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Hmm didn't see that...



So you're looking at it on a position by position basis? Makes sense in that case.
Yeah, it said something like highest rated players require 85%+ (so for me that applies to my 92+, starting lineup requires 75%+ and Rodríguez is the only one not including the above who'd get into my starting lineup, then 40% or less for the rest depending.
 

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Lack of Games
In a typical Game World, with 38 league games, a player evaluates their season at regular intervals. This usually occurs around Turns 10, 22 and 32.

When deciding the maximum number of games a player could potentially play, they only consider league games but when counting the number of games they have played, all games where a player can lose fitness are counted.

For example, if a player has played 12 league games and 3 cup games, and 20 league games have been played so far this season, then the player would have played 15 out of a possible 20, which is 75% of games.

With regards to substitutions, if a player comes on as a substitute then it will count as half an appearance irrespective of what minute they entered the match.

For example, if a player has played 12 league games, come on as a substitute 8 times and played 3 cup games, and 20 league games have been played so far this season, then the player would have played 19 out of a possible 20, which is 95% of games.

Within your squad:

  • the highest rated players expect to play in approximately 85% of games;
  • players that would expect to be in your first choice line-up and those rated 90 or above, will expect to play in approximately 75% of games;
  • players that would expect to be a substitute if you selected your first choice line-up and those rated 89 or above, will expect to play in approximately 30-40% of games.
  • the rest of the players within your squad will only expect to play a few (if any) games.
Goalkeepers are worked out slightly differently, with your highest rated and those 88 or above expecting to play in approximately 90% of games.
If a player plays less games than he would have wanted he still might not develop a concern or increase a level but the level is likely to stay the same not decrease.

For example, if a player expects to play in approximately 75% of games but actually plays in 70%, then his morale may decrease but he may not develop a concern.

A player may still develop a concern despite him playing 10 or 15 games in a row, as at the time he evaluates his season, the total games played is still below how many he would have wanted to have played by this stage of the season.

For example, if a player expects to play in approximately 75% of games, and from Turn 1 they only play in 2 games out of a possible 10, when it comes to Turn 10 they will develop a Level 1 concern due to only featuring in 20% of games.

If you then start playing them from Turn 10 and they play in the next 12 games (out of a possible 12), when it comes to Turn 22, his concern will increase to Level 2 due to only playing in 14 games out of a possible 22, which is 63% of games.
 

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Yeah, it said something like highest rated players require 85%+ (so for me that applies to my 92+, starting lineup requires 75%+ and Rodríguez is the only one not including the above who'd get into my starting lineup, then 40% or less for the rest depending.
Yeah that makes sense. I don't have any such issues with my team with most of them being 90/91.
 

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De Gea (92/85%)

Kompany (93/85%) Ramos (95/85%), Rodríguez (91/75%)

Griezmann (92/85%) Bale (94/85%) Pogba (92/85%) Vidal (94/85%) Özil (94/85%)

Götze (93/85%) Messi (99/85%)​


Isco (92/85%), Lacazette (91/40%), Eriksen (91/40%), Son (90/40%), Gomes (90/40%), Memphis (90/40%), Digne (89/40%), McCarthy (89/40%), Aurier (89/40%)

Guerreiro (88/20%), Zouma (88/20%)

Hopefully that makes a bit more sense to you laid out like that @RedSky
  • the highest rated players expect to play in approximately 85% of games;
  • players that would expect to be in your first choice line-up and those rated 90 or above, will expect to play in approximately 75% of games;
  • players that would expect to be a substitute if you selected your first choice line-up and those rated 89 or above, will expect to play in approximately 30-40% of games.
  • the rest of the players within your squad will only expect to play a few (if any) games.
 

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De Gea (92/85%)

Kompany (93/85%) Ramos (95/85%), Rodríguez (91/75%)

Griezmann (92/85%) Bale (94/85%) Pogba (92/85%) Vidal (94/85%) Özil (94/85%)

Götze (93/85%) Messi (99/85%)​


Isco (92/85%), Lacazette (91/40%), Eriksen (91/40%), Son (90/40%), Gomes (90/40%), Memphis (90/40%), Digne (89/40%), McCarthy (89/40%), Aurier (89/40%)

Guerreiro (88/20%), Zouma (88/20%)

Hopefully that makes a bit more sense to you laid out like that @RedSky
  • the highest rated players expect to play in approximately 85% of games;
  • players that would expect to be in your first choice line-up and those rated 90 or above, will expect to play in approximately 75% of games;
  • players that would expect to be a substitute if you selected your first choice line-up and those rated 89 or above, will expect to play in approximately 30-40% of games.
  • the rest of the players within your squad will only expect to play a few (if any) games.
Yeah, think i'll just leave my 90's at 85% tbh.
 

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Hahaha happy days down to 10 men was 1-0 down at ht and have it set to change an attacker steve hunt off for de tomas.. I have subs set for the 60th min and one would have been hunt off so de tomas came off for noel hunt and noel hunt got the winner lol..

Inspiring management lmao
 

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If your club's finance is relatively bad, it means you are punching above your weight and should sell your player(s), instead of playing the violin every time

Damien has the biggest stadium, so he earns more than the rest

Deal with it
 

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@Damien your PE in the image you pasted on previous page for morale/concern table looks wrong for some players. Lacazette is 91 rated and you have him playing 40%. Similarly for Eriksen. Memphis and Gomes probably should be at 75% too. For you, even 90 rated players are as backup/subs but don't think SM goes by average squad value for this. You should measure these 4 against target of 75%.
 

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In that case why have the FFP at all?
It is to avoid big clubs hoarding too many good players and talents, and level the playing field to a certain extent

To reduce the squad cap even further for Utd (and Arsenal):
1. It is not cool
2. It is not going to happen unless Damien is on a high
3. There are other, albeit more difficult, ways
 

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It is to avoid big clubs hoarding too many good players and talents, and level the playing field to a certain extent

To reduce the squad cap even further for Utd (and Arsenal):
1. It is not cool
2. It is not going to happen unless Damien is on a high
3. There are other, albeit more difficult, ways
Am suggesting we linearly adjust the FFP restrictions from top to bottom, not to decrease united's cap. Dont want to ruin the game for him, which it will.
 

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It is to avoid big clubs hoarding too many good players and talents, and level the playing field to a certain extent

To reduce the squad cap even further for Utd (and Arsenal):
1. It is not cool
2. It is not going to happen unless Damien is on a high
3. There are other, albeit more difficult, ways
Let me bust this myth once and for all.

Unites are currently 17.2mil in the green.
Sunderland are on 4.7mil.

Arsenal who everyone thinks are close to United are on 5.7mil.
 

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Let me bust this myth once and for all.

Unites are currently 17.2mil in the green.
Sunderland are on 4.7mil.

Arsenal who everyone thinks are close to United are on 5.7mil.
Utd probably earns more these past 1-2 seasons due to their success. I consider Utd and Arsenal are top 2 clubs based on stadium size
 

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Utd probably earns more these past 1-2 seasons due to their success. I consider Utd and Arsenal are top 2 clubs based on stadium size
Yes, his success last season is why he's making so much. It will go down again next season if he doesn't win as much.

My point was regarding the money being made as that's what people complain about when it comes to damo and yet I'm clubbed with him when I make as much as Sunderland.
 

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Let me bust this myth once and for all.

Unites are currently 17.2mil in the green.
Sunderland are on 4.7mil.

Arsenal who everyone thinks are close to United are on 5.7mil.
How about we bust the biggest myth 42,000 capacity is not the same as 76,000 capacity and should never have been put in the same bracket, as a matter of fact it's closer in capacity terms to the lowest capacity stadium than it is to old Trafford.
 

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Its gate, TV, merchandise etc what he makes noney on. Prize money is crap.

We should raise his cap by 19 and force him to buy a £10k player of each Div 1 team for £1m. Redistribution if wealth :D

Oh and congrats Christy your park the bus tactics worked :p
 

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How about we bust the biggest myth 42,000 capacity is not the same as 76,000 capacity and should never have been put in the same bracket, as a matter of fact it's closer in capacity terms to the lowest capacity stadium than it is to old Trafford.
Bust is all you want, I'm not going to stop you. What I'm interested is revenue being used to club me with United when I make as much as Sunderland.
 

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Its gate, TV, merchandise etc what he makes noney on. Prize money is crap.

We should raise his cap by 19 and force him to buy a £10k player of each Div 1 team for £1m. Redistribution if wealth :D

Oh and congrats Christy your park the bus tactics worked :p
Some would say it was moruniho-esque
 

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Utd probably earns more these past 1-2 seasons due to their success. I consider Utd and Arsenal are top 2 clubs based on stadium size
Yes, his success last season is why he's making so much. It will go down again next season if he doesn't win as much.

My point was regarding the money being made as that's what people complain about when it comes to damo and yet I'm clubbed with him when I make as much as Sunderland.
Bear in mind last year was my most successful season as well which has bumped revenue
I assume it means increasing the squad cap for other clubs?
Yup
 

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I'm not in favour of any increase in squad cap right now. It's something that should be revisited at the start of next season not now.
 

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Arsenal are delighted to announce the signing of Alex Sandro from Tottenham. He was pictured below indicating how "smart" a move it was for him.



The club also wishes to thank Chiellini for his services to the club.
 

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Arsenal are delighted to announce the signing of Alex Sandro from Tottenham. He was pictured below indicating how "smart" a move it was for him.



The club also wishes to thank Chiellini for his services to the club.
For a second I thought I was in the Transfer tweets thread and thought WTF wasn't he at Porto and is this Sol Campbell all over :lol:
 

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Very close race for the signature of Danilo Pereira of Porto.



Bids:

Everton - 5,537,000.
MKD - 5,505,000.
NUFC - 3,750,000 + Nathan Ake (1,520,000).

Does the valuation of one's own chairman decide the value of the player in the P/E? Think it's been like that in other deals i've made.
 

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Bids:

Everton - 5,537,000.
MKD - 5,505,000.
NUFC - 3,750,000 + Nathan Ake (1,520,000).

Does the valuation of one's own chairman decide the value of the player in the P/E? Think it's been like that in other deals i've made.
Way too old for the Forest heirarchy. You should have him though.
 

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Very close race for the signature of Danilo Pereira of Porto.



Bids:

Everton - 5,537,000.
MKD - 5,505,000.
NUFC - 3,750,000 + Nathan Ake (1,520,000).

Does the valuation of one's own chairman decide the value of the player in the P/E? Think it's been like that in other deals i've made.
You got him.
 

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Manchester United are delighted to announce an agreement has been made with Liverpool for the permanent signing of Raheem Sterling. André Gomes and Alexandre Lacazette will be going in the opposite direction. This transfer will be done by me sending him £11M + André Gomes, then once the Sterling transfer is done Barney will offer the £11M for Lacazette. Great deal for Liverpool I'm sure you'll all agree, and I am happy this has been done in an amicable manner.
 

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Bids:

Everton - 5,537,000.
MKD - 5,505,000.
NUFC - 3,750,000 + Nathan Ake (1,520,000).

Does the valuation of one's own chairman decide the value of the player in the P/E? Think it's been like that in other deals i've made.
Fecking 32k :lol: I was going to top it up slightly after your latest bid but I left it. Fair play, good luck with him
 

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Manchester United are delighted to announce an agreement has been made with Liverpool for the permanent signing of Raheem Sterling. André Gomes and Alexandre Lacazette will be going in the opposite direction. This transfer will be done by me sending him £11M + André Gomes, then once the Sterling transfer is done Barney will offer the £11M for Lacazette. Great deal for Liverpool I'm sure you'll all agree, and I am happy this has been done in an amicable manner.
Got your mega signing after all.

Must say, in isolation, its Barney that's getting the better deal. Your embarrassment of riches at CF make it a fair deal for you though as you need a Sterling more than a Lacazette.
 

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Got your mega signing after all.

Must say, in isolation, its Barney that's getting the better deal. Your embarrassment of riches at CF make it a fair deal for you though as you need a Sterling more than a Lacazette.
Yeah, Barney summed it up well:

Happy with the deal. Sterling will almost certainly end up the best of the three, but the other two are both very good players and improve me immediately
Gomes has a great future ahead of him anyway and Lacazette will be at least 91 for the forseeable unless he has a big drop off in form. Think he wouldn't be able to get a better deal from anyone else.