Wow if that happens, will be something to watch. Pretty sure Whyte can cause problems for Deontay with his body shots. The trouble with Wilder is he has that one punch KO power and i can see Whyte walking into a big right. Never know though!
Wow . Hope he goes to the states. He's an amazing talent. Would love a 3rd fight with LSC at some point. I think he's the best British boxer out there.
Yeah I was wondering that tbh. I always had a feeling he was too invested in Manny to be of much use to others - dunno, even though Manny has been effectively retired for years (caring about boxing) if you know what I mean.
Yeah, literally if you look at his record with every fighter the last 8-10 years he's pretty much only taken on established fighters and either they got worse or at best they stagnated. Think he got very lucky with Pacquaio and has made his name off of that.
Also, the language barrier. Not sure they speak English.
I can't see this to be honest especially as there's rumours of a contract in the US.
Yeah, they really dropped the ball on the Santa Cruz thing. Santa Cruz cried foul (even though he was beaten clearly) because it was in NYC, so gets the fight in Vegas which is very close to home. For them not to have clause in place for a third fight was a joke since you knew Santa Cruz being an Al Haymon fighter (further up their food chain than Frampton) wasn't signing off on a third especially in UK or Ireland. There may be more to it than that but on paper it looks bad.
Both good action fights. Vargas is trained by Nacho Beristain and is huge for that weight. He is skilled. Rios is a local guy to me and usually makes good action.
It will be. 100%.
Probably knew how many levels ahead he was and how easy it was really. I'm sure he trained properly for it but I'd guess he knew he never had to get out of 2nd gear.
Skills wise, one of the best ever. Overall, still an ATG, but not in the conversation for Tier 1 greatness.
Totally agreed.
Skills and talent he's very high, resume he's a bit lacking of the absolute greatest. I say anywhere from 30-50 is a fair ranking. I personally did my top 100 all-time recently (it's in this thread) and placed him 45. I think had he fought Pacquaio around 2010-2012 and won clearly and taken on a few more challenges at the right time he could have been top 25-30.
Couldn't fault your list at the time and that rationale is on point too.
You cannot stand Mayweather.
He doesn't compare to other all time greats, he never even fought an ATG fighter in their prime. His signature wins were against De La Hoya (well past it), Pacquiao (well past it) and Corrales (a good but not great fighter in the context of history). Enough said.
I think Canelo will beat him. Neither have looked brilliant in their last couple of fights but I just think it's a timing thing and where as Canelo has fought fighters way out his league and not looked brilliant I think it's age catching up with GGG now.
Exactomundo. Outside of a few, such as SRR, Ali, Leonard, Pep, Duran and a few others whom I'd put right at the top, these lists are almost meaningless. They're quite fun I guess, and each to their own, but aside from being a source of amusement and debate , they're really not that important.
He's top 10 imo but 9th or 10th.Sorry lads, but I think it's laughable how hip it is to underrate Mayweathers achievements in the ring. The usual arguments about avoiding fighters, purse splits etc etc. So easy to pull up P4p lists that just love to exclude him. To not even have him top 20 ??? Are you kidding me?!
It's a very good list, with the exception of Ali being a bit too far down for my liking.
Also a 22 year old Canelo and Hatton undefeated in 44? professional fights. He fought what was in front of him. You can't diminish his achievements. I think he'd have beaten Pacquiao in 2009.
