Just had to watch the highlights again.The FA Cup semifinal is one of those matches where if the same events happened in a movie, you'd dismiss it as over exaggerated and too fanciful. Such was the ridiculousness of the match.
Still do!They went toe to toe with each other for about 6 years (98-04), before Mourinho arrived. After that, both nurtured a new team and there was only one clear winner.
Our domination against them in our matches started from that Highbury 4-2 game, but the latter half of the decade and up to Fergie's retirement was simply embarrassing for Wenger. The CL semis 09, the 8-2, the 7 defenders FA Cup match, and of course, Robin van Persie walking out to a guard of honour at the Emirates.
Those were the days though. I hated Arsenal with a passion during that early 2000s period, but they were beautiful to watch no doubt. Ljungberg, Berkamp, Pires, Henry, Gilberto Silva, Vieira, Adams. That was a fearsome team.
Aye, that match literally had it all: drama, action, breathtaking football, end to end stuff, moments of pure inspiration (Beckham, Schmeichel, Giggs etc.), anguish, the red card, penalty....joy!The FA Cup semifinal is one of those matches where if the same events happened in a movie, you'd dismiss it as over exaggerated and too fanciful. Such was the ridiculousness of the match.
Indeed. Sums it up really well. It is my favourite rivalry, too; these games were almost always entertaining and of a high quality. The rivalry with Liverpool with intense and I dread those games - but not only because losing feels terrible, also because the games themselves are generally dire.The war between Arsenal and United is seen as a symbol of a good old days, yet there is more to it than that. It was a finite window in a rapidly changing world where the values and intensity of Old Football met the skill and diversity of New Football to produce a biblical struggle. Old Football is gone, so it can never happen again.
Battle of the Buffet was one of the best games to watch. I should try and find it online.
Legend! Thanks, I will enjoy watching that again!
The comments from the Arsenal fans
That's a weird thing to say given that City have won 3 titles in the last 7 years, the same as...shock horror, 96-03 Arsenal, or 04-10 Chelsea.People think they miss Arsenal being a force but what they actually miss is Arsenal being a rival that would only win a title every few years and only somewhat threatened the dominance of United. Nobody will look back in fondness of the great City and Chelsea teams because they were far more competitive even if they have done so artificially.
Nah, Chelsea were out best ever rivals because their obscene spending completely legitimised our success, and we mostly bossed the rivalry. Abramovich was a disaster for English football in a lot of ways, but if he hadn't come along we'd have most likely ended up like Bayern or Juventus are now, and people would have taken our success a lot less seriously. Instead Chelsea massively outspent us and yet between the takeover and SAF retiring we had six title races against them in six seasons of which we won four. We also beat them in a European Cup final and a quarter final, though they beat us in that awful FA cup final.People think they miss Arsenal being a force but what they actually miss is Arsenal being a rival that would only win a title every few years and only somewhat threatened the dominance of United. Nobody will look back in fondness of the great City and Chelsea teams because they were far more competitive even if they have done so artificially.
I wonder how long it will be before we humiliate a genuine title contender the way we did in those games?They went toe to toe with each other for about 6 years (98-04), before Mourinho arrived. After that, both nurtured a new team and there was only one clear winner.
Our domination against them in our matches started from that Highbury 4-2 game, but the latter half of the decade and up to Fergie's retirement was simply embarrassing for Wenger. The CL semis 09, the 8-2, the 7 defenders FA Cup match, and of course, Robin van Persie walking out to a guard of honour at the Emirates.
Those were the days though. I hated Arsenal with a passion during that early 2000s period, but they were beautiful to watch no doubt. Ljungberg, Berkamp, Pires, Henry, Gilberto Silva, Vieira, Adams. That was a fearsome team.
Mourinho has managed it before in his career so it is possible it'll happen under him I suppose.I wonder how long it will be before we humiliate a genuine title contender the way we did in those games?
Every Liverpool fan was an Arsenal fan then.As good a place as any to post this Probably my favourite PL goal of all time.
Man, I miss that Arsenal.
Never thought it was a classic, much better games than that from memory. Highbury 1999 when Keane scored 2 goals, 2-2 in Highbury in 2003 were much better games and the FA Cup semi final in 99 were my favourite games.Battle of the Buffet was one of the best games to watch. I should try and find it online.
TBF it was a pretty tough ask since we were just kryptonite to that Arsenal team (they got some embarrassing losses to other top teams as well, but nowhere near as often as vs. us). As Evra once said, it was men vs boys and we would just simply bully them off the pitch. I don't think we would ever have the same characters in the team to do that to anyone ever again, and the same applied to all other in the league.I wonder how long it will be before we humiliate a genuine title contender the way we did in those games?
I dunno. Most of the big teams around us (apart from, I think, Spurs?) Have copped an ass-whupping in recent years. Liverpool got beat 5 nil by City, who got smashed by Leicester and Everton the previous year. Chelsea got beaten 3 nil by Arsenal(!) last season. I guess the closest we would have to the 8-2 glory days would be wins over Liverpool and Spurs under Van Gaal.TBF it was a pretty tough ask since we were just kryptonite to that Arsenal team (they got some embarrassing losses to other top teams as well, but nowhere near as often as vs. us). As Evra once said, it was men vs boys and we would just simply bully them off the pitch. I don't think we would ever have the same characters in the team to do that to anyone ever again, and the same applied to all other in the league.
The 8-2 itself was against a depleted Arsenal team that got a 19 year old as fullback (can't even remember his name now).I dunno. Most of the big teams around us (apart from, I think, Spurs?) Have copped an ass-whupping in recent years. Liverpool got beat 5 nil by City, who got smashed by Leicester and Everton the previous year. Chelsea got beaten 3 nil by Arsenal(!) last season. I guess the closest we would have to the 8-2 glory days would be wins over Liverpool and Spurs under Van Gaal.
Carl Jenkinson. Funnily enough, we also had a 19 year old fullback in that game. His name was Phil Jones!The 8-2 itself was against a depleted Arsenal team that got a 19 year old as fullback (can't even remember his name now).
Not just the scoreline, but the consistent manner of the performance was the key point during this period. We absolutely destroyed them both home and away in the CL semi in 09, then the next year won 2-1 at home and 3-1 away, then followed by a 1-0 at home with Park scoring the winning goal, then the infamous FA Cup game before the streak got broken when they won 1-0 in the Emirates with a Ramsey goal. Next season was the 8-2 and the 2-1 at Emirates. Despite the scorelines, we would invariably be the better team.
Ass whupping happened regularly. Even the great Arsenal side copped that 6-1 at OT in 2001. We lost 0-4 to Chelsea and got them back at OT, Liverpool got 0-5 at Etihad then went 3 up in the return leg. Even our 08-11 team lost 0-4 at home to Liverpool. However, I can't think of a single match up in recent memories that was so singularly one sided as it was of us vs Arsenal during those years.
Wouldn't agree with that. Rio and Vida started that season very slowly, and Vida would end up eventually with an injury against Basel that ruled him out for basically the rest of the season. In the Community Shield we started with both of them in defence and went 0-2 down, changed both with Smalling and Evans and came back 3-2 with that Nani goal. The midfield pairing of Cleverley-Ando was also in great form, blitzing every team 5 or 6 nil during the summer tour, won 3-0 again Spurs the week prior (or was that the week after?).Carl Jenkinson. Funnily enough, we also had a 19 year old fullback in that game. His name was Phil Jones!
We actually fielded a weakened team in that game too. Which made it all the more satisfying. Smalling and Evans in central defence, Cleverley and Anderson in midfield.
No room for Rio, Vidic, Carrick, Berbatov, Giggs or Scholes in the starting XI.
Nah, I disagree. As we quickly found out, the Anderson-Cleverley midfield axis were flattering to deceive. The XI who started against Arsenal sure as shit didn't turn out to be the best XI over the course of that season. But whatever, not arsed about carrying this tangent on.Wouldn't agree with that. Rio and Vida started that season very slowly, and Vida would end up eventually with an injury against Basel that ruled him out for basically the rest of the season. In the Community Shield we started with both of them in defence and went 0-2 down, changed both with Smalling and Evans and came back 3-2 with that Nani goal. The midfield pairing of Cleverley-Ando was also in great form, blitzing every team 5 or 6 nil during the summer tour, won 3-0 again Spurs the week prior (or was that the week after?).
We played our best XI at the time on form, while Arsenal went through a tumultuous summer with the loss of Clichy and Nasri to City. After the match Arsene would go on a panic buy spree and got Mertersacker, Carzola, Arteta etc...
A fit, in form and winning Utd destroyed a demoralised Arsenal that day. In the list of our domination that wouldn't rank quite high compared to other games on the 'weakened team' criteria.