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2014-15 Performances


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5.6 Season Average Rating
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Pexbo

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Dear God.

39 Backwards or Square passes, 20 forward passes.
0/1 Take On
0/4 Crosses

and for Balance, 1 assist which obviously makes up for everything and absolves him of any criticism.
 

Ixion

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I want to chop his right foot off just to see what happens when a ball touches his left.
 

Eugenius

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The Sunderland player was stupid for the first goal, once he showed Valencia onto the left he was useless. The lack of penetration down the flanks was the biggest reason we sucked today. Just kept playing it back inside and doing nothing with it. He's even worse without a full back overlapping him.
 

milemuncher777

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He got an assist while taking on his man, but for some reason reverted to spend rest of the game playing the ball inside to central midfielders most of the time when he got the ball. Seriously, infuriating player to watch.
 

footballgirl07

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Just isn't a WB. No defensive ability in his game at all. Not much else tbh when he's going forward. Sideways passing rather than taking on his man.
 

Agent Red

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:lol: The inverted commas.

He's one of the most culpable for slowing our play down. Gets in a good position then predictably stops to either cut back or yet again over run the ball because he daren't take on his man or use his left foot. Replacing him with Januzaj or Di Maria would be an obvious improvement on the wings, though would probably leave us yet more fragile at the back.
 

Ludens the Red

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He was good defensively. He won the ball a lot down sunderlands left. Poor going forward but that's the norm.
 

lilcurt

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When trying to think of something constructive to say regarding Valencia there is just a void in my mind.

All I will say is that if he were a horse I'd give him the bullet.
 
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Back in the team and slipping back into his bad old ways. We know what our expectations are for wingers and he's not living up to them. They show him onto his left and the ball goes infield over and over again.

Hopefully Di Maria will give us that penetration we're lacking from the wings and reduce the amount of our play from the right. As an attacking force, Valencia's just living on past glories.
 

Tibs

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We will play better by starting with 10 men, rather than playing him.

Utterly abysmal
 

Yorkeontop

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For me he was a positive. I watch Juve a lot and thats the sort of performance I've seen from WB, solid defensively and so so going forward.
 

Dominos

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He was so cowardly in the 2nd half. Ample 1 on 1 opportunities yet he passed it back inside and ruined our momentum rather than take responsibility to make something happen.

Credit for the assist mind, the one time he did find his bollocks.
 

Raw

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It's such a shame seeing him this way, he used to be able to storm past defenders with ease. Now he's just frightened of it. He did it once today and managed an assist.

Can't wait until we get to see Di Maria over this dross.
 

Amethyst

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Thought apart from the mistake for their goal, he was actually OK defensively. There was one moment in particular when Sunderland would have been in on goal and he got an important touch away. His strength was good and held off people, shielding the ball well.

Offensively he was poor though, the assist aside. Yorke was right when said that it should have given Valencia confidence but he looked afraid to take on the left back as though he'd forgotten there was no Rafael to bail him out.

Not a good performance but Young, Cleverley and Fletcher were worse by some distance in my opinion.
 

saivet

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I still can't believe we handed this a guy a 3 year contract.
 

Ekeke

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For me he was a positive. I watch Juve a lot and thats the sort of performance I've seen from WB, solid defensively and so so going forward.
Can you please explain how not marking the man he was supposed to be marking on a set piece counts as being solid defensively?
 

shaggy

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Can't play right wing. Can't play right back. Can't play wing back. Can't shoot. Can't cross. Can't pass. Can't dribble past people. Given a new contract.
 

FromTheBench

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He was fine today and pretty solid defensively 2nd half in particular.

Gave the assist for the goal (Which should count as a take on won) and lost the man for their goal defending a corner so that's a negative.
 

FromTheBench

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For me he was a positive. I watch Juve a lot and thats the sort of performance I've seen from WB, solid defensively and so so going forward.
Yeah, that's the sort of performance Holland's wingbacks gave as well. Plus he assisted the goal.
 

Devil may care

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It's amazing that we have a new system and new manager yet we STILL have Valencia and Young stinking up our wings.
 

Ducklegs

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The most irritating thing about him, is that he will undertake almost any amount of physical contortions, and waste countless passing and shooting opportunities just to avoid using his left foot.

It's not even a case of working a better opportunity, it's a case of a pass could be there if he just side foots it with his left, but he would rather spin 270 degrees or dislocate his hip to use his right.

It's almost as if he doesn't believe his left foot exists.
 

Ekeke

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The wingback role is absolutely 100% the best role for Valencia. It makes it understandable when he doesnt create as much as a winger, puts some value in his tackling but doesn't give him completely responsibility defensively, which is good because Valencia has no idea how to position himself or mark defensively.

And he's still very average. In fact Ashley Young performs better in the role than Valencia does.

We're out of roles to try and make Valencia look good.
 

Badunk

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We possess the only two wingers in world football who don't possess a single trick between them. No nutmegs, no stepovers, no Cruyff turns, no Zidane dragbacks, nothing.
 

Yorkeontop

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Can you please explain how not marking the man he was supposed to be marking on a set piece counts as being solid defensively?
Here was at fault for the goal,you right there. That happens though. I'm just pointing out his overall play. He did create our goal.
 

Ekeke

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Here was at fault for the goal,you right there. That happens though. I'm just pointing out his overall play. He did create our goal.
He did, with the one good thing he did offensively. A low smash across goal.

Defensively he won a bunch of tackles, but defending is more than tackling. Its about covering space, marking, etc. And with those actions Valencia looks clueless.
 

Yorkeontop

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He did, with the one good thing he did offensively. A low smash across goal.

Defensively he won a bunch of tackles, but defending is more than tackling. Its about covering space, marking, etc. And with those actions Valencia looks clueless.
Dont stress out over Antonio my man. He aint a big issue at the moment for me. We have Di Maria coming in to sure up our wing play and dont forget about Rafael.
 

Ekeke

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Dont stress out over Antonio my man. He aint a big issue at the moment for me. We have Di Maria coming in to sure up our wing play and dont forget about Rafael.
I'm just amazed that he's not applying himself better. He's not a right back, we know and understand that. And he's had no attacking play to his game for years so he was clearly at the end of his career as a winger for us. So it all seemed perfect that now we're playing wingbacks.

And somehow he thinks its okay to put in mediocre performances in that role too
 

noodlehair

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My favourite moment of the game today was when Cleverley played a long ball out to him on the wing, and then because a defender was close to him, he moved away from the wing and pretended the pass was too high for him, even though it bounced about half a metre before it went off the pitch.

Surely when you do things like that you must feel like the world's smallest man?
 

Mad Winger

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Not meaning to sound like a nancy, but that title is a bit unnecessary. I'm not a big fan of Valencia, but he's still a United player. To be insulted already from the title is a bit harsh
 

RedStarUnited

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Today the LB sussed him out, showed him to his left and Valencia crumbled every time. He has 0 belief in himself.
 

Joga Bonito

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My favourite moment of the game today was when Cleverley played a long ball out to him on the wing, and then because a defender was close to him, he moved away from the wing and pretended the pass was too high for him, even though it bounced about half a metre before it went off the pitch.

Surely when you do things like that you must feel like the world's smallest man?
I remember that moment as well. Its sad since Young was considerably worse than him so Valencia's performace isn't under scrutiny. His new contract is looking more and more like the one we needlessly handed Nani last season. Just baffling...