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Attacking signings are always exciting but I don't think that's where we need to focus, our midfield is still lacking technically and that needs addressing first, give a better platform for the attack to feed off.
I'd just go for Weigl and Saul to build a 3 man midfield with Pogba, Herrera and Pereira as well as I guess Fellaini to give us the ideal 6 for 3 depth in there.
 

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We need a holding midfield that can dictate games with his passing. Been saying it for ages. Carrick is still our only one able to do that which is probably the biggest problem in our team. Other signings like Varane who Mourinho will probably go for, or Griezmann are nice, but they aren't addressing the problem. Its more Fergie type signings that will improve us just by being better then what we have, rather then fix the hole in the team and have a complete side.
 

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Midfield. Pogba may well turn out to be brilliant but he'll never be the sort of player who runs a game in midfield. He'll also probably be someone whose game sees him playing in quite a free role, necessitating a disciplined midfield around him.

Compared Pogba to Gerrard in the Pogba thread. To keep the comparison going, we now need a Xabi Alonso to help him perform.
 

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We need a full back with genuine attacking quality, skill on the ball, consistent good crosses and dribbling, good linkup play with midfielders and winger.

We need a midfielder with a high basic technique and who's gifted on the ball, a midfielder to raise tempo, create chances by sublime passing.

We need a right winger who can beat a defender, and delivers good crosses.
 

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We need a full back with genuine attacking quality, skill on the ball, consistent good crosses and dribbling, good linkup play with midfielders and winger.

We need a midfielder with a high basic technique and who's gifted on the ball, a midfielder to raise tempo, create chances by sublime passing.

We need a right winger who can beat a defender, and delivers good crosses.
Mkhitaryan could be that RW?
 

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Forget about signings for a minute. This club has spent the better part of half a billion since Fergie's departure, and we've still missing several key pieces, and the squad is still rather underwhelming. Above all, we need a more consistently coherent structure with every player on the same page. You can sign whoever you want, but if the players aren't suited to the system or don't pull off the manager's instructions or half arse things, then all the spending going to be an exercise in futility.

Provided José addresses that aspect, in terms of what we need, starting off with the most crucial positions:

1. Pogba's not an elite box-to-box central midfielder in a two man midfield. Playing him alongside a pseudo-destroyer like Fellaini is a waste of everyone's time because you concede the control of the game to any decent opposition straight off the ball. As for the type of midfield structure we should be building, Juventus under Conte and Allegri offers a decent template (both in the terms of effectiveness and the fact that Pogba was brilliant in the system):
Deeper playmaker + box-to-box midfielder + Pogba:
Pogba playing the position of “mezz’ala” — meaning “half-wing” is already a game changer and has proven in 2016 how wide his skillset is by adding end product to his passing. The Frenchman’s physique combined with his unique press resistance makes him difficult to dispossess and he uses these qualities quite well in moving the ball into the final third. The Frenchman has an aggressive starting position in build up and mainly occupies areas in the final third.
You look at some of the positions he regularly took up at Juventus (LCM), and he was doing the same sort of thing vs City on instinct by advancing up the inside left channel:



We have a decent box-to-box midfielder in Ander (not exactly a Vidal or Gündogan in the position, but he can do a good job once he finds his rhythm). What we're desperately lacking is someone who can control the game like Pirlo and Marchisio did for Juventus, or indeed Carrick did under Fergie (and during the purple patch under Van Gaal where he played as the deepest midfielder behind Ander and Fellaini). We've always had someone who can set the tempo of the game and bring some sort of order to a chaotic match - from Keane to Scholes to Carrick. The most obvious solution are Verratti and Weigl, but why would they move to United at this moment in time? Outside of those two, maybe Parejo?


Or, use a defensive midfielder and sign someone else to become the architect. Either way, someone who can be the 'brain' of the XI has to be signed for this team to build an identity in the center of the park.

2. Center Forward: Odd choice, but we can't rely on Ibrahimović to play every game. Rashford is very raw and young, and still has a lot of development ahead of him, so he might not be ready in time as a full fledged starter. The bad news is that there are very few world class #9 talents around. So unless Rashford reaches a consistently elite standard all of a sudden at an incredibly early age, or someone like Milik or Icardi has a Lewandowski/Costa type 2 year metamorphosis, things don't look to rosy in this department. You just can't expect to compete vs teams that have Suárez/Lewandowski/Agüero/Benzema/Aubameyang without having one of your own - and Zlatan is only going to provide a small 2 year window at anything remotely close to that level. That problem's even more severe when those teams also have the likes of Messi/Bale/Ronaldo and co. flanking said center forward. Or, sign someone like Griezmann to play as the False 9,but that's unlikely to happen under Mourinho given his preference for more traditional #9s.

3. Right back: Need a deputy to Valencia, who'll eventually step up full time into the role. In the absence of standout candidates for the role, João Cancelo makes sense. Or maybe Passlack, but again, Dortmund will likely not sell him. And the player himself might not want to join the club.

These 3 are of utmost importance, IMO. And depending on where you stand on some of ours other players, you could probably add centerback + box-to-box midfield/#10 (insistence on Pogba as a CM) + flank hugging attacker to the list. On the CB front, Thiago Silva's contract expires in 2018, and it hasn't been renewed, so there's that. Much like the midfield area, we need a brain for the defensive line - particularly someone with great passing ability and leadership and elite experience and defensive nous in one package (Blind/Smalling offer one or two, but not all four at once). You've thrown your chips for the young CB quota with the signing of Bailly, so the likes of Giménez don't make as much sense in the absence of a defensive marshal to partner 'em.

Also, in terms of scouting, it's a travesty that clubs sign the likes of Weigl and Kimmich and Guerreiro for great value, while we've spent close to £200 million on the midfield area alone (and it's still a big cause of concern). United has eyewatering revenue levels, but surely the club can aim to do better.
 

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I think the whole "spent so much money" line doesn't really mean much these days when every half-decent player costs at least 20m. Of course, in addition to buying quality players like Pogba, we should have better scouting and recruitment to be able to bring in someone like Weigl when he was at 1860 Munich for under 1m. That goes without saying, however I honestly don't see it as a travesty that we've spent so much money - we've been trying to rebuild a squad after the retirement of the greatest manager in history, and we also need squad players. The fact that players like Schneiderlin and Herrera are in the squad doesn't bother me because I know this is real-life and not FIFA; if Pogba is out for the season I don't really want Sean Goss in there as an automatic starter just for the sake of saying I didn't spend money on squad players. However, I digress.

If Carrick is used this season, and then Schweinsteiger next season, we could have probably been able to put off that #6 midfielder purchase (Verratti/Weigl) until the summer of 2018. We might have been able to focus on Griezmann next summer so that we can play Griezmann behind Ibra with Martial on the left and Mkhitaryan on the right, which will allow Pogba to be able to occupy more advanced spaces since Griezmann is a second-striker and not really a number 10. Which is why behind him we would need Carrick or Schweinsteiger holding.
However, Mourinho obviously doesn't see it the same way and so a holding playmaker in midfield will be a more pressing need next summer than Griezmann.
 

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I think the whole "spent so much money" line doesn't really mean much these days when every half-decent player costs at least 20m. Of course, in addition to buying quality players like Pogba, we should have better scouting and recruitment to be able to bring in someone like Weigl when he was at 1860 Munich for under 1m. That goes without saying, however I honestly don't see it as a travesty that we've spent so much money - we've been trying to rebuild a squad after the retirement of the greatest manager in history, and we also need squad players. The fact that players like Schneiderlin and Herrera are in the squad doesn't bother me because I know this is real-life and not FIFA; if Pogba is out for the season I don't really want Sean Goss in there as an automatic starter just for the sake of saying I didn't spend money on squad players. However, I digress.
That's all fine in terms of establishing a narrative, but there's a bit of a burying one's head in the sand element in that post. United hasn't consistently extracted good value out of our signings over the past 3+ seasons - that's a systemic problem as a pattern starts to emerge, and something has to give (hopefully, the scouring overhaul will help, as will more consistency at the managerial position). Fergie's retirement or cliched and hamfisted arguments about it 'not being FIFA' can only go far, and doesn't really dispel that argument. Even if you brush Weigl aside from Dortmund's recent acquisitions:

Dembélé (arguably as big a talent as Martial, if not bigger according to a lot of French football experts): £12 million
Guerreiro (wouldn't surprise me if he's neck to neck with Shaw over the coming years): £9.5 million
Castro (super versatile and effective in their setup): £8 million
Sokratis: £7 million
Aubameyang: £10 million
etc.

Have they signed duds along the way? Definitely, Immobile and Kampl and co. failed to impress. But they've built most of their current side for peanuts (in relative terms). The term United tax is rather dubious, because no one is actively forcing you to spend £25-30 million on backups when clubs are signings the likes of Vidal, Kroos, Pjanić, Costa, Dybala, Hummels, Griezmann etc. for a comparable amounts of money; and Coman, Bartra, Kimmich, Asensio, Lewandowski, Bernat etc. for sub £10 million fee.

The last time we signed a player who delivered over odds relative to the transfer fee (and might have a long term future at the club) would be Blind. And you'd have to go back almost half a decade for a similar deal with De Gea. Whereas Dortmund could cite Lewandowski, Reus, Kagawa, Gündogan, Sokratis, Aubameyang, Weigl etc. and Bayern could cite Alonso, Costa, Lewandowski, Boateng, Coman, Kimmich, Neuer etc. and Atlético could cite Griezmann, Giménez, Godín, Oblak, Luís, Costa etc. and Juventus could cite Pirlo, Pogba, Tévez, Lichtsteiner, Vidal, Barzagli etc. All those clubs had their fair share of signings that underwhelmed, but in terms of fee vs value/performance and consistently hitting on players to reach a very high level relative to the fee, there's a lot of admire about the way the likes of Bayern and Dortmund and Juventus scout players, and operate in the transfer market (even outside of their Bundesliga/Serie A based signings).
 

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That's all fine in terms of establishing a narrative, but there's a bit of a burying one's head in the sand element in that post. United hasn't consistently extracted good value out of our signings over the past 3+ seasons - that's a systemic problem as a pattern starts to emerge, and something has to give (hopefully, the scouring overhaul will help, as will more consistency at the managerial position). Fergie's retirement or cliched and hamfisted arguments about it 'not being FIFA' can only go far, and doesn't really dispel that argument. Even if you brush Weigl aside from Dortmund's recent acquisitions:

Dembélé (arguably as big a talent as Martial, if not bigger according to a lot of French football experts): £12 million
Guerreiro (wouldn't surprise me if he's neck to neck with Shaw over the coming years): £9.5 million
Castro (super versatile and effective in their setup): £8 million
Sokratis: £7 million
Aubameyang: £10 million
etc.

Have they signed duds along the way? Definitely, Immobile and Kampl and co. failed to impress. But they've built most of their current side for peanuts (in relative terms). The term United tax is rather dubious, because no one is actively forcing you to spend £25-30 million on backups when clubs are signings the likes of Vidal, Kroos, Pjanić, Costa, Dybala, Hummels, Griezmann etc. for a comparable amounts of money; and Coman, Bartra, Kimmich, Asensio, Lewandowski, Bernat etc. for sub £10 million fee.

The last time we signed a player who delivered over odds relative to the transfer fee (and might have a long term future at the club) would be Blind. And you'd have to go back almost half a decade for a similar deal with De Gea. Whereas Dortmund could cite Lewandowski, Reus, Kagawa, Gündogan, Sokratis, Aubameyang, Weigl etc. and Bayern could cite Alonso, Costa, Lewandowski, Boateng, Coman, Kimmich, Neuer etc. and Atlético could cite Griezmann, Giménez, Godín, Oblak, Luís, Costa etc. and Juventus could cite Pirlo, Pogba, Tévez, Lichtsteiner, Vidal, Barzagli etc. All those clubs had their fair share of signings that underwhelmed, but in terms of fee vs value/performance and consistently hitting on players to reach a very high level relative to the fee, there's a lot of admire about the way the likes of Bayern and Dortmund and Juventus scout players, and operate in the transfer market (even outside of their Bundesliga/Serie A based signings).
I agree with most of that. I never denied that we needed better scouting and recruitment.

I just disagreed with the notion that we should have viewed players like Herrera and Schneiderlin as the automatic top-quality starters and replacements for Scholes and Carrick. We as a club, should never have analyzed them in that light and we as fans should have known that those players lack the quality to be the permanent fixes in our midfield that were needed. My main gripe is that I don't think we should say "Schneiderlin was bought as Carrick's replacement, he's not good enough, complete waste of money". I think we really needed players at that time and just because they might become good back-ups players instead of the first XI starters the club or fans wrongly expected them to be, doesn't mean they're complete wastes of money. We were building from a lower level back then and now that we're aiming higher we should look to bring in higher quality players to be the permanent solutions in midfield that we still don't have.

In summary, I agree that we need more Weigl and Dembele (who I'm obsessed with) purchases, and better scouting to spend less money on young players who have endless more potential than the likes of Herrera or Schneiderlin will ever have. I just don't like to characterize every non-automatic starter as a complete waste of money. That also doesn't mean that Mourinho doesn't have a huge job on his hands trying to get them to play as a cohesive team and in integrated tactical systems as a unit.

In addition, I do believe that one of the most important factors in getting us to that kind of scouting and recruitment level is stability, especially at managerial level, and hopefully that helps in that regard for the coming years.

I hope that makes more sense.
 

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This is what I suggested in the Griezmann thread.

Could do the diamond.

De Gea

Valencia - Bailly - Smalling - Shaw

DM

CM - Pogba

Griezmann

Ibrahimovic/Rashford - Martial​
It's not too dissimilar to the 3-5-2 Juventus uses and it would get the best out of Pogba and Griezmann. I think we have options for the right-sided CM spot in Herrera, Schneiderlin and Fosu-Mensah, but we could also sign players like Saul, Koke, Goretzka or Tolisso for that role. Tolisso can also be the player who controls the game for us, as he has a good passing range and in general is very good passer IMO. He's also played the holding midfield role for Lyon quite well. Fellaini can perhaps make the DM spot his own. It's not something I expect him to do, but so far he's done well. Paredes from Roma could be another option there, apart from the obvious ones like Weigl.

As for your second point, I don't think we need to sign a new striker. It's Martial's best position and also his favourite. Milik or Icardi wouldn't be an improvement in this moment of time. I certainly would trust Martial and Rashford to take over from Ibrahimovic following his 2 year stint.

I agree with the third point and also who you've chosen. Other options could be Sidibe from Monaco and Ricardo Pereira from Nice.

That's all fine in terms of establishing a narrative, but there's a bit of a burying one's head in the sand element in that post. United hasn't consistently extracted good value out of our signings over the past 3+ seasons - that's a systemic problem as a pattern starts to emerge, and something has to give (hopefully, the scouring overhaul will help, as will more consistency at the managerial position). Fergie's retirement or cliched and hamfisted arguments about it 'not being FIFA' can only go far, and doesn't really dispel that argument. Even if you brush Weigl aside from Dortmund's recent acquisitions:

Dembélé (arguably as big a talent as Martial, if not bigger according to a lot of French football experts): £12 million
Guerreiro (wouldn't surprise me if he's neck to neck with Shaw over the coming years): £9.5 million
Castro (super versatile and effective in their setup): £8 million
Sokratis: £7 million
Aubameyang: £10 million
etc.

Have they signed duds along the way? Definitely, Immobile and Kampl and co. failed to impress. But they've built most of their current side for peanuts (in relative terms). The term United tax is rather dubious, because no one is actively forcing you to spend £25-30 million on backups when clubs are signings the likes of Vidal, Kroos, Pjanić, Costa, Dybala, Hummels, Griezmann etc. for a comparable amounts of money; and Coman, Bartra, Kimmich, Asensio, Lewandowski, Bernat etc. for sub £10 million fee.

The last time we signed a player who delivered over odds relative to the transfer fee (and might have a long term future at the club) would be Blind. And you'd have to go back almost half a decade for a similar deal with De Gea. Whereas Dortmund could cite Lewandowski, Reus, Kagawa, Gündogan, Sokratis, Aubameyang, Weigl etc. and Bayern could cite Alonso, Costa, Lewandowski, Boateng, Coman, Kimmich, Neuer etc. and Atlético could cite Griezmann, Giménez, Godín, Oblak, Luís, Costa etc. and Juventus could cite Pirlo, Pogba, Tévez, Lichtsteiner, Vidal, Barzagli etc. All those clubs had their fair share of signings that underwhelmed, but in terms of fee vs value/performance and consistently hitting on players to reach a very high level relative to the fee, there's a lot of admire about the way the likes of Bayern and Dortmund and Juventus scout players, and operate in the transfer market (even outside of their Bundesliga/Serie A based signings).
To be fair a lot of our signings simply haven't worked out the way we hoped they would. Schneiderlin was far better for Southampton. Memphis was probably the best player in the Eredivisie during his last year. Herrera was one of the best midfield players outside of Real and Barcelona towards the end of his time at Athletic. Mata has been productive for us, but not quite as good as he was at Chelsea. Schweinsteiger even while declining was a lot better for Munich than for us. Di Maria.

The pattern I see is the lack of overall plan on how to use those players and not trusting your new signings. What's the point of buying Schneiderlin, Herrera, Mata and di Maria, if you are not going to play them in their best position. The same thing could be happening with Mkhitaryan and Pogba. Pogba could turn out to be a great player deeper in a few years time, but currently he should definitely be used further forward.
 

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CF: Cavani/Benzema
Winger: Marco Reus
CM: Vidal/Martinez/Witsel/Matudi/Niag (2 out of the 5)
CB: Thiago Silva isn't extending for PSG from what I heard in 2018.
RB: Danilo/Fabinho

2017-18 Mourinho United Team

Reus-Cavani/Benz-Martial
Pogba
Matudi-Witsel/Naig
Shaw-Silva-Bailey-Danilo/Fabinho
DDG

Bench: Zlatan, Rashford, Phil Jones, Mhit, Morgan, Herrera, Valencia, Smalling

Sell: Mata, Fellaini, and Rooney (since everyone wants him out), Bastian, Lingard, Blind
Maybe sell Mkit too
 

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CF: Cavani/Benzema
Winger: Marco Reus
CM: Vidal/Martinez/Witsel/Matudi/Niag (2 out of the 5)
CB: Thiago Silva isn't extending for PSG from what I heard in 2018.
RB: Danilo/Fabinho

2017-18 Mourinho United Team

Reus-Cavani/Benz-Martial
Pogba
Matudi-Witsel/Naig
Shaw-Silva-Bailey-Danilo/Fabinho
DDG

Bench: Zlatan, Rashford, Phil Jones, Mhit, Morgan, Herrera, Valencia, Smalling

Sell: Mata, Fellaini, and Rooney (since everyone wants him out), Bastian, Lingard, Blind
Maybe sell Mkit too
Martial doesn't play on the right. Benzema won't leave Madrid. Cavani is shit. Danilo is also shit. Vidal is past his best. Martinez is injury prone. Witsel isn't good enough.
 

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Really really liked Pulisic the two times I have seen him play. Could be an excellent addition for our right side. Looks like an excellent old fashioned winger.
 

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We need a holding midfielder, playmaker, a winger that can actually run and a centre half.
 

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Our play is too one dimensional, just like it was last season.
Last season we looked Martial down the left to cut in and shoot or lay off for someone else to take the shot. It was too left sided, no use of right flank and at times oppisition teams nullified us as it was so predictable where the ball was going.

Only this time, it's changed to the other side. Valencia has looked on form, Martial looks like he's going through motions. Hence we rely too much on cross from the right flank.

Absolutely no attack or chances created down the middle. No one touch play, no incisive passing. We need to make our play a bit more unpredictable.

And we need to bin our current No.10.
 

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Every year we apparently need half a new squad. Having too many bought players who have barely played together is one of the main problems within the team. I think we need a right back and maybe a CM in two years.
 

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Every year we apparently need half a new squad. Having too many bought players who have barely played together is one of the main problems within the team. I think we need a right back and maybe a CM in two years.
So you're suggesting we don't strengthen the squad for the next 3 transfer windows? We still have too much dreck around so that will need addressing, then we need a playmaker to replace Carrick, after that we should see how the flanks shape up.
 

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The more you think about what we need, the more sense signing someone like Koke makes. José often likes to switch between a 4-2-3-1, 4-5-1 and 4-3-3 depending on the opposition, and a versatile midfielder like Koke could really take our midfield to the next level.

He can play as:
The central midfielder who pulls the strings for his team:


As a 'defensive' attacking midfielder:
http://www.atleticofans.com/27165/koke-become-spains-best-attacking-midfielder/

As the wide left midfielder:


As the wide right midfielder:


As the right sided CM:


As the left sided CM:

This is an incredibly active unit on and off the ball:

-----Pogba---------------------Ander-----
------------------Koke---------------------

You could switch it around to:

------------------Pogba--------------------
--------Koke------------------Ander------

or this:

-------------------Koke--------------------
-------Pogba--------------------Ander----

or this:

----------------------------------------RW
--Koke-------Pogba--------Ander--------

or this:

LW----------------------------------------
----------Pogba--------Ander-------Koke

Signing him from Atlético will be very, very, very difficult given his loyalty and status at the club, but if United can pull it off: he's superb from a tactical point of view, robust, works really hard for the team, shows some leadership potential, can press and pass vertically, is entering his peak in his mid 20s, very experienced despite his youth (including the Liga win and 2 CL finals and Europa League title), one of the best in Europe for wide free kicks and corners, and has a reasonable €65m clause.
 

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The more you think about what we need, the more sense signing someone like Koke makes. José often likes to switch between a 4-2-3-1, 4-5-1 and 4-3-3 depending on the opposition, and a versatile midfielder like Koke could really take our midfield to the next level.

He can play as:
The central midfielder who pulls the strings for his team:


As a 'defensive' attacking midfielder:
http://www.atleticofans.com/27165/koke-become-spains-best-attacking-midfielder/

As the wide left midfielder:


As the wide right midfielder:


As the right sided CM:


As the left sided CM:

This is an incredibly active unit on and off the ball:

-----Pogba---------------------Ander-----
------------------Koke---------------------

You could switch it around to:

------------------Pogba--------------------
--------Koke------------------Ander------

or this:

-------------------Koke--------------------
-------Pogba--------------------Ander----

or this:

----------------------------------------RW
--Koke-------Pogba--------Ander--------

or this:

LW----------------------------------------
----------Pogba--------Ander-------Koke

Signing him from Atlético will be very, very, very difficult given his loyalty and status at the club, but if United can pull it off: he's superb from a tactical point of view, robust, works really hard for the team, shows some leadership potential, can press and pass vertically, is entering his peak in his mid 20s, very experienced despite his youth (including the Liga win and 2 CL finals and Europa League title), one of the best in Europe for wide free kicks and corners, and has a reasonable €65m clause.
Would be a dream signing. Seems unrealistic but so did Pogba

Pogba and Koke running the midfield for the next 7+ years :drool: He's been linked to Chelsea in the past when Mou was there I think

He'll probably go to Barca with that cheap clause
 

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Serge Aurier for RB would be a dream signing. He is one of the best RB in the world.
Koulibaly/ Van Dijk for LCB as we need a ball playing centre back next to Bailly.
Julian Weigl- A deep-lying playmaker to pull the strings.
 

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Don't think we NEED any signings ti challenge. But is wouldn't mind starti n g to replace some of the fringe players with better quality preparing for the future.

RW to replace young
RB to replace darmian
CM to replace Carrick
 

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I think the team we need to improve on is:

Martial Zlatan Henrik
Pogba Ander
Carrick
Shaw Blind/Smalling Bailly Vale
DdG
GK: Nothing much to say here.

RB: We need to find a replacement for Valencia. Difficult to find good attacking right-backs though.
CB: Bailly looks like a great player and he is only 22. Blind is a good player, but i still have worries about his lack of athleticism and height. I think defenders should be good on the ball nowadays, specially for a club like Manchester United and Smalling is not very good in that aspect. It's not the most important position to strenghten, but i think we could do with a new one. Laporte/Van Dijk/Koulibaly would be good choices i guess.
LB: Shaw is our present and future LB.

DM: Extremely important that we find a replacement for Carrick. Would like to see if Blind could make it his position. I remember the spell he had as the DM under LvG in his first season here and he didn't do well, but i thought some of that what down to a lack of protection from the CM's. Weigl/Jorginho/Gonalons could be option here.

CM: Pogba is a nailed on starter. Herrera i'm not sure about still, we will have to see how he do this year. I think good partners to Pogba would be Strootman/Saul.

RW: Mkhitaryan is a class player and when he finally gets a run in the side i think he will show it. Not a typical right winger, but if given freedom to drift inside he will show his quality.
LW: I believe Martial will find his form soon, we know what he can do and i hope he will show it soon. I don't think we need to buy big here, maybe some decent competition if Memphis leaves.

CF: Zlatan will probably stay for 2 years and when he leaves we have Rashford to take over from him.

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We certainly have a good team. Some will have to show that they deserve to be starters for us next year and if they can't we will have to buy a few new ones.
 

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I think what we need is a ball-playing CB. Blind has been good but, as the previous poster said, he is missing that height. If we bring someone in like that we have a potentially world-class CB partnership.

Then we can just move Blind up into the DM position. He's showed himself to be so intelligent in two positions and isn't intelligence what DM is about? I think he deserves a chance there at the least.

Everywhere else seems fine. Pogba and Mata can be brilliant (maybe the Leicester game is clouding my judgment). Martial-Ibra-Mkhitaryan is very good too, though Martial has to improve his form ans have to wait for Mkhitaryan to show what he can do in this team.

DDG
Valencia Bailly New Shaw
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Pogba and Herrera should be first choice box-to-box players in a 4-3-3, so we need to find a partner for them.

Someone with great positioning who can give us greater balance and security while also being capable of moving the ball forward and dictating play. No idea who though.
 

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Pogba and Herrera should be first choice box-to-box players in a 4-3-3, so we need to find a partner for them.

Someone with great positioning who can give us greater balance and security while also being capable of moving the ball forward and dictating play. No idea who though.
I agree. That type of player should be out number 1 priority. Jorginho may not be a bad shout. He seems calm on the ball, always looks to make himself available for the ball and has good positioning in defensive scenarios.
 

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Agree with your overall post @YouOnlyLiveTwice

The CB situation is interesting, I'm not sure the Bailly/Smalling partnership is ideal given neither are great on the ball, but until we've seen the season through it's hard to say if we'd be looking to spunk the kinda money needed for a Laporte. I also wonder if TFM might get some runs out at CB, so this one is hard to say.

I think we have 3 key areas to strengthen, the most obvious being the need to replace Carrick with a quality #6, and while I like Valencia at RB he will be 32 next season and we have no one actively competing with him for the role, so we need a RB. Last but not least I think Januzaj, Young and Memphis will be out the door and we can add another wide attacker who favours the RW.

#6 - Weigl/Neves
RB - Cancelo/Cedric
RW - Lemar/Carrasco/Pulisic/Ounas/
 
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De Gea, Romero
Bailly, Blind, Shaw
Mkhi, Herrera, Pogba, Mata, Martial
Zlatan, Rashford

Not a formation or anything, but I wouldn't say no to getting rid of anyone I've not named. For me these are the only players good enough to start for Manchester United.

Fosu Mensah maybe as a midfielder, but never a defender. Switches off positionally too much.
 

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I might be over estimating things or being overly optimisitic, and I do think another RB and winger are needed for the squad, but I see a core 11 developing nicely with 3 signings to upgrade and complete a well balanced first 11. We will hopefully also see Pereira and TFM intergrated further into the senior squad over the next 18 months.

 

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GK - De Gea, Romero
RB - Valencia, Darmian
RCB - Smalling, TFM
LCB - Bailly, Rojo
LB - Shaw, CBJ
DM - Blind, Fellaini
B2B - Herrera, Schneiderlin
AM - Pogba, Rooney
RW - Mata, Rashford
LW - Mkhitaryan, Young
CF - Martial, Ibrahimovic

Sell everyone else.

Buy upgrades, if they're available, for:
Romero, Darmian, Rojo, Fellaini, Schneiderlin, Young, Ibrahimovic

Preferably, all the upgrades will have enough quality to overtake the current first choices. But even if not, I'd still be happy with that squad next season. There's more than enough to work with.
 

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Benjamin Henrichs from Leverkusen could be another interesting option for the right-back spot.
 

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Benjamin Henrichs from Leverkusen could be another interesting option for the right-back spot.
Good call, he was good against Spurs and has been bright the few times I've seen Levrkusen this season, can play either side as well I believe.
 

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We need to sign a few attacking players. As when teams know you got a lot of great attacking players they will tend to sit back even if we had Rojo and Blind.

I remember the season we sold Stam. We didn't have a great defence, but our attack was brilliant that year. Every game was entertaining.

City and Liverpool don't have great defences, but try to out score teams.
 

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Balotelli the name to scout if Zlatan s form is still not improve
 

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Do you really think that De Gea will stay if we're not in Champions League once again ? I don't

Then I would buy a new right back, a new central defender, a new central midfielder, a new winger and possibly a new striker

Aurier is a modern RB, but he's loved in PSG so I don't think that can happen
Koulibaly is a Mourinho type of defender, I would jump on him this winter
Koke is the dream midfielder. Maybe with an insane offer....
Reus is to me one of the last winger 'avalaible' he would be perfect for us

-------------------------------------De Gea------------------------------------
Aurier-----------------------Bailly---------Koulibaly-------------------Shaw
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Reus----------------------------------------------------------------Mkhitaryan
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I think the first thing we need to do is to make sure that we've got a team of 22 players (11 first teamer + 11 cover/competitor) that can be relied on and were everyone plays in his natural role. No more wingbacks as RB, midfielders in defense, no 10s and AMC as DMs, LBs as CBs, Strikers on the flanks and in CM. Secondly we start getting rid of players who, year after year, had failed to reach the required expectations. I am referring to players like Jones, Rojo, Young, Depay and co. Finally we get rid of players, who are on huge salaries, and who aren't good enough anymore. Players like Rooney, Ibra, Carrick and Bastian.

My team would be

GK: DDG, Romero
RB: Aurier, Valencia
CB: Bailly, Smalling, Gimenez, some kid
LB: Shaw, Blind, Rojo

DM: Wiegl/Neves, Drinkwater
Box to Box: Pogba, Schneiderlin
Playmaker: Herrera, Isco

AMR: O Dembele, Mata
AML: Mkhitaryan, Guedes, Young

STK: Rashford, Vardy, Martial
 
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