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Thought he had a fairly good game. The decision making is still not there but will come over time as he's still only 19. The confidence of being selected in our biggest game of the year will also do him good.
Agreed, on another day he comes away from the game with an assist and a penalty won, for only his second start and in a game against the best team in the league up against a top RB, I don't see too much to criticize.
 

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hes much better when he plays on the left. Most of his good games for us have had him starting out there where he can use width and not always cutting in like he does on the right.
 

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Hazard was far better, much more creative. Yes Januzaj created a good chance for RVP with one great pass (which was excellent and reminded me of a similar ball he played about this time last year) But he was very in and out of the game, often cut back, slowed down our play far too much, walked with the ball instead of attacked the full back, got one shot off that I can remember which was decent play but not enough of that, nor created opportunities or a serious threat to Chelsea any other time, IMO.

Hazard was pretty dangerous, every time Chelsea got the ball they tried to play through him. He was quick, defensively would get them out of a hole by beating a man down a wing. Made the corner the goal came from out of nothing via a quick 1-2 and should have scored himself at the end of it.

For me there was no comparison in performance yesterday between Hazard and Januzaj. Which is what I disagree with.

I'd imagine statistically that'd be proven as well, with touches, completed passes, dribbles etc. G Neville almost gave Hazard man of the match for a start which he quoted in commentary. IMO Hazard was the best player on the pitch, even though for me neither side performed particularly well / played tactically to cancel each other out.
Anytime he gets the ball, he was against 2 to 3 chelsea players. Iva, Fab, Willian and Matic. 3 out of those four will be there every time. He played well.
 

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i changed my mind.

he was borderline "ok" at the most. a 19 year old in his second start of the season against a shit team like chelsea should have at least scored or set up three goals.

i have no idea what LVG has been thinking, leaving him out there for the full 90 minutes the past two games. if your adnan's age and you can't show better results, it's off to Wigan for you.
 

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His first good game of the season. I hope he can build on that one and become better. The kid needs some games under him. When Rooney returns, I'd rather see him start than Mata.
 

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His first good game of the season. I hope he can build on that one and become better. The kid needs some games under him. When Rooney returns, I'd rather see him start than Mata.
Thing is though, that Januzaj is supposed to provide the team with more pace and direct play than Mata. This season, he has shown little of his pace (we know he's fast) and he dallies far too much on the ball. Take away those two things and I think Mata is superior in all other aspects of the game. Januzaj must dare to be more direct and run at defenders more. That said, he had a decent game, no doubt, but far from brilliant.

Comparing him to Hazard is silly at this point - they are different players with different strengths, and at this stage, Hazard is a couple of levels above.
 

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I didn't think he was good yesterday. Makes the wrong decision with the ball way too often. Hopefully he'll sort that out sooner rather than later, as he has the ability, but can't agree with those who thought he played well.
 

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Thing is though, that Januzaj is supposed to provide the team with more pace and direct play than Mata. This season, he has shown little of his pace (we know he's fast) and he dallies far too much on the ball. Take away those two things and I think Mata is superior in all other aspects of the game. Januzaj must dare to be more direct and run at defenders more. That said, he had a decent game, no doubt, but far from brilliant.

Comparing him to Hazard is silly at this point - they are different players with different strengths, and at this stage, Hazard is a couple of levels above.
He has created twice as much clear chances in two matches compared to Mata the whole season.
 

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He has created twice as much clear chances in two matches compared to Mata the whole season.
Mata created a pretty good chance for Di Maria yesterday, Januzaj created a pretty good one for Van Persie. Honours even there. Don't think Mata has shone this season yet, but neither has Januzaj.
 

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He has created twice as much clear chances in two matches compared to Mata the whole season.
I meant on a general basis. Mata has better technique, better passing and close control. Januzaj has the potential, but just because Mata has played below expectations doesn't mean that he is suddenly shite. He has disappointed me though.
 

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I meant on a general basis. Mata has better technique, better passing and close control. Januzaj has the potential, but just because Mata has played below expectations doesn't mean that he is suddenly shite. He has disappointed me though.
He has been below average since his arrival, the only thing he has done well is scoring goals, havent seen him give split through passes or even pass a defender. We rate Mata because of what he has shown in the past, but since he is a red, he has been bang average.
 

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Januzaj played really good I thought, always tried to beat his man, never tried to go into a shell like young and valencia, the kid has determination and nerves, that one pass to rvp, that split chelsea defence taking out like 4 players, was an amazing pass, I couldn't believe that was him
 

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Only thing I thought Januzaj needed to do yesterday was speed up his dribbling at times when there was empty space in front of him like Di Maria does. For example, Di Maria went full speed and ended up turning back and passing it to Mata after he realized there was no where for him to go as opposed to Januzaj going at a slower pace than he's capable of. No problem with him spending a lot of time on the ball while out on the wing and passing it back as that was the right option a lot of times because of no support or Chelsea keeping great shape.

It's important to note that Felipe Luis gave Januzaj much less space than Ivanovic did. Fellaini ended up giving Januzaj and Shaw support at the edge of the penalty box a couple of times (and failing to complete some attacking moves after receiving a pass) which Januzaj and Rafael didn't have on the right wing. Think both of those factors made Januzaj more effective on the left wing than the right apart from the team's overall lack of energy for large parts of the 2nd half.
 

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I Just can't find it in me to be bothered to join in the discussion regarding Januzaj and his form/performances. Kid is clearly class and I'm not worried in the slightest about him. I'm just going to take the good with the bad and enjoy watching him blossom into a top class player.

Don't get how anyone can be arsed to discuss the form or decision making of a teenager that is as good as him. Just relax and enjoy the ride!
 

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Too bad we don't have any league cup games. Adnan could play more games and get chances in the No. 10 position.
 

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I thouvht he played well. In a game against a very tactically astute team he managed to disrupt the solid foundations of chelseas defense and midfield.

The red card was definitely influenced by ivanovic tired time on the left. I felt januzaj struggled more on the right where luis had the speed to deal with his dribbling.
 

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Adnan Januzaj insists it was an honour to inherit the iconic no.11 shirt from Ryan Giggs, who he describes as his “godfather” at Manchester United.

Giggs hung up his boots in May and almost immediately stated his wish for somebody else to accept his famous jersey. That person was Januzaj, who was proud to accept the honour when approached in the summer and did not require a moment’s consideration.

"I was really happy to get the number of such a legend and it was a really big deal for me," Adnan told ManUtd.com. "I went to the office and they asked me if I wanted the shirt. I wasn’t going to say no! Straight away I said 'of course' and I didn’t have to think about it. It was a 'yes' straight away.

"It feels different," the 19-year-old continued. "Things have changed because it is a big responsibility to wear the no.11 shirt and having the number of a legend is really big. Ryan has helped me a lot and is like a godfather. He has told me to work hard on the training pitch and the rest is more personal. We talk about football a lot."
Although Januzaj only played with Giggs for a single season, the fledgling Belgian believes 12 months was ample time to tap into the Welshman’s knowledge and expertise.
"I learned a lot from him and the experience was great. He was such a good player to watch and is my favourite player of all time at United. Could I imagine playing at 40? Of course, if I am still fit. You never lose your quality, that’s something I learned from him."
 

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i changed my mind.

he was borderline "ok" at the most. a 19 year old in his second start of the season against a shit team like chelsea should have at least scored or set up three goals.

i have no idea what LVG has been thinking, leaving him out there for the full 90 minutes the past two games. if your adnan's age and you can't show better results, it's off to Wigan for you.
:D Post more often, please.
 

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Thing is though, that Januzaj is supposed to provide the team with more pace and direct play than Mata. This season, he has shown little of his pace (we know he's fast) and he dallies far too much on the ball. Take away those two things and I think Mata is superior in all other aspects of the game. Januzaj must dare to be more direct and run at defenders more. That said, he had a decent game, no doubt, but far from brilliant.

Comparing him to Hazard is silly at this point - they are different players with different strengths, and at this stage, Hazard is a couple of levels above.
Hazard is arguably one of the top five players in the world right now, it's insane how easily he carves teams up. But let's not forget, he's 23 and Adnandos is 19 and early on Hazard was labelled a bust during his first year at Chelsea. All I'm saying is, Januzaj needs playing time in the BPL to develop. I think that's when the positives of his game will return and he will suit our style more. Mata is a great player, but it seems like we need direct players with pace and good dribbling ability.
 

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Hazard is arguably one of the top five players in the world right now, it's insane how easily he carves teams up. But let's not forget, he's 23 and Adnandos is 19 and early on Hazard was labelled a bust during his first year at Chelsea. All I'm saying is, Januzaj needs playing time in the BPL to develop. I think that's when the positives of his game will return and he will suit our style more. Mata is a great player, but it seems like we need direct players with pace and good dribbling ability.
I wouldn't go that far at this stage. I'd certainly have him in the top 15 and maybe even top ten, but he has a bit to go before he is at the level of the likes of Ronaldo, Messi, Neymar, Robben, Suarez, Bale, Di Maria, etc.
 

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Hazard is arguably one of the top five players in the world right now, it's insane how easily he carves teams up. But let's not forget, he's 23 and Adnandos is 19 and early on Hazard was labelled a bust during his first year at Chelsea. All I'm saying is, Januzaj needs playing time in the BPL to develop. I think that's when the positives of his game will return and he will suit our style more. Mata is a great player, but it seems like we need direct players with pace and good dribbling ability.
I take it you missed the World Cup ?
 

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far out man, only this guy is stupid enough to casually decide to switch flanks with Di Maria when Chelsea has possession in OUR half. Luke Shaw was like wtf when Chelsea played the ball to that huge hole left behind.
 

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far out man, only this guy is stupid enough to casually decide to switch flanks with Di Maria when Chelsea has possession in OUR half. Luke Shaw was like wtf when Chelsea played the ball to that huge hole left behind.
Do you even like United or are you just some mincing fecking troll?
 

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Hazard is arguably one of the top five players in the world right now, it's insane how easily he carves teams up. But let's not forget, he's 23 and Adnandos is 19 and early on Hazard was labelled a bust during his first year at Chelsea. All I'm saying is, Januzaj needs playing time in the BPL to develop. I think that's when the positives of his game will return and he will suit our style more. Mata is a great player, but it seems like we need direct players with pace and good dribbling ability.
I'll never understand why RedCafe insanely overrates Hazard, or any other Chelsea player for that matter.
 

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Neither Januzaj or Depay will ever become world class, although they will still be good, productive players over the years. Depay certainly seems to have a greater upside than Adnan at the moment, although that could obviously change with form.
I don't see how you can be sure, did 20 year old David Silva look world class as merely one example of many? There's a difference between a player becoming world class and a player developing to a Ronaldo or Messi level, that's beyond world class.
 

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I don't see how you can be sure, did 20 year old David Silva look world class as merely one example of many? There's a difference between a player becoming world class and a player developing to a Ronaldo or Messi level, that's beyond world class.
I'm well aware of that. I doubt either will be at the world class level. They will be good players, but I've seen nothing in either of them that suggests they will be anything more than good, long term professionals.
 

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One plays in the Eredivisie, the other in the Premier league.. Small but of a difference there. Let's see how depay gets on against the likes of Chelsea, City, arsenal rather than Ajax, feyenoord..
Januzaj rise to prominence has much to do with himself as it had to do with moyes. Depay has taken the route that normal youngsters take and is reaching the stage where he has achieved all that he can achieve at psv. Januzaj has not reached that level at united understandably.

However i would like it next season if we kept mata, rvp rooney and falcao who we are still yet to buy but this will be impossible if we buy a player higher than depays calibre.
 

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I'm well aware of that. I doubt either will be at the world class level. They will be good players, but I've seen nothing in either of them that suggests they will be anything more than good, long term professionals.
Huh? Januzaj was amazing last year at the age of 18. Now, if you except Messi level of talent, then that won't happen very often.
 

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Huh? Januzaj was amazing last year at the age of 18. Now, if you except Messi level of talent, then that won't happen very often.
He was amazing at times last year but that's no guarantee that he will be amazing this year, infact he seems to have regressed a bit since some of last year's performances. He will be a good player but definitely not world class imo. And when I'm talking about world class, I don't mean Ronaldo or Messi level, i mean the level below them where the likes of Di Maria, Robben et al dwell.
 

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I Just can't find it in me to be bothered to join in the discussion regarding Januzaj and his form/performances. Kid is clearly class and I'm not worried in the slightest about him. I'm just going to take the good with the bad and enjoy watching him blossom into a top class player.

Don't get how anyone can be arsed to discuss the form or decision making of a teenager that is as good as him. Just relax and enjoy the ride!
Agreed. Reading some of the criticisms of him, it's just incredibly harsh. It's like people forget what the normal progression of youngsters is, how they go through inconsistent spells and some poor form but ultimately they shine through it and develop into better players. He's clearly a special talent, and it shows how far he's come that people expect him to constantly perform as one of our best players despite only being 19.
 

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I'm well aware of that. I doubt either will be at the world class level. They will be good players, but I've seen nothing in either of them that suggests they will be anything more than good, long term professionals.
If you are well aware of it then I don't see how you can make the statement in truth. You mention Di Maria a couple of posts later, he was a player at 24 never mind 20 that most saw in the same light as Nani, not a world class player.
 

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If you are well aware of it then I don't see how you can make the statement in truth. You mention Di Maria a couple of posts later, he was a player at 24 never mind 20 that most saw in the same light as Nani, not a world class player.
That doesn't really matter. Some players develop later than others. That has nothing to do with making audacious predictions that 18 year olds will be world class based on a dozen or so appearances where they have impressed in about half of them.
 

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That doesn't really matter. Some players develop later than others. That has nothing to do with making audacious predictions that 18 year olds will be world class based on a dozen or so appearances where they have impressed in about half of them.
I'm not predicting they will be world class or otherwise, that is my point, your statement was definitive that neither would be world class, all I am saying is that there are dozens of players that are examples of how that is as invalid a claim as anyone saying either will be world class.
 
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