Roman Bellic
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I reckon he would have had a chance if you look at his competition last season but for the abysmal performance under Moyes and the ushering in of new talent by LVG
Nah, he's spent most of the last two seasons on loan yet failed to look any better than team-mates who will probably never end up playing for a CL team.I reckon he would have had a chance if you look at his competition last season but for the abysmal performance under Moyes and the ushering in of new talent by LVG
More or less, this.People are really over thinking this, the main reason it didn't work out is because he's absolutely useless.
We bought him for £10m + add-ons up to £15m max; which in reality is £10m as he didn't play for us, nor did we win the PL or CL. We got a loan fee from Cardiff of £1m or perhaps slightly more. We also got a loan fee from Palace, apparently £3m. The deal for them to buy him seems to be another £3m + £3m in add-ons. Add that all together and it looks like we may get our money back, or we may lose around £3m depending on whether they end up paying the add-ons; which I'm guessing are part appearance based and part Palace avoiding relegation.For how much did we sell him? Did we again do an idiotic job with the price?
Yep. Not that talented and not at all motivated. Guys like Mane at Soton are vastly superior to Wilf. I think that Anderson proves that SAF didn't have a magic wand for the unmotivated too.People are really over thinking this, the main reason it didn't work out is because he's absolutely useless.
Yeah, Fergie would definitely have given the guy a good run in the side I think. Moyes didn't seem to want to give him a shot. I wish him well but it's annoying the club wasted that money.I think Ferguson would have some sort of plan for him. Moyes and Van Gaal did not which is understandable since all his accolades were in the Championship.
Ferguson would at least get 5-10 good matches from Anderson a season.Yep. Not that talented and not at all motivated. Guys like Mane at Soton are vastly superior to Wilf. I think that Anderson proves that SAF didn't have a magic wand for the unmotivated too.
The loaning out made sense. He did the same with Smalling. It just makes no sense signing him in the first place if he knew he was leaving.Such a strange signing
Fergie signs him in January for 10 million rising up to 15 million but then loans him straight back to Palace for the rest of the season even though he knows he's retiring at the end of the season so will never actually manage him
I recall he was signed as a present for David Moyes, wasn't he?Another brilliant Fergie "one for the future" signing.
Yes, needed to happen. Been overdue for a good couple of years. Think we'll see the final stage of it in the summer.LvG sorting out the dead wood properly.
And miss out on the pleasure of when he inevitably scores against us when we play them at their place in May? Where's the fun in that?Should have waited until the summer to sell him.
You're being far too generous to the player. Even if we ignore him making no impact at United he's had two longish loan spells where he made almost no impact, consistently out-played by teammates who would cost a fraction of what he cost to sign. He wasn't even in unfamiliar surroundings. Has looked like the worst winger at the club where he learned his football.He thought he was going to play for Ferguson. Must hurt him a lot that the dream move was an absolute nightmare in every sense of the word. Don't get why he was loaned back out initially either tbh. If Fergie knew he was retiring, it's all well wanting to leave a young talent to the new manager but this is a 15m player, who as it turned out didn't fit with the new manager. He may not have been involved much in the final 6 months of 12/13 - actually he probably would have considering the league title was a stroll. And more importantly his introduction would have been better served under the influence of Ferguson, training with players at the top of their levels and understanding the culture of the club. Leaving it to the summer meant he had to do that, impress the new manager who himself was having to accustom himself to Manchester United. The transfer was a total wreck.
The posters who compared him to Ronaldo in the first 10 pages of this thread need to be named!People are really over thinking this, the main reason it didn't work out is because he's absolutely useless.
This plus it seems he cost us less then originally stated more like 10mil, but since he was on loan for some of that time we got at least some of his wages off the book, plus possibly received a loan fee, so we might not have "lost" anywhere near the money some think we have.People are really over thinking this, the main reason it didn't work out is because he's absolutely useless.
Well he continued to win with that bunch.Another Fergie Flop from the last few years. I really do think that in the whole "no value in the market" era, SAF's borderline obsession with trying to turn mid-table PL players into world beaters was detrimental to us.