Looks like you're stuck with me then. Anyway, this particular thread hopefully hasn't got more than a couple of days' life left. Then we'll have to move on to something else.
BBC: United hold talks with Mourinho
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
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A club shouldn't have to publicly back their manager. Aside from it being a hollow endorsement, if a manager is underperforming, it's up to him to win their confidence by improving the situation, not the board/owner's to instill the confidence to turn things around.
Unless it's a situation in which it's a case of an otherwise trustworthy manager going through a bad period in the job, it's wrong of the club to back the manager and then be shown up later on for being perceived as hypocrites when they feel compelled to make a change.
Were are going to park the bus to top four next season!
We're both mad then. I like him and feel a little sad it hasn't worked.
He has to go though.
Imagine for just a minute if all this optimism is to be crushed in the next few days/weeks if United publicly deny all Mourinho links and say they're happy with Louis. It'll be a bloodbath.
I am the same. I feel bad that we are sacking him but at the end of the day fifth place and going out of the Champions League group stage is nowhere near good enough.
I'll miss his shenanigans but getting rid is the best thing the club can do while we have a world class manager and proven winner ready and able.
Hopefully Jose will have us challenging again and we can forget these last 3 years ever happened.
I think the old 'she canee take the strain' message would come up
It'll be a bloodbath.
He was backed last summer, that was enough
Ha! This chap claiming he's being stalked is like an Old Trafford streaker taking 75k people to court for voyeurism!
Great, and it didn't work, so why down that route again. 'De Telegraaf' need to grow up.
Or like people posting inane comments.
Yup. He has not delivered and need to leave. No other way around it.
How many times have we seen clubs publicaly back their manager and next minute they are gone? It is a pointless exercise and in our case would have caused outright rebellion from the fans.
As it is a Spanish paper, "immediately after" will be more like 1-2 weeks. In the same way when they report a deal will be done in "coming hours" they mean days.
Wouldnt expect anything today tbh
Wouldnt expect anything today tbh
They're not massively regarded in Spain I think Balague does some bits for AS. The only ones which are fairly reliable are the media outlets based in the team city.
ie. Mundo Deportivo and Sport for Barca
Marca for Madrid
Bilbao have one, forgotten name though
So beIN Sports in English now saying it's done.
Interestingly, they had none other than John Richardson on to comment on it....the same twat who was peddling the "it will never happen..." Nonsense a matter of weeks ago.
Interestingly, they had none other than John Richardson on to comment on it....the same twat who was peddling the "it will never happen..." Nonsense a matter of weeks ago.
All the outlets are running with a story that they think "should" happen. None of these stories have any developments as such, same story over and over just re-worded in some cases. He was wanted by Everton and in talks with PSG the other day. The only people who know if LVG is going are Woodward and co. albeit it does sound likely.
The AS article is based on today being the absolute final game of the season, so in theory it should be LVG's last. There is so much conjecture that he is going and staying I would wait until someone who is reliable as they come, says it is done. The club website or when it is breaking news all over the media
There is no chance Mourinho will set top four as his goal. He is a winner.
God this is fecking tiresome, just waiting for the red wedding now to be done with LVG im guessing. Is Jose Roose Bolton then?
Thiunk its a bit disrespectful that Mourinho is busy briefjng journalists the night before a cup final
Nah Mike Smalling is Roose Bolton and own goals are his dagger!
He spent the entire first season of Chelsea take 2 bleating on about how his side would not win the league, despite the fact they got into a fantastic position with 8 games left and had the easier run in. The revisionism on Mourinho is getting ridiculous. Unsurprising though, it's exactly what happened when we appointed LVG. He was suddenly an elite manager again.
Mind gamez.
Might not be the most recent but watch out with this stuff.
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/reminder-on-spoilers-and-use-of-language.417108/
People keep saying this. He spent his first season back at Chelsea repeatedly saying the team wasn't ready to win the league; openly saying next season was his target. He also brought up the fact that they were playing in the Europa League earlier as an excuse. No surprise if he did the same with us.
I am sure I saw this post fifteen mins ago. Did you delete and repost it?
Martial's future?
Aye. Just like this season when every week he threw a different Chelsea player under the bus. You have to admire his variety though, after one hopeless defeat he caused a sensation by refusing to answer any questions, and then the next week after yet another hapless defeat he caused another media sensation by doing a 10 minute monologue answering just one question.
I hope we get this over and done with soon after the final. He's coming so let's just rip it off like a plaster and hope for the best.
Na someone else just beat me to it.
He said something yesterday along the lines of he's very happy here, loves it in Manchester, shares a special relationship with United fans and can see himself at United for many years to come
A difference in talking down your title chances and setting top 4 as a goal. He finished 3rd with 4pts off the top and 10pts above 5th placed Everton that season. That's very different from making top 4 your goal and finishing 17pts and 15pts off the top in 4th/5th place. I don't expect him to come in and declare we are going to win the league next season either but if his ambition is to try and get us that 4th spot then he doesn't belong here. We give our best and we challenge, then we see where we end up.
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Stuff about payments to Monaco. It's nothing.
I feel the same as well. But for sure we can't have another season like this, he does need to leave..
So you think the club has been gambling its plans for the seasons ahead on the outcome of seven days?
He and Mendes have been ridiculous for months, even the story this week that De Gea (who also happens to be represented by Mendes) will stay if Mourinho comes in but will look to leave if Van Gaal stays. It shows how his antics and his style of management have left Mourinho with very few big clubs who would take him, us and PSG being probably the only two options he's got going forward.
If it is to be him I hope it's done early next week so we can start planning and I'll obviously get behind him and the team as I have with Moyes and Van Gaal but there will be part of me that will still think he's just a tiresome dickhead and would really rather we had either of the men managing City and Liverpool.
Are you implying that Mourinho isn't an elite manager? Because he very obviously is.
You don't seem to be able to grasp the concept of someone making a decision but for their own reasons not communicating it until later. All I've ever said is there's no verifiable source confirming a decision has been taken, whatever that decision may be. There, you've made me say it again. It's your fault.
There's also no chance that he'll be parking the bus unless that's the best way to play against a certain opponent. People obviously forgetting the scintillating football Chelsea played in the first half of last season...
"How to get the most clicks before the final," 3rd. edition.
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