Paddy McNair image 33

Paddy McNair Northern Ireland flag

2014-15 Performances


View full 2014-15 profile

5.8 Season Average Rating
Appearances
18
Clean sheets
5
Goals
0
Assists
0
Yellow cards
2

Getsme

Full Member
Joined
Jan 4, 2013
Messages
11,244
So many twatish fans on here, they seem to leech on to something that they might consider a mistake from a player they don’t like and milk the feck out of it. What happened to giving youth players a chance?
 

khoazany

Full Member
Joined
Jul 2, 2012
Messages
6,515
Location
Singapore
Smelling was close by. fletcher is hardly the quickest, if Fletcher was through he would have got a red.
Come on.Every defender will give out a foul in that situation.Fletcher was clear through on goal and could take a shot.I doubt a defender in that situation has enough time to judge whether the opponent is fast or slow.
 

pseudo_canadian

Full Member
Joined
Jun 19, 2013
Messages
18,762
Location
New England
Honestly I thought he was fine today. Though the foul that lead to their goal was absolutely brain-dead from him.

Missing that header was pretty poor too.
 

Ringo 07

Full Member
Joined
Sep 27, 2004
Messages
5,615
Location
Schweiniesque
Tbf he didn't have any other option last 2 games except Blackett.

Today he didn't play Jones for assesing Match rhythm though as per his not playing injured players too quick philosophy.
I'd have preferred to see Blind partnering Smalling with Young at left back....we can not afford to be playing clueless 19 year olds at this stage of the season
 

Bojan11

Full Member
Joined
May 16, 2010
Messages
33,113
Come on.Every defender will give out a foul in that situation.Fletcher was clear through on goal and could take a shot.I doubt a defender in that situation has enough time to judge whether the opponent is fast or slow.
For the last time, if Fletcher was through why wasn't it a red? He was at fault for missing the header.

Our defence looks nervy with him around. It's not a coincidence.
 

Devil may care

New Member
Joined
Jan 7, 2010
Messages
35,976
I thought he was ok, needs to hold his position better at times though, he makes too much work for Smalling when his concentration drifts.
 

Irrational.

Full Member
Joined
Aug 10, 2011
Messages
32,913
Location
LVG's notebook
Granted, the boy has potential.

But he's just too young and inexperienced to risk playing him at this crucial stage of the season, especially in a position where we are so fragile. He had the opportunity to get us something from this game from both ends, and epically failed both times.
 

11101

Full Member
Joined
Aug 26, 2014
Messages
21,297
So many twatish fans on here, they seem to leech on to something that they might consider a mistake from a player they don’t like and milk the feck out of it. What happened to giving youth players a chance?
'might consider a mistake'?

I like McNair but that half challenge was laughable and has ended up costing us the game. He deserves stick for it.
 

Ringo 07

Full Member
Joined
Sep 27, 2004
Messages
5,615
Location
Schweiniesque
Holy feck :lol:
He's just not ready for the first team no matter what way you look at it. Van Gaal obviously likes to give youth a chance and that is a good thing but you have to draw the line at times. Would Mourinho play McNair for 3 major games in a row at this stage of his development? Absolutely no chance. Would Ancelotti or Guardiola have played him for 3 major games in a row at this stage of his development? no chance......he should be nowhere near the first team.....Carrick missing was a huge problem but McNair playing was equally as huge a problem for us today and he cost us in the end with a stupid mistake that any 19 year old is guaranteed to make
 

Getsme

Full Member
Joined
Jan 4, 2013
Messages
11,244
'might consider a mistake'?

I like McNair but that half challenge was laughable and has ended up costing us the game. He deserves stick for it.
Watch it again, the tackle was always going to be made. It resulted in a frekish goal from a FK. Lets say he didnt make the tackle and Fletcher scored, I wonder what everyone would be saying then eh?
 

Stack

Leave Women's Football Alone!!!
Joined
Sep 6, 2006
Messages
13,331
Location
Auckland New Zealand
'might consider a mistake'?

I like McNair but that half challenge was laughable and has ended up costing us the game. He deserves stick for it.
bollocks, what cost us the game was the inability to create scoring chances at the other end.
 

tom33

Full Member
Joined
Sep 30, 2012
Messages
1,525
Don't want to be too harsh on a young lad, and I know a lot of it is necessity due to injury, but I genuinely haven't seen anything to suggest that he's good enough.
 

FromTheBench

Full Member
Joined
May 3, 2014
Messages
10,478
I'd have preferred to see Blind partnering Smalling with Young at left back....we can not afford to be playing clueless 19 year olds at this stage of the season
Blind from what i've seen is a disaster waiting to happen in a CB role in back 4 and he would have probably given the same foul as he has done from DCM. Plus on top of that Young at LB. Sigh.

Anyway, you are being too harsh on Mcnair. He's there given the situation only.
 

Getsme

Full Member
Joined
Jan 4, 2013
Messages
11,244
He's just not ready for the first team no matter what way you look at it. Van Gaal obviously likes to give youth a chance and that is a good thing but you have to draw the line at times. Would Mourinho play McNair for 3 major games in a row at this stage of his development? Absolutely no chance. Would Ancelotti or Guardiola have played him for 3 major games in a row at this stage of his development? no chance......he should be nowhere near the first team.....Carrick missing was a huge problem but McNair playing was equally as huge a problem for us today and he cost us in the end with a stupid mistake that any 19 year old is guaranteed to make
How is he going to get ready?
 

Classical Mechanic

Full Member
Joined
Aug 25, 2014
Messages
35,216
Location
xG Zombie Nation
Don't want to be too harsh on a young lad, and I know a lot of it is necessity due to injury, but I genuinely haven't seen anything to suggest that he's good enough.
He is more than good enough on the ball, he is very a poor defender at this point. He is just too weak. I think that we should keep hold of him for another year or two though. He could develop that side of his game. I would send him on loan next year as I don't think he is off the required defensive level for our first team.
 

dsch

Full Member
Joined
May 24, 2009
Messages
1,770
bollocks, what cost us the game was the inability to create scoring chances at the other end.
This. I just don't see the sense in blaming the person who gave away the free kick for probably the flukiest goal we've conceded all season.
 

Ringo 07

Full Member
Joined
Sep 27, 2004
Messages
5,615
Location
Schweiniesque
How is he going to get ready?
He can get ready in Carling cup and FA CUP appearances for us. To play him in our biggest games of the season is just stupid really..he actually played really well today but the mistake he made was guaranteed to happen and it has cost us bigtime........if we blow top 4 this season than this club is in big trouble financially
 

NinjaZombie

Punched the air when Liverpool beat City
Joined
Dec 7, 2011
Messages
10,148
He'll be disappointed with giving the foul away and missing that chance, but our problems lie deeper than that. To blame him for this loss is harsh.
 

Getsme

Full Member
Joined
Jan 4, 2013
Messages
11,244
He can get ready in Carling cup and FA CUP appearances for us. To play him in our biggest games of the season is just stupid really..he actually played really well today but the mistake he made was guaranteed to happen and it has cost us bigtime........if we blow top 4 this season than this club is in big trouble financially
Who else is there to play as CB? The fact that he stood up and hasnt looked out of place has to be a credit to him.
 

BarstoolProphet

Full Member
Joined
Aug 7, 2014
Messages
6,515
Evans light. Actually very good with the ball but junior level when it comes to defending and positioning. It's not his fault LvG opts for him though.
 

11101

Full Member
Joined
Aug 26, 2014
Messages
21,297
Watch it again, the tackle was always going to be made. It resulted in a frekish goal from a FK. Lets say he didnt make the tackle and Fletcher scored, I wonder what everyone would be saying then eh?
It wasnt a tackle. He backed out but did it too late. Its not a mistake a player should be making at this level.
 

Kag

Full Member
Joined
Jun 15, 2013
Messages
18,875
Location
United Kingdom
bollocks, what cost us the game was the inability to create scoring chances at the other end.
Given McNair missed a free header from six yards then his point probably still stands then. Errors at both ends cost us.
 

11101

Full Member
Joined
Aug 26, 2014
Messages
21,297
bollocks, what cost us the game was the inability to create scoring chances at the other end.
And there i was thinking conceding a stupid free kick that led to a goal had something to do with it.
 

tom33

Full Member
Joined
Sep 30, 2012
Messages
1,525
He is more than good enough on the ball, he is very a poor defender at this point. He is just too weak. I think that we should keep hold of him for another year or two though. He could develop that side of his game. I would send him on loan next year as I don't think he is off the required defensive level for our first team.
That's the problem. He looks like a midfielder playing defence. Can't blame him, because thats exactly what he is. Just not sure what van Gaal sees that makes him think he's good enough to play at centre half ahead of some of the other youngsters who have years of experience in the position.
 

Getsme

Full Member
Joined
Jan 4, 2013
Messages
11,244
It wasnt a tackle. He backed out but did it too late. Its not a mistake a player should be making at this level.
It was a professional foul, it happens time and time again during a match.
 

J-Stander

Correctly predicted Portugal to win Euro 2016
Joined
Sep 30, 2013
Messages
5,748
He's shite at defending. Good at bringing the ball out but poor at what he's actually on the pitch for.
 

DWelbz19

Correctly predicted Portugal to win Euro 2016
Joined
Oct 31, 2012
Messages
34,010
He's very good on the ball but he actually cannot defend.
 

Ringo 07

Full Member
Joined
Sep 27, 2004
Messages
5,615
Location
Schweiniesque
Who else is there to play as CB? The fact that he stood up and hasnt looked out of place has to be a credit to him.
I'd have played Blind beside Smalling.....and Young at left back...you need experience in such an important game.....West Brom are monsters in height and physicality and were always going to bully an inexperienced defender
 

Brwned

Have you ever been in love before?
Joined
Apr 18, 2008
Messages
50,848
I'd have played Blind beside Smalling.....and Young at left back...you need experience in such an important game.....West Brom are monsters in height and were always going to bully an inexperienced defender
That didn't happen though. He made one very silly error which was very unlucky to result in a goal and other than that we looked very comfortable. Admittedly Smalling did almost all of the defending single-handedly but that's besides the point. McNair wasn't bullied at any stage defensively and he used the ball well.