Exactly, that is tapping up.
De Gea Contract Situation
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Whilst that maybe so, I am fairly sure clubs also use the press to circulate stories/rumours etc.
Perhaps they were never after Neymar and Woodward made no Barcelona trip but if that were the case, why would we not issue a press release stating that we were never interested in Neymar?
Something we have never done, of course.
Of course we have, but are not stupid enough to basically come out and admit it. Through his tears Perez has lashed out and forgot what he should and shouldn't say. If he doesn't watch he will drop his club into a whole lot of trouble.
That's not the point. Perez has put his ego before Real Madrid. Just imagine, the club have already put out a statement - we responded. And then Perez isn't happy so responds. This guy would not last 5 minutes in England because he's unprofessional, he's foolish and I'm not sure he knows what he's talking about.
The thing is for that charge to stand, we have to make an official complaint..then the authorities will charge Madrid, De Gea and Mendez for the wrongdoing..as all three are parties to the action( Same thing happened with Ashley Cole I recall). Do we want to go that route, seeing as we probabaly have used Mendez in the past to do the same for us?
Mendes has robbed MILLIONS AND MILLIONS from football clubs - as have most agents. All we have to do is deal with Mendes.
Sorry, but that's pretty much how Madrid work - it's all about the president. Nothing new here and they will continue to do so.
Can't remember the exact quote but Moyes during his time here basically admitted in an interview that we tapped a player up.
So why did the club bother to make the statement? This isn't for me btw. I don't really care. Did Perez forget his signature at the end of the club statement? It seems to me a bit redundant and if this is how it's done? God help them lol.
Because then you encourage the press to bring every rumour to the club's attention and demand a club statement. Which leads the entire transfer process to become even more of a circus than it already is, not to mention it is impossible to keep any transfer secret if you have to reveal which of all the rumours aren't true.
But if Mendez is charged with this, he could easily state that he has done the same for United and will have all the paperwork to prove it..And we would get into trouble too..And DDG would be charged too, can we afford to further strain relations between us?
The fact that he says they didn't bother all Summer because we didn't want to sell underlines the sheer ridiculousness of everything he's saying.
Yea, we at Madrid will immediately stop any pursuit once a club tell us they don't want to sell.
Anyoje who believes anything that man says is an idiot.
Yea, we at Madrid will immediately stop any pursuit once a club tell us they don't want to sell.
Anyoje who believes anything that man says is an idiot.
I just meant pulling him to the side and having a frank conversation with him which results in De Gea resigning. Basically tell him to stop being a lying two faced contemptible cnut.
Exactly. That's exactly why they tap up in the first place. They buy the player first and then manipulate the situation to attempt to force the club into selling else the player will be unhappy and create a bad dressing room.
Doubt he'll get anywhere near starting that game - if he fecked up in that game, imagine the absolute shit-storm that would come his way. Although, alternatively, he'd be hailed a hero straight away if he played a blinder against our sworn enemy.
I hope we ease him back in rather than that kind of baptism of fire, but who knows with LVG; he can go either way.
Does our drama match what your lot is going through at the moment? What's it like watching this stuff as an outsider?
If we don't play De Gea we will lose.
Romero isn't good enough. Benteke will batter him in the air, and Romero won't be able to hold his shots.
If we lose thanks to Romero's mistakes, which I feel is very likely if he plays, Louis Van Gaal is going to get slaughtered by fans and media alike.
I like that his statement boils down to...
"We blame no one for this unavoidable issue, and remain good friends with Man Utd, but it is their fault, they've ruined DDG's life through sheer incompetence by not giving us exactly what we wanted easily as possible. cnuts."
"We blame no one for this unavoidable issue, and remain good friends with Man Utd, but it is their fault, they've ruined DDG's life through sheer incompetence by not giving us exactly what we wanted easily as possible. cnuts."
This needs to go in the thread title so the papers pick it up.
I wouldn't apportion blame to LVG in the case of Romero starting. Who knows what DDG's form and mind-state will be like in his first game back? If he played and was dire, some support would blame the manager, so he can't win.
He's speaking of inexperience and bringing up Coentrao, but wasn't it Madrid who pulled out of that deal as they couldn't get a replacement.
That's not a bad idea, would be nice to see the papers run with that. Man Utd don't need to say a word, but that all over the media would be nice.
Yes indeed, after Siqueria went to Benfica on loan instead.
We really need to put Perez in his place now. We should have enough evidence that our part of the deal was done on time so we can sue him and madrid for defamation and tarnishing the brand name of United. These public declaration might be funny but in long term will be rememberd as ameturish dealings on our behalf. We need to set the record straight and look into legal action that de gea was tapped up and also use evidence that our side of the deal was done at right time and what perez said is just fake accusitions and we should sue em.
the guy or girl tweeting for Sport Witness has lost their shit. Basically ranting about de Gea being a pussy. Only tweets but they seem pissed off haahIf we hadn't already recorded - this would definitely be in there.
Sounds like a rambling old lunatic.
Someone brings that point up every summer, but there's a very good reason why clubs don't do that. First of all, why would they? It's just feeding the press and letting them print whatever they want - the press can then abuse it to check whether a club is actually pursuing someone. What rumours should the club address? Only ones from what they consider decent media, or from the likes of The Sun as well? Does a specific number of journos have to report the rumour before it's addressed? If the club official denies interest in even one player like that the press will use it against them afterwards. "Yesterday we reported that United are interested in signing BebeMk2. They haven't denied it, so it's obviously happening!".
It's just a personal insult against Woodward. He is relatively new to the job, and considering the mess with Thiago, Fabregas, etc, it's such an easy thing to throw out there.
Clubs don't seem to take this very seriously any more. When was the last time a club complained about another club tapping up their player? It almost seems to be the rule rather than exception nowadays.
Wait, where is Edurne?
I never get tired of these ones.And people keep talking about homophobia in football? If David and Juan were to come out as a couple I have a feeling this place would collapse in an implosion of "awwwwwww" and joyous declarations of support!
Haha, it's so lame. "This isn't your fault, but if you hand't been so damn stupid none of this would have happened".
He's a silly old bitter prick and if any of our fans or theirs believes a word that comes out of his mouth, then more fool them.
How many discrepancies were there in his statement?
1) open to negotiate at noon but say Man Utd only accepted 2hrs before deadline
2) Promise DDG, but don't do deals if other club doesn't want to
3) blast at United inefficient but come in last day of transfer
Anything I miss out?
1) open to negotiate at noon but say Man Utd only accepted 2hrs before deadline
2) Promise DDG, but don't do deals if other club doesn't want to
3) blast at United inefficient but come in last day of transfer
Anything I miss out?
Yeah, been after him all year then only bid on the last day because we apparantly said so.
Riiiiight, because that's what those honourable and not in anyway scumbags do....
He's the biggest sh*t talker in football, he's also universally known as a dodgy cnut when it comes to transfers and forcing players out of madrid.
Perez will Perez, deflect at all costs so madrid don't look bad. It's so predictable it's sad.
Because in this case specifically, we were linked with arguably the youngest super talent in the world and the figures mentioned were mind boggling. Woodward was apparently in Barcelona, but didn't sign Pedro. Why was he there? If we don't deny interest, then we look interested and willing to more than bend over backwards, but also drop our trousers to get him. Then we go and pay 36m (!!) for Martial. It looks like we are indeed desperate and will massively over pay. Running around apparently professing interest in all these "untouchables" makes us look a bit desperate and might make many more players think twice about joining. Essentially I would have though issuing a denial would be about limiting damage - whether you agree there could be any or not is of course another debate.
The "report them for tapping up" idea is ridiculous. That's a floodgate you don't want to open. Basically every big club including United have sometime in the past(and will continue to in the future) probably done something that could constitute "tapping up"
So was it 8 or 12 hours? Anyway, first the statement and now this? You'd think they are trying to convince people.
So it can't just be Perez trying to save face here? Also we'll always have an interest in those players mentioned but that doesn't mean we chase/bid for them. But should he become available we'd be all over it.
If Woodward had have come out and said what Perez said, United fans would think probably two things. He's lost his mind and he has to go. That's what United fans would think and other people would laugh out loud. The fact is though Perez will get away with it for now, and I feel sorry for the decent supporters. It's all coming out. What's been said about us? That we use windows 95 lol. That the files were password protected lol. It's a stream of nonsense and I doubt we'll respond but we should sue them. United are one of the leading Brands in any sport. That's not a fluke and Woodward has been involved in plenty of deals. However, I would suspect he's not used to dealing with complete bastards who have robbed clubs of players and money
That doesn't really address any of the issues I posted though. Who decides when either the player or the rumours are big enough to deserve a official statement? If we deny interest in Neymar, what about Müller and Bale? And so on.
I highly doubt that players who we are actually interested in and who would like to join us would think twice because of rumours in the press. I can't really imagine Neymar going "well, I would like to go there but they were linked to Müller and didn't get him, so I'll just stay where I am instead".
Talking about players not coming to us now is all very bitter and twisted too.
The sniping is a sure sign he's talking bollocks.
The sniping is a sure sign he's talking bollocks.
That's Annie Eaves who is a United fan and frankly she is absolutely right.
He's the one that ran his contract down to make the move easier for him and Madrid..quite frankly, United fans have been quite accommodating of this..The only victim here is still Navas..
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