That would probably be worse?
Forgive my ignorance, but what pictures are those?
The DFB have been an utter disgrace in how they've handled this. No one in the management came out to ever defend him when critics, even their own teams manager Bierhoff, and public lashed at him.
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As i said, imo Özil had to be suspended before the WC. There was no other option. But they fecked everything up.
there's been a lot of obsession in Germany when it comes to players with foreign roots. Even before all of that, there were regular discussions about Özil, Gündogan etc. singing the anthem, being proud of Germany and stuff like that. And Erdogan is pretty much seen as the devil in Germany, and Özils and Gündogans photo with him was seen by many as justification for their prejudices against those players.
Heartbreaking reading that
No, he should not have been suspended. The DFB should have been with him the whole way as he was expressing a right to opinion. But they were weak and pathetic infront of the public and now we learn the president is a massive d*ck as well.
Huh? The DFB made a mess of dealing with the situation, but Özil was completely foolish for not realising (or ignoring) the impact he would have made by creating it in the first place.Heartbreaking reading that
This was a real clusterf*ck of a situation and DFB are firmly responsible for this.
What do you think the reaction in England would be like if say someone like David Beckham had posed with Robert Mugabe a few years ago?
Yep, he's playing the victim.
Exactly.
It's pretty clear he means he sees himself as a member of a diaspora but not a Turkish national. Hence the part about choosing to play for Germany and paying taxes there. He's not being a hypocrite.Talk about hypocrisy and lack of self-awareness, at the start of his letter:
"I have two hearts, one German, one Turkish".
At the end of his letter:
"Are there criteria for being fully German which I do not fit? My friend Lukas Podolski and Miroslav Klose are never referred to as German-Polish, so why am I German-Turkish? Is it because it is Turkey? Is it because I'm Muslim? I think here lays an important issue. By being referred to as German-Turkish, it is already distinguishing people who have family from more than one country".
Well gee, one surefire way of being referred to as German-Turkish would be by describing yourself as half German and half Turkish.
I would support Beckham's right to be a mug. It's a free nation. And if Beckham had done it he wouldn't have copped half the crap a black Rhodesian origin player of similar stature would have. In both cases I would support the player's right to make an ass of themselves.
Podolski openly did not celebrate his two goals vs Poland on Euro 2008, why isn't he referred to as German-Polish then?Talk about hypocrisy and lack of self-awareness, at the start of his letter:
"I have two hearts, one German, one Turkish".
At the end of his letter:
"Are there criteria for being fully German which I do not fit? My friend Lukas Podolski and Miroslav Klose are never referred to as German-Polish, so why am I German-Turkish? Is it because it is Turkey? Is it because I'm Muslim? I think here lays an important issue. By being referred to as German-Turkish, it is already distinguishing people who have family from more than one country".
Well gee, one surefire way of being referred to as German-Turkish would be by describing yourself as half German and half Turkish.
Did you just compare Erdogan to Robert Mugabe? Christ you are utterly clueless to anything outside your country.
You don't even know where Im from.
Anyone from Turkey would not have said what you said, so the point still stands.
Only if politics worked like that. He will shrug this off as nothing ever happened. He will ride on the support of many Germans who are inherently anti-immigrant.
This is where the issue is. On what grounds can you suspend a footballer for a social photo?
He doesn't actually say that though - he attributes equal weighting to his German and Turkish "hearts", he does not say that he is not a Turkish national.
I'd say that I was Polish-English. However, then I wouldn't later say that it felt unfair and persecutory to be called Polish-English by others, even though I'd already stated that I was. He's trying to have his cake and eat it - saying that he feels equally German and Turkish, but then if he gets questioned for showing his Turkish side then he proclaims they must be imagining things or being persecutory, because actually he's only German.
