Ronaldo debut vs Rooney debut vs Macheda debut vs Januzaj debut vs Rashford debut vs Martial debut..

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Just thinking back this morning that these were some of the moments that stand out as having given me the most euphoric feeling at the end of the game in recent times. All forward players, all teenagers, and with the exception of Ronaldo - all scored at least one, and in spectacular style.

Rank them in terms of how they had you feeling at the time.
 

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That's easy...

1. Macheda
2. Rooney
3. Januzaj
4. Ronaldo
 

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I would add a couple of other debuts in that I was very excited about at the time....Giggs and Cantona. You could see their quality / potential straightaway.
 

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It’s tough for me.

A part of me is leaning towards Adnan. He was just a breath of fresh air just when we needed him. He was hope.

The couple of months that followed were pretty crazy too, with the drama about his contract and what country he would represent. We could have cashed in on him for a pretty penny then, but at the time, the implication of losing him would have been similar to when Rooney strong-armed us into that ridiculous 5 year deal. We were at our weakest, and losing players we want to keep at that stage would have sent a terrible message.
 

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Macheda felt like a bit of a flash in the pan at the time, and so it proved to be. I felt a bit that way about Rashford as well but hopefully that's not the case (he's already achieved much more than Macheda)

Januzaj I never really rated.

Rooney was already proven quality (although very young) when he came although I remember being surprised just how accomplished he was for his age.

Ronaldo was the one for me - you could see even in that cameo debut as a sub that he oozed quality. Giggs and Cantona were the other two which paralleled his entrance for me.
 

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1. Rooney: Hatrick on debut with a splendid free-kick. Don’t get much better than that.

2. Macheda: Winning goal to help lead us to the title. Better than Rooneys in terms of importance, but he faded after and Rooney laid down the mark of what was to come in a stellar career.

3. Rashford:2 goals on debut, 2 goals on PL debut vs Arsenal.

4: Januzaj: 2 goals on PL debut, great achievement but not just behind the 3 above.

5. Ronaldo: Looked an unbelievable talent and I was so excited. Beckham replacement, new number 7 and the name Ronaldo.
 
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Ronaldo was the one for me - you could see even in that cameo debut as a sub that he oozed quality. Giggs and Cantona were the other two which paralleled his entrance for me.
Not being funny but how can you have Ronaldo above Rooney. He scored a hatrick, you don’t get much better than that.
 

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1. Rooney: Hatrick on debut with a splendid free-kick. Don’t get much better than that.

2. Macheda: Winning goal to help lead us to the title. Better than Rooneys in terms of importance, but he faded after and Rooney laid down the mark of what was to come in a stellar career.

3. Ronaldo: Looked an unbelievable talent and I was so excited. Beckham replacement, new number 7 and the name Ronaldo.

4: Came on vs wigan with 6 minutes to play, cameo appearance so not exactly an amazing debut.
I’m referring to Januzaj’s first start away at Sunderland.
 

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Is there anyway I can edit the thread title? Just realised I had forgotten Martial and Rashford in there.
 

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Not being funny but how can you have Ronaldo above Rooney. He scored a hatrick, you don’t get much better than that.
Rooney goals aside didn't do anything in his debut we didn't see him do against France or Croatia in Euro 2004

Ronaldo's debut was something I hadn't seen ever at that point from an 18 year old most had never heard of
 

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Ronaldo for me. Seeing him that day and knowing I'd witnessed a very special talent.

Rooney was a brilliant debut but I was always looking for that same level of talent in him. He was more force and application as well as being freakishly developed for a teenager
 

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Rooney goals aside didn't do anything in his debut we didn't see him do against France or Croatia in Euro 2004

Ronaldo's debut was something I hadn't seen ever at that point from an 18 year old most had never heard of

So because he was a great youngster before his debut it means his debut for us shouldn’t be recognised as great? Nonsense. What other 18 year old has scored a hatrick on his debut for this club?

We haven’t even had a hatrick for the club in about 4 years to put it into perspective.

Ronaldo looked a great talent for Sporting. People who watch football new he was special just like Rooney. Doesn’t take away what Rooney achieved in that CL game.
 

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So because he was a great youngster before his debut it means his debut for us shouldn’t be recognised as great? Nonsense. What other 18 year old has scored a hatrick on his debut for this club?

We haven’t even had a hatrick for the club in about 4 years to put it into perspective.

Ronaldo looked a great talent for Sporting. People who watch football new he was special just like Rooney. Doesn’t take away what Rooney achieved in that CL game.
You asked me a question as to why I put Ronaldo's debut over Rooney's, I answered it. If you cant fathom that people experience things in a different way to yourself interacting with other people might not be for you
 

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Literally forgot januzaj entire debut. Seem to have erased that whole season from my memory :lol:

Rooney easily wins. So much hype, then scores a brilliant hat trick.

Ronaldo's was great too. Destroyed Bolton.

Januzaj 3rd, gutted he didn't work out. His debut and first few months in general made him look a cert to be a star, and I still think if Fergie was in charge he could've made him into one. His career took a wrong turn and was downhill though. Watched highlights of his debut and remembered how amazing it was.

Martials 4th because of all the hype, scores a beauty but shows his brilliance too and wasn't a stroke of luck.

Rashford 5th. Thought he'd be just a random youngster at the right place at the right time type thing, and wouldn't amount to all that much but just had a great start with some unsustainable but great finishing. Obviously the finishing part was true but he has turned into a good player but with huge potential now.

Macheda 6th. Any youngster can score screamers, his was perfectly timed and amazing for our season but in terms of himself as a player, never looked like much to me.
 

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Rooney Hat-trick on debut in Europe
Kiko that touch, turn and shot. Thought it was a start of something special
Januzaj turned the match around from 1-0 down to a 2-1 win
Ronaldo exiting debit but did look a bit like a show pony as well
 

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Thread title edited to include Rashford and Martial.

For me, I’d say;

1. Ronaldo debut
2. Rooney debut
3. Macheda debut
4. Martial debut
5. Januzaj debut
6. Rashford debut
 

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You asked me a question as to why I put Ronaldo's debut over Rooney's, I answered it. If you cant fathom that people experience things in a different way to yourself interacting with other people might not be for you

A few flair runs and a bit of skill beats a hatrick on a debut. Jesus christ.

People have these opinions of Ronaldo because of how good he was in his final few seasons at United and how good he became.
 

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Macheda’s for how I felt about it at the time. It was an incredibly frustrating game and then the release when it curled in is in my top few United moments.

Rooney’s was obviously the most impressive, especially as the midfield he was in front of was Giggs - Djemba x2 - Kleberson - Bellion.
 

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A few flair runs and a bit of skill beats a hatrick on a debut. Jesus christ.

People have these opinions of Ronaldo because of how good he was in his final few seasons at United and how good he became.
I think you are being unfair. It’s not rational or logical the way people react to these things.

With Ronaldo, I think a main part of what made it so special is that fans dreams could be limitless. It was a different time then - and he hadn’t come from the PL or our academy where many would have seen him loads.

You must remember, by the time everyone else on this list made their United debut, many people already had an opinion of them. An idea of how good they think they could be etc. With Ronnie, we were given a blank cheque after Bolton and told to dream as far as we wanted, as we had seen the least of him. Even the likes of Martial, many had seen in France and CL, and that was in the height of the YouTube era. Adnan, Rashford and Macheda came from the academy and many would have probably thought they were not that special anyway even before their debut.
 

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A few flair runs and a bit of skill beats a hatrick on a debut. Jesus christ.

People have these opinions of Ronaldo because of how good he was in his final few seasons at United and how good he became.
Again interacting with other people, you might want to give it up. Please don't try and tell me why I think something, I know what I saw when we played Sporting in pre-season, I know how excited I was when it was announced during a Sky phone in show they used to do in 2004 that we were signing him and I know how I felt watching his debut.

Someone earlier in the thread said about including Rashford and Martial's debut in this conversation and I'd rate Macheda's over theirs so no bias towards what went after said debut
 

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1. Macheda... not because I thought he would end up as a great player, or even a good one. It was easily the most important contribution though in any debut I can remember. Liverpool were top of the league and fighting with us for the title. Both of us level on 18 league titles. We desperately needed that win against Villa... none of the other debuts come even close to the importance of that goal.

If any United fan thinks they were more happy after any of the other debuts... they have a short memory.
 

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Literally forgot januzaj entire debut. Seem to have erased that whole season from my memory :lol:

Rooney easily wins. So much hype, then scores a brilliant hat trick.

Ronaldo's was great too. Destroyed Bolton.

Januzaj 3rd, gutted he didn't work out. His debut and first few months in general made him look a cert to be a star, and I still think if Fergie was in charge he could've made him into one. His career took a wrong turn and was downhill though. Watched highlights of his debut and remembered how amazing it was.

Martials 4th because of all the hype, scores a beauty but shows his brilliance too and wasn't a stroke of luck.

Rashford 5th. Thought he'd be just a random youngster at the right place at the right time type thing, and wouldn't amount to all that much but just had a great start with some unsustainable but great finishing. Obviously the finishing part was true but he has turned into a good player but with huge potential now.

Macheda 6th. Any youngster can score screamers, his was perfectly timed and amazing for our season but in terms of himself as a player, never looked like much to me.
Are you seriously excluding the hindsight of how his career turned out here? Struggle to see many putting that experience last based on how they felt at the time. We were in the thick of a title race and needed those points. 17 year old off the bench gets the winner, spectacularly in front of the Stretford near the end of the game.

Fair play if the case, but that moment was amazing.
 

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Are you seriously excluding the hindsight of how his career turned out here? Struggle to see many putting that experience last based on how they felt at the time. We were in the thick of a title race and needed those points. 17 year old off the bench gets the winner, spectacularly in front of the Stretford near the end of the game.

Fair play if the case, but that moment was amazing.
Oh the moment was amazing, but I thought the thread was in relation to the players potential and how it made you feel about them.

If it's just moments in general for the club, then I'd go:
  1. Machete
  2. Januzaj
  3. Martial
  4. Rashford
  5. Rooney
  6. Ronaldo
Rooney and Ronaldo bottom because it wasn't against anyone decent (martial vs liverpool, rashford in knockout phase we needed to win + arsenal the next game) and they were comfortable victories and not like a last minute winner (macheda) or a come back win (januzaj).
 

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There isnt a right or wrong answer here. Its how excited HE felt, his opinion
I think you are being unfair. It’s not rational or logical the way people react to these things.

With Ronaldo, I think a main part of what made it so special is that fans dreams could be limitless. It was a different time then - and he hadn’t come from the PL or our academy where many would have seen him loads.
Again interacting with other people, you might want to give it up. Please don't try and tell me why I think something, I know what I saw when we played Sporting in pre-season, I know how excited I was when it was announced during a Sky phone in show they used to do in 2004 that we were signing him and I know how I felt watching his debut

I suppose if the thread was who had the best debut then Rooney hands down, and you would be silly to argue otherwise. Has any other teenager in the history of this club ever scored a hatrick on their debut? If they have then it is very rare.

But you guys are right in which player you chose, because of how you felt at the time.
 

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I suppose if the thread was who had the best debut then Rooney hands down, and you would be silly to argue otherwise. Has any other teenager in the history of this club ever scored a hatrick on their debut? If they have then it is very rare.

But you guys are right in which player you chose, because of how you felt at the time.
Agreed. Januzaj could probably rival that though, two goals away from home to get us a win from behind. About 18 months younger than Rooney was too, and isn’t a striker.
 

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Personally, I just love Martial goal debut. Many people cross him out as he is just unknown and United just wasting money

The feeling when he dribbles against Pool defenders and scored. Just as good as Rooney hat trick

In term of importance, definitely Macheda, thought Fergie took unnecessary risk by deploying youngster
 

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Ronaldos for me.

Was listening to the match on the radio and the way the commentators were talking weere asif jesus himself was on the pitch. Couldn’t wait to watch match of the day.

For Rooney, I was in basic training cleaning rifles in the corridor whilst all the instructors were in the office cheering Rooneys hatrick!