Borden
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Clearly an instance of ignorance and not racism. He's clearly not the brightest dude. Expect the twitterverse to explode in a tsunami of indignant fury though.
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According to this thread, it not only makes you racist, but staggeringly stupid and ignorant.If I don't find this racist, does that mean I'm racist?
SureIf I don't find this racist, does that mean I'm racist?
I hope this is sarcastic.I really do pity caucasian people these days, can't do something innocently without the sins of people in the past whom you've no connection to, coming back to bite you.
"Put some pants, you midget."?I'm confused. Educate me before we go any further. Him dressing up as a black basketball player says what to you?
Yeah that's what I think.Clearly an instance of ignorance and not racism. He's clearly not the brightest dude. Expect the twitterverse to explode in a tsunami of indignant fury though.
That was directed at Griezmann, not any of the posters here, so don't get your knickers in a twist.According to this thread, it not only makes you racist, but staggeringly stupid and ignorant.
Because he wanted to look like a basketball player.That was directed at Griezmann, not any of the posters here, so don't get your knickers in a twist.
Unlike some posters here who are genuinely unfamiliar with this, Griezmann obviously isn't or why dress up like this?
Your right. Fifa should ban Griezmann, racist scum.How are there English adults on here claiming to either not know what blackface is or not knowing its offensive? and people have the nerve to mock the intelligence of the posters on Bluemoon. Truly embarrassing.
I don't understand you? Only a black person plays basketball?!Because he wanted to look like a basketball player.
Really ?I really do pity caucasian people these days, can't do something innocently without the sins of people in the past whom you've no connection to, coming back to bite you.
That sentence is amazing. I mean, Larry Bird was a basketball player and not a bad one.Because he wanted to look like a basketball player.
I think Griezmann did this out of more ignorance than hate but, the whole "he has black friends" defense is never a good defense. There is people with black spouses and kids who still have racist views.Griezmann is really stupid there but I doubt he meant any harm.
I know I'm gonna get flamed for this ("he has black friends, not racist etc etc")but Griezmann seems to hang out with a lot of black dudes and is insanely into Black American culture for reason. I follow him on snapchat and Instagram. So I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.
At the end of the day though, black face in a historical context is racism. I don't see the debate in this.
Yeah kinda, 75% of NBA players are black. When most people think of a basketball player they think of a black person.I don't understand you? Only a black person plays basketball?!
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I realize that. But in this case, I don't believe Griezmann meant any harm.I think Griezmann did this out of more ignorance than hate but, the whole "he has black friends" defense is never a good defense. There is people with black spouses and kids who still have racist views.
Yeah those caucasions are so oppressed, not being able to go out of there way way to offend minoritiesI really do pity caucasian people these days, can't do something innocently without the sins of people in the past whom you've no connection to, coming back to bite you.
There was plenty of White NBA All Stars in the 80s. And he could dress up like a black NBA player without resorting to blackface.Yeah kinda, 75% of NBA players are black. When most people think of a basketball player they think of a black person.
What do you mean by this? Do you genuinely think there's a small chance that Griezmann feels he's superior to black people? (Being racist that is )Griezmann is really stupid there but I doubt he meant any harm.
I know I'm gonna get flamed for this ("he has black friends, not racist etc etc")but Griezmann seems to hang out with a lot of black dudes and is insanely into Black American culture for whatever reason. I follow him on snapchat and Instagram. So I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.
At the end of the day though, black face in a historical context is racism. I don't see the debate in this.
I find it hard to believe there are people in these times that aren't aware of it tbh, I figured the history of racial discrimination was covered in education worldwide. The reason I, a POC, don't find this as offensive as others (although I understand the outrage) is probably due to the fact that this isn't based on stereotypes (huge lips, jet black skin, etc) and so I don't view it as him mocking black people. Assuming he's picked out a specific black basketballer, this looks to me like him just attempting to look as similar as he can to them (his skin tone and features aren't exaggerated in a way most blackfaces were). He isn't the brightest of people, but his intentions here seem pretty innocent. The context of it being for a costume party does make a difference too. It's not as if this was a film where they overlooked black actors in favour of blackface white actors, or AG has stated that he's now black, so the link to the past isn't very strong. Obviously, not everyone feels the same way, but this is more plain stupid than racist to me. Although, if he's just dressing up as a generic basketball player, then racism would come into it.How are people here so stupid, do you know the history of blackface and what it represents, stop acting like there is nothing wrong with this
Exactly. I can’t believe what went through his mind here.That sentence is amazing. I mean, Larry Bird was a basketball player and not a bad one.
Exactly.All of this could have been avoided if he had simply put on the outfit and fake afro. Everyone would have known what his costume was.
I don't think Greizmann is racist for putting on black face (even though in a historical context, it represents white supremacy and the dehumanization of black people), thats what I mean by giving him some leeway. He should just apologize for it and move on.What do you mean by this? Do you genuinely think there's a small chance that Griezmann feels he's superior to black people? (Being racist that is )
Jerry West. Dirk Nowitzki. Brian Scalabrine.That sentence is amazing. I mean, Larry Bird was a basketball player and not a bad one.
I agree with you man. I'm just disappointed at comments from people saying 'I don't find this racist' about something clearly not about them. Also at the people who not only can't see why painting your skin dark in this context could be racist but can't even look up online why this could be offensive instead of posting they don't understand. I'm not offended by this on a personal level myself, but I am empathetic towards people who would be because I know why. Ignorance is dumb (Griezmann) but then to see even more ignorance after he has been called out.. that is just pathetic.I find it hard to believe there are people in these times that aren't aware of it tbh, I figured the history of racial discrimination was covered in education worldwide. The reason I, a POC, don't find this as offensive as others (although I understand the outrage) is probably due to the fact that this isn't based on stereotypes (huge lips, jet black skin, etc) and so I don't view it as him mocking black people. Assuming he's picked out a specific black basketballer, this looks to me like him just attempting to look as similar as he can to them (his skin tone and features aren't exaggerated in a way most blackfaces were). He isn't the brightest of people, but his intentions here seem pretty innocent. The context of it being for a costume party does make a difference too. It's not as if this was a film where they overlooked black actors in favour of blackface white actors, or AG has stated that he's now black, so the link to the past isn't very strong. Obviously, not everyone feels the same way, but this is more plain stupid than racist to me. Although, if he's just dressing up as a generic basketball player, then racism would come into it.