De Gea Contract Situation

Do you think David De Gea will sign a new contract at Man Utd this season?

  • Yes

  • No

  • Yes, but he'll still leave by the end of the season


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Is De Gea going to come out and say anything about this do we think? I hope so, I need to know he's happy staying here before I can like him again!
 

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http://www.elconfidencial.com/empre...s-hipotecar-las-cuotas-de-los-socios_1001360/ About the debt El confidencial says that Madrid cancelled 2 credits and refinanced the debt to not pay this year 54 but 80 in 2021.According to the article the net debt is 96m€,however AS publish sometimes articles of a economist called Liebana saying that the debt is much bigger.

Is the Spanish game today in Mata's hometown/club? @carvajal
Yes,I think that Sid Lowe lives there or at least is Oviedo fan.15 yeara ago died Dubovsky,a slovakian that played in Oviedo(he fell from a cliff in Thailand),maybe they chose the location to do some tribute before the game.


How has Jesé recovered from his injury?
Jesé is known for being a bit problematic so in the beginning was difficult,longer than expected and he was a bit desperate and upset.Ancelotti didn't help with the lack of rotations but this preseason he played and did very well
 
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No, Im saying that he isnt happy to be here..He'll probably come out with some meaningless PR statement and then this will be swept under the rug.
I don't think he's unhappy to be here, he just wanted a move to the biggest club in his home city, where his girlfriend lives. I'm sure he's extremely grateful to be at one of the biggest clubs in the world and he clearly enjoys playing for us. I'd get sick of rain and wanking into a sock if I was Dave too!
 

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I don't think he's unhappy to be here, he just wanted a move to the biggest club in his home city, where his girlfriend lives. I'm sure he's extremely grateful to be at one of the biggest clubs in the world and he clearly enjoys playing for us. I'd get sick of rain and wanking into a sock if I was Dave too!

:lol:.. Can always get him a Manc girl if he is that desperate.
 

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Did anyone get a peek at this before taken down:

https://www.theguardian.com/info/2015/sep/05/removed-article


The title was : Keeping De Gea may have been no accident for Man Utd. @paulwilsongnm #MUFC http://gu.com/p/4c59j/stw (Pic: AP)
Was the text up and has now been taken down? If so then what did it say?

I would assume both the Spanish press and the English press will blame us, one owing to their love of Real Madrid, and the other for the business they can do printing attacks on United, but I am interested if this article has any actual information or sources rather than just a random opinion piece.
 

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Puts us in a strong position. No way he's first choice if he's on the bench this season. Force him to sign and then allow him to leave next season for
decent money.
 

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Puts us in a strong position. No way he's first choice if he's on the bench this season. Force him to sign and then allow him to leave next season for
decent money.
He wont be if he isnt playing, Del Bosque loves Casillas..even if DDG is playing, that still isnt a guarantee of him starting for Spain..He'll need to play and actually stand out to have that chance.
 

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Keeping David de Gea may have been no accident for Manchester United

If claims of Louis van Gaal being delighted with the way the transfer window went are correct, it is hard to believe hanging on to his No1 was not the plan

Manchester United expect David de Gea to stay at Old Trafford for the whole of the season and do not envisage Real Madrid’s interest being rekindled in January.

The goalkeeper is likely to have played Champions League games for United by then in any case, and it would make little sense for Real to pay money for a player they could pick up for nothing at the end of the season.

United insiders insist Louis van Gaal is happy with the business conducted during the transfer window, and part of that is the prospect of a full season from a committed De Gea. United trust De Gea’s “unbelievable professionalism” will come to the fore after the international break, when he is expected to get his head down and perform at his best.

Should it turn out that way United are likely to take a financial hit, receiving no fee for a player variously valued at up to £40m and suggested in part exchange for improbable targets such as Gareth Bale and Sergio Ramos – though both club and supporters would consider that preferable to negotiating the season with the underwhelming goalkeeping options otherwise available. Neither Sergio Romero nor Víctor Valdés have played enough club football in recent seasons to convince. Romero looked uncomfortable in United’s defeat at Swansea a week ago, while Valdés has fallen out with Van Gaal, been omitted from the Champions League squad and would have been permitted to leave for Turkey this summer had a proposed deal with Besiktas reached fruition.

United officials are being branded as inexperienced in Spain for the way in which the De Gea transfer fell apart, a charge the chief executive, Ed Woodward, has heard on occasion before, though despite the club’s insistence that everything was done properly one can readily give credence to suggestions that annoyance over the way Real blocked Ramos led to last-minute sabotage at this end.

United did not bother to bring in any credible goalkeeping alternatives to De Gea for a start, and if claims of Van Gaal being delighted with the way the window went are correct it is hard to believe keeping hold of his No1 goalkeeper was a complete accident. Rumour already has it that De Gea may be offered a new contract. All that remains to be seen is whether De Gea himself is delighted to spend another year in Manchester. It may be part of his original deal, but his Madrid-based girlfriend probably still thinks the place is uglier than the back of a fridge.

In broader terms, what the summer transfer window proved is that Manchester is where the money is. In point of fact, the entire Premier League is awash with money and the new television deal has not kicked in yet, but Manchester was where the most eye-watering sums changed hands. City spending almost £50m on Raheem Sterling was par for the course after being freed from financial fair play restraints – and within the insane bubble that is Premier League economics the former Liverpool player may even be worth that amount – yet despite a near faultless start to the season Manuel Pellegrini was not finished. Kevin De Bruyne and Nicolás Otamendi were also brought in at a combined cost of almost £90m. Those two alone, neither filling particularly obvious gaps in the City starting line-up, cost not far short of the £100m Joachim Löw has claimed Germany invested in youth development in recent years, guaranteeing future success at international level. “It makes sense to raise your own young players,” the Germany coach said, stating the obvious yet expressing a truth which the Premier League finds unpalatable.

Löw’s comments came in the wake of the windfall Wolfsburg picked up for moving on De Bruyne, who happens to be a Belgian product, yet his warning is clear enough. Bundesliga clubs use such riches to invest in future generations. Germany’s international record speaks for itself. English clubs, with a few honourable exceptions, simply seem to be in a mad panic to send colossal amounts of money out of the game and out of the country.

United’s frighteningly expensive capture of the French teenager Anthony Martial would appear to be a case in point. The club have made it clear they do not mind the price being quoted as £58m, rather than the initial payment of £36m, because if all the add-ons end up being paid they will have a bona fide superstar on their hands. If the add-ons end up not being paid they may have a somewhat overpriced Joe Average instead, but that is a risk United are willing to take on a 19-year-old player. Van Gaal is excited by Martial, the club have been tracking him for a while and, aware of interest from elsewhere, United were prepared to move quickly. The fee is roughly comparable to the valuations placed on Sterling, De Bruyne and John Stones in recent weeks, so what is the big deal? Back in 2004 United paid £26m for a promising teenager, the club point out, so given the whopping increase in club revenues since then and allowing for the effects of inflation, where is the difference?

The difference is that Wayne Rooney was English, and even at age 18 had played more than 60 Premier League games for Everton and quite a few for his country. In 2004 just about everyone in Europe had heard of him, whereas Rooney had to ask Morgan Schneiderlin whether United’s new signing was any good.

Martial may be excellent, though that is not really the point. The point is that the Premier League has passed the stage Löw was concerned about, where English players struggle for game time and the national team suffers as a result. The next development will be foreign managers – Belgian, Spanish or Brazilian – demanding to know why their top players are not appearing regularly for England’s leading clubs.

Premier League wealth being bad for the national team is old news it is a fact of football life and no one apart from Roy Hodgson appears to worry too much about it. Löw seems to care, bless him, while the rest of Europe finds it vaguely amusing the English have more money than sense. But the only reason these siren voices are being heard is because the Premier League hubbub has paused for a tumbleweed moment. Sorry, an international break. Normal service will be resumed in a few days

Found this on reddit
 

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Keeping David de Gea may have been no accident for Manchester United

If claims of Louis van Gaal being delighted with the way the transfer window went are correct, it is hard to believe hanging on to his No1 was not the plan

Manchester United expect David de Gea to stay at Old Trafford for the whole of the season and do not envisage Real Madrid’s interest being rekindled in January.

The goalkeeper is likely to have played Champions League games for United by then in any case, and it would make little sense for Real to pay money for a player they could pick up for nothing at the end of the season.

United insiders insist Louis van Gaal is happy with the business conducted during the transfer window, and part of that is the prospect of a full season from a committed De Gea. United trust De Gea’s “unbelievable professionalism” will come to the fore after the international break, when he is expected to get his head down and perform at his best.

Should it turn out that way United are likely to take a financial hit, receiving no fee for a player variously valued at up to £40m and suggested in part exchange for improbable targets such as Gareth Bale and Sergio Ramos – though both club and supporters would consider that preferable to negotiating the season with the underwhelming goalkeeping options otherwise available. Neither Sergio Romero nor Víctor Valdés have played enough club football in recent seasons to convince. Romero looked uncomfortable in United’s defeat at Swansea a week ago, while Valdés has fallen out with Van Gaal, been omitted from the Champions League squad and would have been permitted to leave for Turkey this summer had a proposed deal with Besiktas reached fruition.

United officials are being branded as inexperienced in Spain for the way in which the De Gea transfer fell apart, a charge the chief executive, Ed Woodward, has heard on occasion before, though despite the club’s insistence that everything was done properly one can readily give credence to suggestions that annoyance over the way Real blocked Ramos led to last-minute sabotage at this end.

United did not bother to bring in any credible goalkeeping alternatives to De Gea for a start, and if claims of Van Gaal being delighted with the way the window went are correct it is hard to believe keeping hold of his No1 goalkeeper was a complete accident. Rumour already has it that De Gea may be offered a new contract. All that remains to be seen is whether De Gea himself is delighted to spend another year in Manchester. It may be part of his original deal, but his Madrid-based girlfriend probably still thinks the place is uglier than the back of a fridge.

In broader terms, what the summer transfer window proved is that Manchester is where the money is. In point of fact, the entire Premier League is awash with money and the new television deal has not kicked in yet, but Manchester was where the most eye-watering sums changed hands. City spending almost £50m on Raheem Sterling was par for the course after being freed from financial fair play restraints – and within the insane bubble that is Premier League economics the former Liverpool player may even be worth that amount – yet despite a near faultless start to the season Manuel Pellegrini was not finished. Kevin De Bruyne and Nicolás Otamendi were also brought in at a combined cost of almost £90m. Those two alone, neither filling particularly obvious gaps in the City starting line-up, cost not far short of the £100m Joachim Löw has claimed Germany invested in youth development in recent years, guaranteeing future success at international level. “It makes sense to raise your own young players,” the Germany coach said, stating the obvious yet expressing a truth which the Premier League finds unpalatable.

Löw’s comments came in the wake of the windfall Wolfsburg picked up for moving on De Bruyne, who happens to be a Belgian product, yet his warning is clear enough. Bundesliga clubs use such riches to invest in future generations. Germany’s international record speaks for itself. English clubs, with a few honourable exceptions, simply seem to be in a mad panic to send colossal amounts of money out of the game and out of the country.

United’s frighteningly expensive capture of the French teenager Anthony Martial would appear to be a case in point. The club have made it clear they do not mind the price being quoted as £58m, rather than the initial payment of £36m, because if all the add-ons end up being paid they will have a bona fide superstar on their hands. If the add-ons end up not being paid they may have a somewhat overpriced Joe Average instead, but that is a risk United are willing to take on a 19-year-old player. Van Gaal is excited by Martial, the club have been tracking him for a while and, aware of interest from elsewhere, United were prepared to move quickly. The fee is roughly comparable to the valuations placed on Sterling, De Bruyne and John Stones in recent weeks, so what is the big deal? Back in 2004 United paid £26m for a promising teenager, the club point out, so given the whopping increase in club revenues since then and allowing for the effects of inflation, where is the difference?

The difference is that Wayne Rooney was English, and even at age 18 had played more than 60 Premier League games for Everton and quite a few for his country. In 2004 just about everyone in Europe had heard of him, whereas Rooney had to ask Morgan Schneiderlin whether United’s new signing was any good.

Martial may be excellent, though that is not really the point. The point is that the Premier League has passed the stage Löw was concerned about, where English players struggle for game time and the national team suffers as a result. The next development will be foreign managers – Belgian, Spanish or Brazilian – demanding to know why their top players are not appearing regularly for England’s leading clubs.

Premier League wealth being bad for the national team is old news it is a fact of football life and no one apart from Roy Hodgson appears to worry too much about it. Löw seems to care, bless him, while the rest of Europe finds it vaguely amusing the English have more money than sense. But the only reason these siren voices are being heard is because the Premier League hubbub has paused for a tumbleweed moment. Sorry, an international break. Normal service will be resumed in a few days

Found this on reddit
So it was just a clickbait headline? Ah, the wonderful press.
 

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Puts us in a strong position. No way he's first choice if he's on the bench this season. Force him to sign and then allow him to leave next season for
decent money.
it might motivate him for the year but that's the least you'd expect from any self-respecting pro. He's going to leave at the end of the year, most likely for nothing which I'm fine with but we need him as much as he needs us - I don't think we're in a position of strength at all.
 

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if Madrid bothered putting a respectable bid in a week earlier then we would have had our work cut out in stalling tactics
 

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Keeping David de Gea may have been no accident for Manchester United

If claims of Louis van Gaal being delighted with the way the transfer window went are correct, it is hard to believe hanging on to his No1 was not the plan

Manchester United expect David de Gea to stay at Old Trafford for the whole of the season and do not envisage Real Madrid’s interest being rekindled in January.

The goalkeeper is likely to have played Champions League games for United by then in any case, and it would make little sense for Real to pay money for a player they could pick up for nothing at the end of the season.

United insiders insist Louis van Gaal is happy with the business conducted during the transfer window, and part of that is the prospect of a full season from a committed De Gea. United trust De Gea’s “unbelievable professionalism” will come to the fore after the international break, when he is expected to get his head down and perform at his best.

Should it turn out that way United are likely to take a financial hit, receiving no fee for a player variously valued at up to £40m and suggested in part exchange for improbable targets such as Gareth Bale and Sergio Ramos – though both club and supporters would consider that preferable to negotiating the season with the underwhelming goalkeeping options otherwise available. Neither Sergio Romero nor Víctor Valdés have played enough club football in recent seasons to convince. Romero looked uncomfortable in United’s defeat at Swansea a week ago, while Valdés has fallen out with Van Gaal, been omitted from the Champions League squad and would have been permitted to leave for Turkey this summer had a proposed deal with Besiktas reached fruition.

United officials are being branded as inexperienced in Spain for the way in which the De Gea transfer fell apart, a charge the chief executive, Ed Woodward, has heard on occasion before, though despite the club’s insistence that everything was done properly one can readily give credence to suggestions that annoyance over the way Real blocked Ramos led to last-minute sabotage at this end.

United did not bother to bring in any credible goalkeeping alternatives to De Gea for a start, and if claims of Van Gaal being delighted with the way the window went are correct it is hard to believe keeping hold of his No1 goalkeeper was a complete accident. Rumour already has it that De Gea may be offered a new contract. All that remains to be seen is whether De Gea himself is delighted to spend another year in Manchester. It may be part of his original deal, but his Madrid-based girlfriend probably still thinks the place is uglier than the back of a fridge.

In broader terms, what the summer transfer window proved is that Manchester is where the money is. In point of fact, the entire Premier League is awash with money and the new television deal has not kicked in yet, but Manchester was where the most eye-watering sums changed hands. City spending almost £50m on Raheem Sterling was par for the course after being freed from financial fair play restraints – and within the insane bubble that is Premier League economics the former Liverpool player may even be worth that amount – yet despite a near faultless start to the season Manuel Pellegrini was not finished. Kevin De Bruyne and Nicolás Otamendi were also brought in at a combined cost of almost £90m. Those two alone, neither filling particularly obvious gaps in the City starting line-up, cost not far short of the £100m Joachim Löw has claimed Germany invested in youth development in recent years, guaranteeing future success at international level. “It makes sense to raise your own young players,” the Germany coach said, stating the obvious yet expressing a truth which the Premier League finds unpalatable.

Löw’s comments came in the wake of the windfall Wolfsburg picked up for moving on De Bruyne, who happens to be a Belgian product, yet his warning is clear enough. Bundesliga clubs use such riches to invest in future generations. Germany’s international record speaks for itself. English clubs, with a few honourable exceptions, simply seem to be in a mad panic to send colossal amounts of money out of the game and out of the country.

United’s frighteningly expensive capture of the French teenager Anthony Martial would appear to be a case in point. The club have made it clear they do not mind the price being quoted as £58m, rather than the initial payment of £36m, because if all the add-ons end up being paid they will have a bona fide superstar on their hands. If the add-ons end up not being paid they may have a somewhat overpriced Joe Average instead, but that is a risk United are willing to take on a 19-year-old player. Van Gaal is excited by Martial, the club have been tracking him for a while and, aware of interest from elsewhere, United were prepared to move quickly. The fee is roughly comparable to the valuations placed on Sterling, De Bruyne and John Stones in recent weeks, so what is the big deal? Back in 2004 United paid £26m for a promising teenager, the club point out, so given the whopping increase in club revenues since then and allowing for the effects of inflation, where is the difference?

The difference is that Wayne Rooney was English, and even at age 18 had played more than 60 Premier League games for Everton and quite a few for his country. In 2004 just about everyone in Europe had heard of him, whereas Rooney had to ask Morgan Schneiderlin whether United’s new signing was any good.

Martial may be excellent, though that is not really the point. The point is that the Premier League has passed the stage Löw was concerned about, where English players struggle for game time and the national team suffers as a result. The next development will be foreign managers – Belgian, Spanish or Brazilian – demanding to know why their top players are not appearing regularly for England’s leading clubs.

Premier League wealth being bad for the national team is old news it is a fact of football life and no one apart from Roy Hodgson appears to worry too much about it. Löw seems to care, bless him, while the rest of Europe finds it vaguely amusing the English have more money than sense. But the only reason these siren voices are being heard is because the Premier League hubbub has paused for a tumbleweed moment. Sorry, an international break. Normal service will be resumed in a few days

Found this on reddit
Wow, that's poor, even by sports journalism standards :wenger: LVG was happy with the transfer window, therefore United might've planned to sabotage the De Gea move? Christ that's pathetic :lol:
 

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That article makes no sense. Going off on a tangent about us not signing anybody else, completely ignoring the fact that we did have a replacement in mind, he was part of the De Gea deal.

It is telling how they completely accept Madrid's version and claim sabatoge at our end. One would have thought aa journalist would take a neutral stance but there you go....
 

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Keeping David de Gea may have been no accident for Manchester United

If claims of Louis van Gaal being delighted with the way the transfer window went are correct, it is hard to believe hanging on to his No1 was not the plan

Manchester United expect David de Gea to stay at Old Trafford for the whole of the season and do not envisage Real Madrid’s interest being rekindled in January.

The goalkeeper is likely to have played Champions League games for United by then in any case, and it would make little sense for Real to pay money for a player they could pick up for nothing at the end of the season.

United insiders insist Louis van Gaal is happy with the business conducted during the transfer window, and part of that is the prospect of a full season from a committed De Gea. United trust De Gea’s “unbelievable professionalism” will come to the fore after the international break, when he is expected to get his head down and perform at his best.

Should it turn out that way United are likely to take a financial hit, receiving no fee for a player variously valued at up to £40m and suggested in part exchange for improbable targets such as Gareth Bale and Sergio Ramos – though both club and supporters would consider that preferable to negotiating the season with the underwhelming goalkeeping options otherwise available. Neither Sergio Romero nor Víctor Valdés have played enough club football in recent seasons to convince. Romero looked uncomfortable in United’s defeat at Swansea a week ago, while Valdés has fallen out with Van Gaal, been omitted from the Champions League squad and would have been permitted to leave for Turkey this summer had a proposed deal with Besiktas reached fruition.

United officials are being branded as inexperienced in Spain for the way in which the De Gea transfer fell apart, a charge the chief executive, Ed Woodward, has heard on occasion before, though despite the club’s insistence that everything was done properly one can readily give credence to suggestions that annoyance over the way Real blocked Ramos led to last-minute sabotage at this end.

United did not bother to bring in any credible goalkeeping alternatives to De Gea for a start, and if claims of Van Gaal being delighted with the way the window went are correct it is hard to believe keeping hold of his No1 goalkeeper was a complete accident. Rumour already has it that De Gea may be offered a new contract. All that remains to be seen is whether De Gea himself is delighted to spend another year in Manchester. It may be part of his original deal, but his Madrid-based girlfriend probably still thinks the place is uglier than the back of a fridge.

In broader terms, what the summer transfer window proved is that Manchester is where the money is. In point of fact, the entire Premier League is awash with money and the new television deal has not kicked in yet, but Manchester was where the most eye-watering sums changed hands. City spending almost £50m on Raheem Sterling was par for the course after being freed from financial fair play restraints – and within the insane bubble that is Premier League economics the former Liverpool player may even be worth that amount – yet despite a near faultless start to the season Manuel Pellegrini was not finished. Kevin De Bruyne and Nicolás Otamendi were also brought in at a combined cost of almost £90m. Those two alone, neither filling particularly obvious gaps in the City starting line-up, cost not far short of the £100m Joachim Löw has claimed Germany invested in youth development in recent years, guaranteeing future success at international level. “It makes sense to raise your own young players,” the Germany coach said, stating the obvious yet expressing a truth which the Premier League finds unpalatable.

Löw’s comments came in the wake of the windfall Wolfsburg picked up for moving on De Bruyne, who happens to be a Belgian product, yet his warning is clear enough. Bundesliga clubs use such riches to invest in future generations. Germany’s international record speaks for itself. English clubs, with a few honourable exceptions, simply seem to be in a mad panic to send colossal amounts of money out of the game and out of the country.

United’s frighteningly expensive capture of the French teenager Anthony Martial would appear to be a case in point. The club have made it clear they do not mind the price being quoted as £58m, rather than the initial payment of £36m, because if all the add-ons end up being paid they will have a bona fide superstar on their hands. If the add-ons end up not being paid they may have a somewhat overpriced Joe Average instead, but that is a risk United are willing to take on a 19-year-old player. Van Gaal is excited by Martial, the club have been tracking him for a while and, aware of interest from elsewhere, United were prepared to move quickly. The fee is roughly comparable to the valuations placed on Sterling, De Bruyne and John Stones in recent weeks, so what is the big deal? Back in 2004 United paid £26m for a promising teenager, the club point out, so given the whopping increase in club revenues since then and allowing for the effects of inflation, where is the difference?

The difference is that Wayne Rooney was English, and even at age 18 had played more than 60 Premier League games for Everton and quite a few for his country. In 2004 just about everyone in Europe had heard of him, whereas Rooney had to ask Morgan Schneiderlin whether United’s new signing was any good.

Martial may be excellent, though that is not really the point. The point is that the Premier League has passed the stage Löw was concerned about, where English players struggle for game time and the national team suffers as a result. The next development will be foreign managers – Belgian, Spanish or Brazilian – demanding to know why their top players are not appearing regularly for England’s leading clubs.

Premier League wealth being bad for the national team is old news it is a fact of football life and no one apart from Roy Hodgson appears to worry too much about it. Löw seems to care, bless him, while the rest of Europe finds it vaguely amusing the English have more money than sense. But the only reason these siren voices are being heard is because the Premier League hubbub has paused for a tumbleweed moment. Sorry, an international break. Normal service will be resumed in a few days

Found this on reddit
If it played out like Perez said then I'm sure it was the plan all along, either Madrid have been played, or they have messed up, there is no middle ground for me now.
 

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United did not bother to bring in any credible goalkeeping alternatives to De Gea for a start, and if claims of Van Gaal being delighted with the way the window went are correct it is hard to believe keeping hold of his No1 goalkeeper was a complete accident.
We had five keepers at the time. There was no point in bringing in a sixth while De Gea was still at the club.
 

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eased back in, play a few good games, then a very political new contract.

it's inevitable!

Unlikely not to happen, as otherwise it'll mean he sits on way less money than he'd like, his agent will get a cut of the new contract, it's in our interests to get a longer contract/ sale clause agreed.
 

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it might motivate him for the year but that's the least you'd expect from any self-respecting pro. He's going to leave at the end of the year, most likely for nothing which I'm fine with but we need him as much as he needs us - I don't think we're in a position of strength at all.
While I agree with you about us needing DDG, I'm not sure LvG does. I can see him being completely happy with Romero if De Gea refuses to extend his contract.
 

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While I agree with you about us needing DDG, I'm not sure LvG does. I can see him being completely happy with Romero if De Gea refuses to extend his contract.
I can see it too - which would confirm that LVG's tendency to make unfathomable decisions.
 

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Keeping David de Gea may have been no accident for Manchester United

If claims of Louis van Gaal being delighted with the way the transfer window went are correct, it is hard to believe hanging on to his No1 was not the plan

Manchester United expect David de Gea to stay at Old Trafford for the whole of the season and do not envisage Real Madrid’s interest being rekindled in January.

The goalkeeper is likely to have played Champions League games for United by then in any case, and it would make little sense for Real to pay money for a player they could pick up for nothing at the end of the season.

United insiders insist Louis van Gaal is happy with the business conducted during the transfer window, and part of that is the prospect of a full season from a committed De Gea. United trust De Gea’s “unbelievable professionalism” will come to the fore after the international break, when he is expected to get his head down and perform at his best.

Should it turn out that way United are likely to take a financial hit, receiving no fee for a player variously valued at up to £40m and suggested in part exchange for improbable targets such as Gareth Bale and Sergio Ramos – though both club and supporters would consider that preferable to negotiating the season with the underwhelming goalkeeping options otherwise available. Neither Sergio Romero nor Víctor Valdés have played enough club football in recent seasons to convince. Romero looked uncomfortable in United’s defeat at Swansea a week ago, while Valdés has fallen out with Van Gaal, been omitted from the Champions League squad and would have been permitted to leave for Turkey this summer had a proposed deal with Besiktas reached fruition.

United officials are being branded as inexperienced in Spain for the way in which the De Gea transfer fell apart, a charge the chief executive, Ed Woodward, has heard on occasion before, though despite the club’s insistence that everything was done properly one can readily give credence to suggestions that annoyance over the way Real blocked Ramos led to last-minute sabotage at this end.

United did not bother to bring in any credible goalkeeping alternatives to De Gea for a start, and if claims of Van Gaal being delighted with the way the window went are correct it is hard to believe keeping hold of his No1 goalkeeper was a complete accident. Rumour already has it that De Gea may be offered a new contract. All that remains to be seen is whether De Gea himself is delighted to spend another year in Manchester. It may be part of his original deal, but his Madrid-based girlfriend probably still thinks the place is uglier than the back of a fridge.

In broader terms, what the summer transfer window proved is that Manchester is where the money is. In point of fact, the entire Premier League is awash with money and the new television deal has not kicked in yet, but Manchester was where the most eye-watering sums changed hands. City spending almost £50m on Raheem Sterling was par for the course after being freed from financial fair play restraints – and within the insane bubble that is Premier League economics the former Liverpool player may even be worth that amount – yet despite a near faultless start to the season Manuel Pellegrini was not finished. Kevin De Bruyne and Nicolás Otamendi were also brought in at a combined cost of almost £90m. Those two alone, neither filling particularly obvious gaps in the City starting line-up, cost not far short of the £100m Joachim Löw has claimed Germany invested in youth development in recent years, guaranteeing future success at international level. “It makes sense to raise your own young players,” the Germany coach said, stating the obvious yet expressing a truth which the Premier League finds unpalatable.

Löw’s comments came in the wake of the windfall Wolfsburg picked up for moving on De Bruyne, who happens to be a Belgian product, yet his warning is clear enough. Bundesliga clubs use such riches to invest in future generations. Germany’s international record speaks for itself. English clubs, with a few honourable exceptions, simply seem to be in a mad panic to send colossal amounts of money out of the game and out of the country.

United’s frighteningly expensive capture of the French teenager Anthony Martial would appear to be a case in point. The club have made it clear they do not mind the price being quoted as £58m, rather than the initial payment of £36m, because if all the add-ons end up being paid they will have a bona fide superstar on their hands. If the add-ons end up not being paid they may have a somewhat overpriced Joe Average instead, but that is a risk United are willing to take on a 19-year-old player. Van Gaal is excited by Martial, the club have been tracking him for a while and, aware of interest from elsewhere, United were prepared to move quickly. The fee is roughly comparable to the valuations placed on Sterling, De Bruyne and John Stones in recent weeks, so what is the big deal? Back in 2004 United paid £26m for a promising teenager, the club point out, so given the whopping increase in club revenues since then and allowing for the effects of inflation, where is the difference?

The difference is that Wayne Rooney was English, and even at age 18 had played more than 60 Premier League games for Everton and quite a few for his country. In 2004 just about everyone in Europe had heard of him, whereas Rooney had to ask Morgan Schneiderlin whether United’s new signing was any good.

Martial may be excellent, though that is not really the point. The point is that the Premier League has passed the stage Löw was concerned about, where English players struggle for game time and the national team suffers as a result. The next development will be foreign managers – Belgian, Spanish or Brazilian – demanding to know why their top players are not appearing regularly for England’s leading clubs.

Premier League wealth being bad for the national team is old news it is a fact of football life and no one apart from Roy Hodgson appears to worry too much about it. Löw seems to care, bless him, while the rest of Europe finds it vaguely amusing the English have more money than sense. But the only reason these siren voices are being heard is because the Premier League hubbub has paused for a tumbleweed moment. Sorry, an international break. Normal service will be resumed in a few days

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Thanks for the find. Poor piece. Actually expect a lot more from this author. Its literally, this happened and that happened, so this must be the case. Click bait candy.
 

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While I agree with you about us needing DDG, I'm not sure LvG does. I can see him being completely happy with Romero if De Gea refuses to extend his contract.
There is no way De Gea is going to sit on the bench for the season, even if he doesn't sign a contract. Van Gaal has his quirks, but he isn't stupid. The Liverpool game, he'll be on the bench but he will start the PSV game.
 

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He should be straight back in the team if Van Gaal has any kind of common sense...
 

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He should be straight back in the team if Van Gaal has any kind of common sense...
I have a feeling he will be. Unlike Valdes he seems to be thoroughly professional (as far as we know) so I can see Van Gaal respecting that and not holding this situation against him.
 

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Still clinging to hope this could make sure De Gea is our keeper for the next 10 years.

De Gea has got to feel slightly miffed that Real didnt just pay up and get him and instead chose to piss around.

He needs to play games to get in the Spanish Euro's first XI, so offer him a new contract, massive wages for his No1 spot back. Big buyout clause in there incase Real still want him, 60mish. Either we get a massive fee for him or he's ours long term. I still dont buy in to the theory that De Gea is unhappy at United. If he were Mendes would of had him putting in transfer requests and forcing the move long ago. As i see it, its most likely that he's happy with either outcome.
 

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Still clinging to hope this could make sure De Gea is our keeper for the next 10 years.

De Gea has got to feel slightly miffed that Real didnt just pay up and get him and instead chose to piss around.

He needs to play games to get in the Spanish Euro's first XI, so offer him a new contract, massive wages for his No1 spot back. Big buyout clause in there incase Real still want him, 60mish. Either we get a massive fee for him or he's ours long term. I still dont buy in to the theory that De Gea is unhappy at United. If he were Mendes would of had him putting in transfer requests and forcing the move long ago. As i see it, its most likely that he's happy with either outcome.
Dont do that to yourself...he's not unhappy at United, he and his significant other are just more happier at Madrid....he wouldnt have signed a contract with Madrid if he wanted to stay.

We offered to make him the highest paid gk in history, and that still didnt work...dont do this to yourself.
 

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:lol:.. Can always get him a Manc girl if he is that desperate.
Must be hard for DDG to be such a pussy whipped bitch! If my girl told me she wouldnt move to another country so I could earn millions playing football Id run her.
 
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