Do you want to see Pep at United?

[Canagel]

First of all I want to make it clear this is NOT another thread to sing Man City's praises nor am I a City lover, I was chatting to a couple of friends today and this came up so I thought I'd make a thread on it.

Firstly as much as I hate to admit it, I can't deny that Pep is a brilliant coach, has won a lot trophies and most importantly brings a very distinguished style of play which many of us would dream to see at United. I don't think anyone here hand on heart can say they haven't felt jealous watching Man City this season and it does hurt because I can't stand them as a club however they've got a coach who fits into our traditions of attacking football and would understand the United DNA better than Jose. Again I'm not bashing Jose who is another great coach and has done amazing things in his career too. He was the best choice to replace SAF and we appointed him 3 years too late.

What I want to ask is do you envisage the possibility of Pep becoming our manager in the future? And do you think it can happen? I have seen his name pop up in next manager threads in the past even a couple of weeks ago he was there. Personally I'd love to see him at United before he retires and I don't see a problem even if he is managing City now. Things change very quickly in football. Who would've thought in the summer of 2015 that Jose would be our manager 1 year later? He is still quite young for a coach and given that he has spent only 4 and 3 years respectively at his previous clubs I don't expect Man City to be any different.
Pep isn't from Manchester and doesn't have any particular affiliation with Manchester and I don't see Man City the same way I see Liverpool. If you manage Liverpool you automatically rule yourself out of managing United in the future and vice versa. Does the same apply to Man City in your eyes?

We have plenty of transfer threads discussing players who might come to United and imagining how they would fit into the squad etc... so why should managers be any different? We should be aspiring to have the buy the best players and have the best coaches in our club. Is that not what football is all about ultimately?

If he did come here in the future it wouldn't be straight after he leaves Man City obviously. He would go somewhere else and then we could make a move. I see a lot of young players such as TFM, Tuanzebe, Chong, Gomes and even the likes of Martial and Rashford in 4/5 years time would really benefit from someone who improves players like Pep. Discuss.....

 

[peridigm]

That ship has sailed.

 

[Zlatan 7]

No

 

[Valar Morghulis]

I can't see him wanting to return to the Premier League once he's left, afterall he's already after ripping it a new asshole.

 

[Borden]

Nah, he has cooties now.

 

[noodlehair]

This is getting really boring now.

 

[paulscholes18]

Yes, but it will never happen now

 

[thejtrain]

Bore off.

 

[L1nk]

Nope never happen. Closest we'd get to Guardiola is Tuchel, also likely to never happen.

 

[freeurmind]

Honestly, again, thank goodness for the new ignore thread feature.

 

[DRM]

We could have lord Jesus Christ with Allah as his assistant and we still won't win the league. WE'RE ETERNELLY CURSED POST FERGUSON DOOOOOOM

 

[UnRational]

Bore off.

X2

 

[Schmiznurf]

He wouldn't come anyway, no unlimited budget for him to spend as much as he wants, no budget for doping doctors and we wouldn't want our youth players in first team tradition broken in his first game in charge.

 

[noodlehair]

Also this Pep and miracle improving players theory is the most irritatingly tunnel visioned thing ever.

They've literally spent £700m on players in 3 years. If United or Chelsea had spent this money in 3 years, they would also have vastly improved players to what they currently have. It's just so utterly idiotic to argue any different.

For City's last league game against Leicester, 9 of the starting line up and all three of the subs were players brought in during this little spending spree...and one of the other two remaining players was Sergio Aguero...who if I remember rightly was pretty good before Pep arrived.

Improving players = constantly buying better ones than the ones you had previously?

There's no doubt he's a good coach but open your eyes for a second as to the full reason why City are suddenly trouncing everyone else.

 

[Baby Groot]

NO, don't want that cheating Bastard at United.

 

[Rightnr]

Nope.

 

[adexkola]

Oh Jesus fecking Christ.

 

[Eddy_JukeZ]

Oh Jesus fecking Christ.

Doing your best to get rid of the City lover label.

 

[Eddy_JukeZ]

I doubt he'd come back to the Premier League after he leaves.

But the ship has sailed either way imo. I'd rather not have a City manager be our manager afterwards.

 

[adexkola]

Doing your best to get rid of the City lover label.

you think it'll work?

Seriously though, what a nauseating title.

 

[yumtum]

He'll go to PSG next.

 

[Class of 63]

He's bald, so no

 

[crossy1686]

Hasn't there already been a thread called this and it got shut down? Might even be by the same guy.

I'd rather the club get relegated than have Pep.

 

[cyberman]

Nope.
He would need 500m to build the squad to how he likes it.
Even then, he ruins long term planning since his style is so unique so its a significant gear change when he leaves as well

 

[parkthebuslads]

No, I appreciate the efficiency of his work but have always found his teams boring to watch.

 

[Andersons Dietician]

I would think the way the landscape is there will be less of this oh he managed at so and so, so he can’t manage there in the future. Think soon we’ll see a lot more manager hopping because the supposed group of elite managers is quite small.
So unless he retires or Jose stays for ever I would expect at some point it’ll happen anyway. Which I’m ok with. This thread tho, mostly people just complaining. If they dislike the subject or the question or are fed up with the constant Pep-ness on here it’s quite simple. Just don’t open the thread.

 

[robinamicrowave]

Also this Pep and miracle improving players theory is the most irritatingly tunnel visioned thing ever.

They've literally spent £700m on players in 3 years. If United or Chelsea had spent this money in 3 years, they would also have vastly improved players to what they currently have. It's just so utterly idiotic to argue any different.

For City's last league game against Leicester, 9 of the starting line up and all three of the subs were players brought in during this little spending spree...and one of the other two remaining players was Sergio Aguero...who if I remember rightly was pretty good before Pep arrived.

Improving players = constantly buying better ones than the ones you had previously?

There's no doubt he's a good coach but open your eyes for a second as to the full reason why City are suddenly trouncing everyone else.

Ha! Christ, what sort of figures are those? Where's the £700m come from?

15/16 - £152m
16/17 - £169m
17/18 - £269m

£590m.

 

[crossy1686]

Nope.
He would need 500m to build the squad to how he likes it.
Even then, he ruins long term planning since his style is so unique so its a significant gear change when he leaves as well

Oh man, you've done it now. Here come the Pep fanboys to tell you all the ways your wrong. All United fans as well apparently, they defend Pep more than the City fans do.

 

[crossy1686]

Ha! Christ, what sort of figures are those? Where's the £700m come from?

15/16 - £152m
16/17 - £169m
17/18 - £269m

£590m.

Have you not heard? It's the new thing. You take a figure, exchange it from £ to €, then you change the € sign to a £ sign. Job done, instant transfer inflation. How do you think Sanchez started earning £500m a year at United?

 

[Sterling Archer]

Nah, he has cooties now.

I wonder if anyone else sees parallels with the Arsene - SAF rivalry? The former was always eulogized in the media for his passing football, compared to a fine wine .Sir Alex on the other hand was the tough Glasgow ruffian from the docks and his football was effective and entertaining but not this 'art ' that Wenger had going on in London. It's got some symmetry to the Pep versus Jose story. And for what it's worth, I was quite happy with the expert of man management over football purist before and am happy to stick with that now as well .

 

[Jaybomb]

No. And he’s spent hundreds of millions at City. That’s why they’re winning the league.

Mourinho is still working with dross from Ferguson’s era... Young, Jones, Smalling and Valencia. Pep shipped the deadwood out... Sagna, Clichy, Kolarov, Zabaleta, Fernando, Bony and replaced them with major bucks signings like Laporte, Stones, Mendy, Walker, Gundogan and Danilo.

That’s the difference in the title race IMHO

 

[robinamicrowave]

No. And he’s spent hundreds of millions at City. That’s why they’re winning the league.

Mourinho is still working with dross from Ferguson’s era... Young, Jones, Smalling and Valencia. Pep shipped the deadwood out... Sagna, Clichy, Kolarov, Zabaleta, Fernando, Bony, etc.

That’s the difference.

Think about what you've just written. Pep's spent so much money because he's shipped out the deadwood. You can't ship out four full-backs, a midfielder and a striker and not spend money to replace them.

 

[AngliaRed]

Bore off.

X3

 

[Prometheus]

They've literally spent £700m on players in 3 years. If United or Chelsea had spent this money in 3 years, they would also have vastly improved players to what they currently have. It's just so utterly idiotic to argue any different.

That's somewhat overestimated, and also United spent a similar amount since Ferguson left, and they have nothing significant to show for it (certainly no drastic improvements). Money of course plays a big part but a lot of other things come into play to make a team to play like City at the moment.

 

[Jaybomb]

Think about what you've just written. Pep's spent so much money because he's shipped out the deadwood. You can't ship out four full-backs, a midfielder and a striker and not spend money to replace them.

Most of those were sold on the cheap... some even free transfers. He knew he needed upgrades or he wasn’t going to win the league.

I refuse to believe Mourinho is happy with Smalling, Jones and Young.

 

[iluvoursolskjær]

No

 

[Rado_N]

I didn't want him before he went to City, I sure as feck don't want him now.

 

[breakout67]

Think about what you've just written. Pep's spent so much money because he's shipped out the deadwood. You can't ship out four full-backs, a midfielder and a striker and not spend money to replace them.

You might want to think about what you've written, because you've ignored a few points.

- Guardiola shipped out a goalkeeper for a goalkeeper that he didn't fancy so he got a new goalkeeper again
- Most clubs, including United and Chelsea cannot match the player turnover of Man City
- Fernandinho, Silva, KdB, Aguero and Sterling were all inherited. These are positions that are premium on the market. The outlay city have under Guardiola is astonishingly high because most of it is on a back line and squad players.

If Guardiola had to revamp the midfield and attack; then he would have spent considerably more. And the only places that this could be done would be City and PSG.

 

[Bwuk]

Can we start banning threads like this?

Too many fans being complete cuckholds over Pep.

 

[dwd]

Discuss...