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GM K

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But you know it's all about coaching.
When he has a bad game that is...

It baffles me when it is the manager's fault if a player is playing badly, but it has nothing to so with the manager when the same player is playing brilliantly.
 

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Martial strikes me as one of those players who needs to play in an attacking team. He’s best when there’s lots happening around him, he’s not like Hazard who can just get the ball and make something happen anywhere on the pitch. When Pogba drifts into his area and Shaw overlaps he starts to get the space and options he needs. If those two aren’t there, or aren’t playing well, he’s not got much else to offer.
I agree with this. He would be great at City Liverpool or Spurs
 

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Pretty much the same level of performance for a couple of months now. Some good instances here, a couple of goals there. The one commendable thing is that he's working a lot harder for the team now, even if he did not have a good night. Which definitely was not happening before.
Very true. Martial is really working harder now. I can clearly see that in his game. He looks more intereated. Like he cares a lot more and his agent is saying a lot less. My guess is this is why Jose has been sticking to him more and will start him again this weekend despite two poor games in a row.
 

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Is this even true? As far as I'm aware Martial FC was used for people that were convinced that Martial had never had a bad game and it was the manager, left back, midfield's fault that he was shite. Also posters that claimed that he would be world class already if it wasn't for the manager.

The only time I used Martial FC was to describe a non United poster that constantly deflected and defended in this thread and it made no sense other than they really loved Martial.
Except that, that type of poster doesn't exist? If you can name even one poster on here that has said Martial has never had a bad game, I would be shocked. As far as "blaming" the midfield and the manager goes, it is quite clear that at present, it is Matic and Mourinho holding back the majority of our attacking play, would you disagree?

That isn't to say Martial is blameless, almost everyone I've seen posting in this thread agrees that he has faults (movement/intensity). What Martial FC are claiming is that we should play him regardless of those faults, because even with these glaring holes in his game, he is our best attacker, both statistically and aesthetically.

I think the point that "Martial FC" are making is that it is very hard to judge a talented young player too harshly when clearly, there is a much bigger problem.

As far as I'm concerned, Martial is our best talent and this ridiculous treatment of him by some fans (maybe not you) has been akin to Ronaldo in his early years at United. Clearly one of the best talents in the league, but certain people almost seem offended by that notion.
 

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feck off haters. Just a little bump on the road. He'll be back.

Its not about overrating Martial. He's one of the best if not the best attacker we've got. Great productivity even when he's not the focal point of the team. He's not perfect or consistent but he's got the most potential. Will benefit the club eventually if we can develop him. That's why fans advocate for him to play regularly.

Has he fully recovered from his injury though?
 

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I don't understand Mourinho. Martial's biggest quality is his finishing. Why isn't he being deployed as a striker. He surely is gonna do better than Rashford and Lukaku. At least try something else. Either its Lukaku who is in awful state or Rashford who is not good as a finisher but has pace and could be used better from the left. . This guy is not a winger.
 

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Martial's biggest issue is when he's good he's great, but when he's bad, he tends to be really bad.
When he’s “great” he’s scoring a goal a game so you can’t knock his productivity. However, his overall performance in games where he scores is usually identical to last night. Repeated bad decisions, poor off the ball movement and woeful short passing. If he ends up scoring a worldie none of that matters. However he can’t and won’t do that in every game so it’s a big fecking problem for the team that his basics are so consistently poor.
 

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It's hard to find a wide forward/winger who isn't inconsistent but he has been horrible the past 2 games, seems as though the international break and his injury has halted the momentum he was building. Poor decision making, trying to over complicate things by dribbling too much or trying to score the perfect goal with a one-two. As some have said though - he didn't stop trying, just 2 bad days at the office.

I think a lot of it comes down to Pogba too. Pogba was poor on Saturday and of course didn't play most of last night and I think Pogba playing well is key to getting Martial in better positions. Pogba came on last night and straight away dinked the ball over the top for Martial to get on the end of, this was missing for most of the game and Martial was receiving the ball with 2 players to beat each time.
 

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I don't understand Mourinho. Martial's biggest quality is his finishing. Why isn't he being deployed as a striker. He surely is gonna do better than Rashford and Lukaku. At least try something else. Either its Lukaku who is in awful state or Rashford who is not good as a finisher but has pace and could be used better from the left. . This guy is not a winger.
We should be playing two strikers upfront. In a partnership. There's four strikers in the club but we would rather use a target man and makeshift wingers. Total waste .
 

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We should be playing two strikers upfront. In a partnership. There's four strikers in the club but we would rather use a target man and makeshift wingers. Total waste .
Exactly.

People question why Lukaku has put on weight - its bloody obvious that he has been asked to put more muscle on to improve his ability as a target man. Doing so has significantly impaired his ability to be the traditional fast moving forward that he is that prefers to make runs behind the defence rather than being stagnant in one position.

Sanchez, Martial, Rashford & Lukaku are all good strikers at running either behind the opposition (rashford & Lukaku) or directly at the opposition (martial & Sanchez) - none of that happens at our club. Doing so as wingers significantly impairs the direction a winger can go leading normally to passes back or crosses in to the box; especially when our main goal threat is a 'makeshift' target man in Lukaku.
 

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We should be playing two strikers upfront. In a partnership. There's four strikers in the club but we would rather use a target man and makeshift wingers. Total waste .
How can you play two strikers up top when you have no right winger, further more if you were to play three at the back, you would be asking for more trouble, with brain farts from Bailly and Jones.
 

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How can you play two strikers up top when you have no right winger, further more if you were to play three at the back, you would be asking for more trouble, with brain farts from Bailly and Jones.
Width from the fullbacks is enough. Every modern attacking team uses their fullbacks like wingers nowadays. We don't have a RW or any wingers for that matter so don't use system which requires wing play like 4-3-3 /4-2-3-1. it's quite simple. It exposes that weakness further. The football has been total crap in those formations without the players that suit it. Our best performance came when Ibrahimovic was benched and we went 3 at the back against Chelsea with partnership of Rashford and Lingard if you remember.
 
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I don't understand Mourinho. Martial's biggest quality is his finishing. Why isn't he being deployed as a striker. He surely is gonna do better than Rashford and Lukaku. At least try something else. Either its Lukaku who is in awful state or Rashford who is not good as a finisher but has pace and could be used better from the left. . This guy is not a winger.
Because we're playing low back line and we prefer playing long balls to Rom/Mata/Lingard (?!) with no one to win the 2nd ball or run behind and/or a slow side passing approach (Van Gaal it's you?!). To be effective with Martial/Sanchez upfront, we need some fluid creative attacking play where everyone knows what he has to do and try to do it with confidence...something our team lacks badly.
 

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I don't understand Mourinho. Martial's biggest quality is his finishing. Why isn't he being deployed as a striker. He surely is gonna do better than Rashford and Lukaku. At least try something else. Either its Lukaku who is in awful state or Rashford who is not good as a finisher but has pace and could be used better from the left. . This guy is not a winger.
I thought that in his first season. The guy just looked such a lethal, composed finisher. I know he's done better so far this season but I still think his form under LVG was a lot better.
 

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His end product was unusually bad, some stuff just didn't come off. Unlucky at times and you felt that his confidence is not fully there at others. His creative and build up play was good to see though. Hate to use a Mourinho term but the golabality of his performance was goo. His distractors will always focus on the bad on games like these of course, instead the true constructive thing about these games in Martial's carreer point is that he needs to experience them.

Hopefully he gets back in the goals on Saturday :cool:
 

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Needs to just make his decisions faster when he's on the ball. Recently, he seemed unsure whether to go wide or cut inside and ends up giving the defender too much time to recover.
 

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When he’s “great” he’s scoring a goal a game so you can’t knock his productivity. However, his overall performance in games where he scores is usually identical to last night. Repeated bad decisions, poor off the ball movement and woeful short passing. If he ends up scoring a worldie none of that matters. However he can’t and won’t do that in every game so it’s a big fecking problem for the team that his basics are so consistently poor.
We have a couple of those, unfortunately.
 

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He's coming back from an injury, Mourinho literally confirmed he's not ready to start games on the bounce yet.
Matic:; 90 + 90 + 90 + 90 + 90 + 90 +90 + 90 + 90 +90 + 90 + 90 +90 + 90 + 90 +90 + 90 + 90 +90 + 90 + 90 +90 + 90 + 90 +90 + 90 + 90 +90 + 90 + 90 +90 + 90 + 90 + infinity
 

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We carry no threat without Martial. Praying he’s fit for Arsenal.
 
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As soon as Martial went off our attacking threat dropped by about 90%.
I guess the main redeeming feature in his performance today is that it should,in theory,cement his role as our main forward because Lukaku once again did feck all.
 

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The way he held the ball at times it reminded us how awful Lukaku is at that
 

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I thought he was doing really well. I enjoyed his performance especially when he was playing in the middle. It's such a shame.
 

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He would be some player if he had Rashfords pace, I honestly think he lacks genuine pace to be a world class player!
 

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Bagged another one and showed plenty of hunger for tracking back that really turns some on. Hopefully whatever he went off with was just a knock, although I imagine he'll miss the Fulham game at the very least.
 

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He would be some player if he had Rashfords pace, I honestly think he lacks genuine pace to be a world class player!
He can be a world class player and will be without Rashford pace.

Martial can out pace any player from stand still position which is what you need to be world class.
 
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