, I feel like I'm missing out - I need to atleast give it a go. But I don't want to end up reading the whole series even if I don't enjoy it that much, simply because I've already put time into it. I reckon if I think it's okay but not great, I'll just persist anyway because I don't want to give up and the time already spent reading it would feel like a waste.
 

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This seemed to have a place here. Hope you don't mind me quoting it here Bebe.

I'm pretty intrigued by the series, but I really don't like the sound of a book series where each addition may have little happen and barely move the plot along further (or so it seems at that moment in time). Saying that, I imagine all of you big Wheel of Time fans would say the same, it's not like you like Wheel of Time because you were interested in reading a series where that happens.

It's probably the series I'm most torn on. It's probably the most recognisable fantasy series after LOTR and perhaps SOIAF; I've read LOTR countless times and read the first 2 from SOIAF. I really should give Wheel of Time a try - I have plenty of time for hobbies, well, I neglect my studies in order to - it's whether the series captures me enough to then neglect other hobbies (new Xbox and Wii U soon).

I really feel a need to give it a chance, I feel like I'm missing out - I need to atleast give it a go. But I don't want to end up reading the whole series even if I don't enjoy it that much, simply because I've already put time into it. I reckon if I think it's okay but not great, I'll just persist anyway because I don't want to give up and the time already spent reading it would feel like a waste.
No problem on the quoting.

As for the bolded, that is only really an issue for books 8-10 imo. There's a serious pace that keeps you well and truly hooked through the 7th book, then there's a bit of a lull (interrupted by the end to book 9, which is one of the series high points imo). Having just looked through this thread its clear you'd enjoy them Alock.
 

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Has anybody read Malazan Book of the Fallen? Is it any good?
A couple of people in here said that they intended to, I wonder if they ever got round to it. Nearco has read it it seems from his post regarding the order of the books.

I've considered reading it too - I remember finding that the first book has very mixed reviews, but all the ones after that are considered great. I don't believe the quality of the book is less though, I believe it's because people 'try' the first book and if they don't like it rate/review it accordingly. Obviously, those who don't like it mostly won't go on to read the 2nd; those who do, accept and like the style of writing so have less negative to write about it.

From the impressions I've got, it's incredibly epic, with a wealth of settings, history, characters - so much that it can be overwhelming, especially in the first book. As a result, it's complicated and can be at times hard to read.

It's strange, from those impressions I'm not sure it's worth my time when it's 10 books long. If I were to sum up my thoughts on reading Lord Of The Rings though - I'd throw some of the same criticisms at it; not complicated but it can be a hard read, it's not particularly well written, sometimes there is too much detail and it can be slow. But I would always hugely recommend it, it's epicness overshadows anything else and makes it mostly forgivable.
 

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A couple of people in here said that they intended to, I wonder if they ever got round to it. Nearco has read it it seems from his post regarding the order of the books.

I've considered reading it too - I remember finding that the first book has very mixed reviews, but all the ones after that are considered great. I don't believe the quality of the book is less though, I believe it's because people 'try' the first book and if they don't like it rate/review it accordingly. Obviously, those who don't like it mostly won't go on to read the 2nd; those who do, accept and like the style of writing so have less negative to write about it.

From the impressions I've got, it's incredibly epic, with a wealth of settings, history, characters - so much that it can be overwhelming, especially in the first book. As a result, it's complicated and can be at times hard to read.

It's strange, from those impressions I'm not sure it's worth my time when it's 10 books long. If I were to sum up my thoughts on reading Lord Of The Rings though - I'd throw some of the same criticisms at it; not complicated but it can be a hard read, it's not particularly well written, sometimes there is too much detail and it can be slow. But I would always hugely recommend it, it's epicness overshadows anything else and makes it mostly forgivable.
I'm a big fan of world building as it is, so the more epic the better, as long as I'm in the right mind for it. I myself love a good well-made fantasy world, one rich with religions, folklore, history etc., so I'm sure I'll enjoy that aspect Malazan, just as long as it's not as tedious as Wheel of Time. I'm going to force myself to give it a try.
 

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I've narrowed my next read down to these:

Eye of the World
Assassin's Apprentice
Before They Are Hanged
Ender's Game
Gardens of the Moon
Storm Front
The Hedge Knight

Any suggestions on which one I should pick?
 

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I only read 4 titles in your list and my favourite one is the SF one : Ender's game. It's better to read it before... well I guess the end is easier to be accidentally found out with the movie out. But it's a must-read SF title, I believe it's more about how Ender copes and still grows and the Valentine-Peter subplot is also a nice touch (when we see when the book was written).

I have only read the first Dresden File (really easy reading, without nearly slow moment, but not really subtle).

I am surprised though you put in your list a second book since I think that if you read the first book, you should know if you liked enough or not the first book to go on (except if the second book is an awful let-down). Even if I also read the Blade itself and I can't say I am motivated enough to try the second book when there so many other popular fantasy books that may be more to my liking.
 

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I only read 4 titles in your list and my favourite one is the SF one : Ender's game. It's better to read it before... well I guess the end is easier to be accidentally found out with the movie out. But it's a must-read SF title, I believe it's more about how Ender copes and still grows and the Valentine-Peter subplot is also a nice touch (when we see when the book was written).

I have only read the first Dresden File (really reasy reading, without nearly slow moment, but not really subtle)
Thanks, I was thinking about reading that one. What are the other three you've read?
 

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I only read 4 titles in your list and my favourite one is the SF one : Ender's game. It's better to read it before... well I guess the end is easier to be accidentally found out with the movie out. But it's a must-read SF title, I believe it's more about how Ender copes and still grows and the Valentine-Peter subplot is also a nice touch (when we see when the book was written).

I have only read the first Dresden File (really reasy reading, without nearly slow moment, but not really subtle).

I am surprised though you put in your list a second book since I think that if you read the first book, you should know if you liked enough or not the first book to go on (except if the second book is an awful let-down). Even if I also read the Blade itself and I can't say I am motivated enough to try the second book when there so many other popular fantasy books that may be more to my liking.
Ah, I thought I put the first book on the list, my bad. Is it worth reading though?
 

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Eye of the World
Assassin's Apprentice
Storm Front

I am planning to read Gardens of the Moon when I manage to finish or stop one of the three books I am currently reading.

The Blade itself is quite slow (so slow that I am not even sure if three quarters of the book was background with lot of show, or if it was a "let the reader find out slowly what's the story is about as the same time as the characters that are left in the dark"), quite unconventionnal I suppose with its cast (you got a torturer and a selfish annoying noble soldier by example)...
 

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Eye of the World
Assassin's Apprentice
Storm Front

I am planning to read Gardens of the Moon when I manage to finish or stop one of the three books I am currently reading.
Assassin's Apprentice was one I was wondering about. What did you think of it? The premise really appeals to me and of my list it was the one I was most considering reading.
 

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I liked Assassin's Apprentice though I won't advise it to everyone since it's quite slow. It really feel sometimes more like a history book with all the details with the politics, the Court, and the education of the hero. It isn't an all battle or magic everywhere.

Even if the book if Fitz's POV, we see a complex and not all-black-or-white world.
 

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Ah, I thought I put the first book on the list, my bad. Is it worth reading though?

Storm Front is the first book of the Dresden Files. The whole series is hugely entertaining. It's by no means difficult or dense, but the characters are all interesting, as are the cases he covers.

Before They Are Hanged was quite good. The Blade Itself was slow for me to get into but once I did, I finished all three books in about 3 weeks. Each book builds but never really "finishes" until the finale. Not really cliffhanger endings but it builds enough to get really interesting and ends, which was somewhat frustrating.

I couldn't finish the prologue of Eye of the World. Enders Game was one of my favorite books as a kid. It's not particularly complex but is good.
 

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Storm Front is the first book of the Dresden Files. The whole series is hugely entertaining. It's by no means difficult or dense, but the characters are all interesting, as are the cases he covers.

Before They Are Hanged was quite good. The Blade Itself was slow for me to get into but once I did, I finished all three books in about 3 weeks. Each book builds but never really "finishes" until the finale. Not really cliffhanger endings but it builds enough to get really interesting and ends, which was somewhat frustrating.

I couldn't finish the prologue of Eye of the World. Enders Game was one of my favorite books as a kid. It's not particularly complex but is good.
I think he was talking about Before They Are Hanged. Anyway I'm going to read Storm Front, cheers. There were a couple of others I was wondering about though that I forgot to mention, so if anyone has read any of these I would appreciate your opinion: the Gentlemen Bastard series and The Broken Empire series.
 

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Halfway through Name of the Wind. It's pretty fecking good.