Fellaini (on his way) out? | Duncan Castles: Fellaini agrees new two year deal

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...for him to re-sign. :devil:

I can see that some fans are squirming and in great anguish that he still has time to re-sign with us.
I look at it more pragmatically. We need a Plan B and he is excellent at that. Jose just needs to resist starting him, though. The Arsenal game exemplifies this.
His goal against Arsenal was his first (in 5 years) coming on as a late sub in a game we were chasing. So i would hardly say he is excellent as a plan B.
 

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Wasnt it Rashford promoted out of desperation with injuries? Then Rashford shown Rooney up as a striker, leading to his public claims now being a midifelder
Yes Rooney and Martial were injured. Pretty sure Rooney was playing in midfield for stretches the season before as well. Anyway off topic, back to Fellaini.
 

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...for him to re-sign. :devil:

I can see that some fans are squirming and in great anguish that he still has time to re-sign with us.
I look at it more pragmatically. We need a Plan B and he is excellent at that. Jose just needs to resist starting him, though. The Arsenal game exemplifies this.
I still say that bringing on Fellaini and Martial on at the same time at around the 60th minute can unlock a stubborn defence. I witnessed this when we scored 3 goals in 10 minutes, after these 2 were introduced and it was like taking candy from a baby.
Rival defences don't know what to expect when you bring on 2 players who are complete opposites.
Fellaini is also a great option to have if we are losing a physical battle on the pitch.

Put it another way: I'd rather go into a tough game, knowing that he is on bench, than him not being available.
A decent plan B he is, but he's plagued too many starting XI's over the years and turned in so many abject performances. I'm more excited at the prospect of someone replacing his minutes in the team, whether that's a new signing or not.
 

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His goal against Arsenal was his first (in 5 years) coming on as a late sub in a game we were chasing. So i would hardly say he is excellent as a plan B.
It's not just about him scoring though is it, for example he caused Liverpool mayhem in their box when Zlatan got the late goal against them season before last

But yeah while he's here Jose may be tempted to start him ala Sevilla and no one wants that so let him leave
 

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It's not just about him scoring though is it, for example he caused Liverpool mayhem in their box when Zlatan got the late goal against them season before last

But yeah while he's here Jose may be tempted to start him ala Sevilla and no one wants that so let him leave
I get your point mate though i wouldn't exactly say he caused mayhem. As i remember he touched a cross onto a post that lead to another cross that Zlatan put away, any player could do that.

I don't think he's effective as a plan B, i've came to this opinion from watching him over 5 years and seeing that he's rarely had an effect on turning games around when we lump the ball up to him. Certainly not to the extent that he warrants a place in the squad on that basis alone because he's some sort of effective plan B tactic as some seem to think.

Smalling only has a couple of goals less than him over the last 5 years. If Mourinho really wants to stick someone in the box to hoof balls up to he could just use Smalling.
 

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Why is anyone bothered? Never wanted him in the first place, don't even know what his best position is. Clumsy. In my opinion they've probably offered him a new deal on a lower wage to keep him as a squad player and he probably thinks he's worth more and will get a contract somewhere else. No loss really. With Fred, Matic, Pogba, Herrera, Lingard, Blind, Mctominay and Mata all under contract currently in central areas, and rumours around Golovin and SMS etc etc I don't see where we plan to play him or why we even need him in the squad
 
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Why is anyone bothered?
I think most on here, want him to leave. But are worried that he will re-sign in the next few days.
If he re-signs, I can see there being a meltdown in this thread, which should be amusing. :p
 

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I think most on here, want him to leave. But are worried that he will re-sign in the next few days.
If he re-signs, I can see there being a meltdown in this thread, which should be amusing. :p
Please don't even suggest it as a possibility :lol:
 

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11 days to go. Fingers crossed.
People talk about plan B. Let's concentrate on plan A(actually learning how to play consistent cohesive football on the ground) before worrying about plan B.
 

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He lost his case against New Balance whom he blamed for his accidental kicking the s### out of people, except Aguero of course who needs a good kicking, so he’s strapped for cash. No offers yet. It may depend how Belgium do in the WC.
 

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The tw*t is good for plan B. Just don’t like the way he’s gone about his contract. If he agrees to stay, offer him less!
 

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I can't imagine he's staying now.We surely wouldn't leave it so late to agree a new contract with him so I can only assume we are happy to let him leave and have another transfer target in mind.

Personally I say good riddance, decent player who put in a shift but not good enough for a team with premiership/champions league ambitions.
 

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With his injury problems last season we probably offered him wages that's based heavily on appearances, similar to what Ibra supposedly had last season before he left. And in the fact that it's likely one year with the usual option of one additional year the club can trigger, and I can understand him wanting a more stable contract elsewhere.
 

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With his injury problems last season we probably offered him wages that's based heavily on appearances, similar to what Ibra supposedly had last season before he left. And in the fact that it's likely one year with the usual option of one additional year the club can trigger, and I can understand him wanting a more stable contract elsewhere.
He screwed himself cause apparently we already offered him new contract before he got injured. Remember Jose said it to him that he should just sign , cause i guess he got reduced term after his knee injury.
 

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With highlights videos like this (the first one that comes up if you search for "Fellaini highlights" on google video), I can't believe that clubs aren't falling over each other to sign him.

 

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So where are all the teams that wanted him and wanted to pay him millions and millions for many many years.? Football is letting me down .
 

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Gonna party like it's 1999 on 01 July when his contract expires......but I got the feeling he will playing the piano come August!!!!!
 

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I won't forgive Mou for resigning him. That would just be the end of all hope I have for his tenure as coach. Can't wait for this week to pass.
 

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If he was going to resign he would of done so by now
 

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Good riddance after his cheeky attitude regarding renewing.

Oaf should praise himself lucky to ever have played for Manchester United.
 

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Imagine the scenes if the day before his contract expires he realises nobody is going to give him what he's asking for, and he accepts the renewal offer. Would make me pig-sick to be honest.
 

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Imagine the scenes if the day before his contract expires he realises nobody is going to give him what he's asking for, and he accepts the renewal offer. Would make me pig-sick to be honest.
After his antics and talking himself up so much, the only way the club should allow him to re sign is on reduced terms from what they were offering before.
 

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He lost his case against New Balance whom he blamed for his accidental kicking the s### out of people, except Aguero of course who needs a good kicking, so he’s strapped for cash. No offers yet. It may depend how Belgium do in the WC.
That suit had me thinking how much he must really love the dosh. The whole claim was a massive stretch, and to sue for that amount was just..

If he's chasing more paper he will be a United player by the start of next season. No one is going to offer him anything close to what we have. Nothing even China like he suggested

Scenes at United when Fellaini and Young remain important players at the start of the next campaign
 

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The tw*t is good for plan B. Just don’t like the way he’s gone about his contract. If he agrees to stay, offer him less!
Can any of the Fellaini "plan b" advocates prove statistically that sending him on / moving him upfront has been any more advantageous than the defending team bringing on a different defender.

I'm sure that the number of late "own goals" we have benefited from down the years will outscore the Belgian hatstand.

So I'm wondering if in similar situations we would be better off convincing the opposition to bring on a defender who we might ping a goal off, rather than depend on Fellaini's poor showing.
 

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I think he’s a better player than many, myself included, give him credit for. Still, I would just be happier if he wasn’t here. Given we don’t play football as well as other big sides as it is, removing the option of a fecking target man in central midfield would feel like a step in the right direction, as we would have to focus on more conventionally penetrative football.

But he isn’t that bad I must admit, and if he stayed, would likely be useful on occasion.
 

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Can any of the Fellaini "plan b" advocates prove statistically that sending him on / moving him upfront has been any more advantageous than the defending team bringing on a different defender.

I'm sure that the number of late "own goals" we have benefited from down the years will outscore the Belgian hatstand.

So I'm wondering if in similar situations we would be better off convincing the opposition to bring on a defender who we might ping a goal off, rather than depend on Fellaini's poor showing.
Sorry, I have no stats. Just my time of watching him. Not always about him scoring goals. He causes panick, whereby other players can benefit from.
 

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That suit had me thinking how much he must really love the dosh. The whole claim was a massive stretch, and to sue for that amount was just..

If he's chasing more paper he will be a United player by the start of next season. No one is going to offer him anything close to what we have. Nothing even China like he suggested

Scenes at United when Fellaini and Young remain important players at the start of the next campaign
Fellaini aside we are still a bit thin in the middle. Having him bolster our numbers at least. He's good at defending a lead if he's not having a brainfart. Besides we bought him for 30m and he's ours. No need to just flog him off and spend another 40 for a backup midfielder.

Just pragmatism I guess. Having him is bette than not having him... for the time being
 

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Can any of the Fellaini "plan b" advocates prove statistically that sending him on / moving him upfront has been any more advantageous than the defending team bringing on a different defender.

I'm sure that the number of late "own goals" we have benefited from down the years will outscore the Belgian hatstand.

So I'm wondering if in similar situations we would be better off convincing the opposition to bring on a defender who we might ping a goal off, rather than depend on Fellaini's poor showing.
If there were stats that prove he is effective as a plan B, you can guarantee they would have been posted over and over again in this thread and other Fellaini threads.

What we do know us that in games we are losing/drawing in which hes brought on late to turn games around he has 1 goal and 1 assist over 5 years. Doesn't tell the whole story but it does point to how effective he actually is when used as a plan B.
 
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