You said you don't think the club has made a decision either way and you said this seven days ago. I posted it on the previous page.
I don't care how much stock you put into sources. Be wary of them all you want.
BBC: United hold talks with Mourinho
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I don't care how much stock you put into sources. Be wary of them all you want.
Under Ferguson we were the most successful club in England, plenty of money & with the largest support base.
Under Big Ron, Sexton, the Doc etc we were the best supported team in England. We paid out record fees, so obviously had money.
I don't get how it doesn't sync, it's not like some rich family bought & subsidised the club with their own money to turn them into a major force. We won every trophy going pre Ferguson & have been a major club for well over 50 years. Why the 2010's different, please explain.
And won the league the next year.
Van gaal bleat about top 4 and finish 5th the next year.
I think the difference is that under Fergie we won trophies at a rate that is staggering. 18 times out of 21 seasons we finished either 1st or 2nd in the EPL. Before Fergie even though we won every trophy going it was never at such a relentless rate. We have had over 2 decades of being used to winning something every season or 2nd season and so this current slow down feels like a major slump.
I don't know if an elite manager has the sort of season Mourinho just had. Possibly the worst season for a big club in recent memory.
Look, I can't stand Mourinho (so I'm wary of defending him whether he comes here or not) but I defy anyone to competently manage people like Terry and Fabregas without effectively giving in to their every whim. They appear to be every bit as snide and untrustworthy as Mourinho often seems.
Well he signed one of them.
He signed half the players he apparently fell out with. Doesn't inspire confidence does it?
Klopp Last season for dortmund? Fergie and wenger are just about the only managers who have managed to stay incredibly consistent for such a long time and never have a really, really bad season thrown in. It happens to everyone.
In that case, he'll fit in perfectly with our recent history.
So klopp isn't either then, one bad season and all his previous achievements are forgotten yet LVB is apparently an elite manager even though I can't remember the last time he won anything or had one good season, very strange views from some on here, not just you Twigg.
I didn't say LVG is an elite manager.
Much rather him than Mourinho though. Can't stand Mourinho personally. Will be quite gutted if we get him.
3rd place at a world cup with a Dutch side that had struggled before he took over isnt to be sniffed at.
It's weird because I don't like Mourinho, I don't know why but there is something about his face that I can't stand but unlike you I can see that he is a top manager. I don't understand why or most accurately how you can not just admit that there isn't a single perfect manager out there but that Mourinho is at the top of the managerial "food-chain".
If Balague doesn't know, then it may be happening.
For those of you who can't stand or don't like Mourinho, say he does join. What does he have to do to win you over?
Herrera is the only source of creativity here and even he isn't an actual playmaker, just a box-to-box with good passing skills. While Fellaini doesn't provide nothing apart from "physicality" (something that he isn't as good at as some claim he is because of his build) - and Schneiderlin actually got it covered (also with Herrera's aggressive style of play). An actual playmaker with good workrate (Gundogan being the best example) is needed here.
We keep hearing that we're using anything to beat LVB with when there's so much to beat him with yet you guys seem to be picking the one bad season for Jose out of how many to base everything on, and there's far more evidence in favour of Jose than LVB, you seem to be blinded by your hate for the man.
I was actually very pleased when we got LVB (Louis van bullshit, before anyone asks) but he's turned into a grade A arsehole and nothing like the manager we expected to see other than being an ass, he's failed on every level and has talked down to everyone while believing he's a genius while abusing the fans intelligence, he's a dick!
Yet you believe this cretin should not be replaced by probably the top one or two managers in the world based on one season where most of his players had obviously downed tools, ridiculous viewpoint.
I was actually very pleased when we got LVB (Louis van bullshit, before anyone asks) but he's turned into a grade A arsehole and nothing like the manager we expected to see other than being an ass, he's failed on every level and has talked down to everyone while believing he's a genius while abusing the fans intelligence, he's a dick!
Yet you believe this cretin should not be replaced by probably the top one or two managers in the world based on one season where most of his players had obviously downed tools, ridiculous viewpoint.
It doesn't its missing someone who can dictate/control the game
Klopp did, and he's one of the best coaches kicking around. As is Mourinho.
Suggesting that these managers don't have flaws would be untrue, but if they aren't part of the elite then it begs the question, who is?
The start to the season Mourinho had last year is an experience I'd expect him to learn from. It's an experience I'd be very surprised to see happen again.
I don't like the fact that he is cocky and whiny at the same time, so he will have to stop whining all the time, also he better not cut his hair like he did this season and not insult Wenger.
If Pep struggles next season are some going to right him off as well? Anybody can have a bad season.
If he joins, as a manager of Manchester United, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and wish him success in the role. Same as I did for LVG and Moyes.
I couldn't disagree more actually.
Having a balanced midfield isn't a case of having one good at defending, one good at attacking and one good at creating. It's about having players with a balance of all three who compliment each other.
Take Herrera for example, he's not exactly got a pass and move partner there. Schneiderlin isn't a water carrier, he needs a partner to sit alongside him occasionally and Fellaini isn't really a partner to anyone in midfield. He does very little through the middle, his best play comes from feeding off a deep pass and linking up with wide players. Pass wide, attack central.
Herrera and Schneiderlin could work with a player who facilitates them doing a little bit more. Either a partner in crime around the attacking third for Herrera or a player who let's Schneiderlin get forward a bit more and break the play up around the middle rather than deep. That's what he had in Wanayama at Southampton. At the moment he's trying to do what he did at Southampton from deep and it's a bit ugly and a bit risky. Put a proper defensive midfielder behind him and let him do his work further forward and we'll see the best of him.
Schneiderlin, Herrera and Fellaini isn't a case of blending 3 different skillsets and covering all bases, it's an ugly mishmash of styles who don't compliment each other one bit.
That's what I mean though, you can't stand him and that's why you don't want him as manager, he's done some stupid stuff in the past but nothing any worse than this cretin has.
I'll be aghast if he manages to go a whole season without insulting Wenger.
I am in the camp that doesn't want Jose here. I think he's too defensive - but not as bad as LVG. If he came I'd want him to change that. I'd want him to get the team to integrate with technically excellent players in their best positions. I'd want a sound defense of course but I want to be thrilled with our attacking play. I want to see players prepared to take risks. I want a team mentality with players more than willing to stand up for each other. I don't particularly want to see any player or players stand out. I want to see really good passing and movement with lots of "team goals". If Jose can bring that about I would be a convert.
But at least he usually has the results to back that up unlike LVB, he's whiny, arrogant and deluded with shite football and results.
Nothing at all
I will fully support him if/when he takes over. Just like I did Moyes and lvg when they took the job
Three years late. but a sensible appointment.
But you're saying Jose isn't an elite manager even though he's top 1/2 in the world , we know you don't like him but this is nonsense, if Jose isn't elite then does that mean pep is the only one even though he's not proven it in the premier league?
Fair enough,but what if that goalkeeper switch hadn't worked, he would have been a laughing stock but again he got lucky like so many times this season.
Well, yes, that's what I said seven days ago when we still had a chance of getting 4th. I'm not sure what your point actually is here. If you're criticising me for saying that can you prove I'm wrong?
This is very much my thinking. Not his biggest fan but I recognise his qualities. He's a winner full stop.
And he would have my support as United manager.
Fergie finished once in twelfth position after he had finished second in the previous season. Those things happen.
Van Gaal at Barca (second spell) was arguably worse, Klopp last season was very bad too.
It is quite funny though how Twigginater and Randall Flagg pretend that Mourinho has had just a single season as manager in his career, and that he failed miserably there.
Not at all. I've been saying for years that Mourinho is a short term manager who damaged clubs in the long run. Always said that. He's made numerous bad decisions.
This again?
Which clubs has he damaged in the long run (apart from Chelsea this season)
Will you stop supporting United? Could do with you pissing off from here tbh
Chelsea and Inter.
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