Doing well for Aston Villa is not the same as doing well for United. Just being realistic here. This however is a very good loan move and his development could save a lot of money.
That is not true. For a young defender doing well in a league that tough means good things for usAston Villa is 9th in the Championship. Doing well there means nothing for us.
It's a good learning curve and experience for him. The Championship is a good league to start learning and if he's getting a good run of games then of course it's good for him.Aston Villa is 9th in the Championship. Doing well there means nothing for us.
Yes, I agree that it's good for him. What I mean is that even if he is fantastic there, it doesn't mean that he will be a starter for us. Of course, I'd be glad if he succeeds and becomes our main defender. But our fans should not be carried away.It's a good learning curve and experience for him. The Championship is a good league to start learning and if he's getting a good run of games then of course it's good for him.
Who's getting carried away? He's a very very good prospect, that's the consensus on here I believe. UYes, I agree that it's good for him. What I mean is that even if he is fantastic there, it doesn't mean that he will be a starter for us. Of course, I'd be glad if he succeeds and becomes our main defender. But our fans should not be carried away.
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Superb, he brings the ball out from defence so well.
Too good for this league. I truly believe that.
Like a young Rio Ferdinand.
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Thought Axel Tuanzebe was fantastic at the "stepping into midfield and distributing the ball" role last night.
My Man of the Match.#AVFC
Everyone raving about our attacking players and rightly so, but how good is Tuanzebe, the man is class. Drove from deep with the ball and made countless cutting passes to Jack and John taking multiple players out of the game. A proper ball playing defender. #avfc
Ghazi was class. CHESTER and Tuanzebe class. They were all good #avfc
impressive from the whole team today felt Chester and tuanzebe dealt with the ball in the air a lot better than in the week #avfc
Tuanzebe’s play under Smith vs Bruce is a perfect example of why I’m glad Bruce is gone. With Smith, he’s a ball playing CB. With Bruce, he was mostly a RB & DM. #AVFC
El Ghazi superb, Chester and Tuanzebe solid , Nyland hardworking, Bolasie brilliant, McGinn , Hourihane and Grealish lively , Elmo and Taylor untested #avfc
Bold part 1: Wonder which team is desperate for ball playing CBNow this is enjoyable to watch! Tuanzebe class in the back#AVFC
I'm happy he's doing well, rate him higher than TFM, but at the same time they're also praising Chester who has been shite for Hull iirc so that doesn't tell much. Tuanzebe wouldn't get as much playing time here either way so I'm glad that he is where he is.Some comments from Villa fans on twitter.
James Chester will be 30 in a month and Tuanzebe is 21, there is a big difference. Also this is his first stint as a CB at Villa, previously he was played as RB. Even on Villa forum, they are blaming Bruce for playing him as RB when he is so good as CB.I'm happy he's doing well, rate him higher than TFM, but at the same time they're also praising Chester who has been shite for Hull iirc so that doesn't tell much. Tuanzebe wouldn't get as much playing time here either way so I'm glad that he is where he is.
Yeah what I meant it's just not that much of a barometer, no disrespect towards Axel as he's got all the time in the world to develop and seems to be in the right place, finally a loan where our player seems to be involved a lot. I'm afraid that with the current shambles we're experiencing he'd look well out of place too, which would only hamper his self-belief.James Chester will be 30 in a month and Tuanzebe is 21, there is a big difference. Also this is his first stint as a CB at Villa, previously he was played as RB. Even on Villa forum, they are blaming Bruce for playing him as RB when he is so good as CB.
He won't get much playing time here like you said which is a big shame. He didn't look out of place when he played in few games.
Yeah, that's a good point. Good that he isn't involved in the toxic atmosphere. More than game time I'm happy that Villa fans are praising his ball playing abilities.Yeah what I meant it's just not that much of a barometer, no disrespect towards Axel as he's got all the time in the world to develop and seems to be in the right place, finally a loan where our player seems to be involved a lot. I'm afraid that with the current shambles we're experiencing he'd look well out of place too, which would only hamper his self-belief.
I agree. When Tuanzebe is ready in a year or two, he will be better than Lindelof is in 5 years. Just a year or so of experience to show their quality between them when he arrived, seems pointless and if anything we could have signed an older more trustworthy defender.We didn't need to spend the money to bring in Lindelof when we had him who I believe is better than the Swede.
When he made his debut against Arsenal at the Emirates he played very well against one of the best players in the league in Sanchez. It's a pity we had the wrong manager in charge or else I believe he would've played alot of games in our first team by now and saved us £35m.
Agreed. He's a very talented defender and I personally think he possibly could have been our Joe Gomez if we placed our trust in him.We didn't need to spend the money to bring in Lindelof when we had him who I believe is better than the Swede.
When he made his debut against Arsenal at the Emirates he played very well against one of the best players in the league in Sanchez. It's a pity we had the wrong manager in charge or else I believe he would've played alot of games in our first team by now and saved us £35m.
I think he will have a similar impact to the young Liverpool defender once he gets a chance under a coach like Howe or Poch.Agreed. He's a very talented defender and I personally think he possibly could have been our Joe Gomez if we placed our trust in him.
It helps Gomez that he plays next to Van Dijk. How does Tuanzebe react to playing at LCB next to Smalling?Agreed. He's a very talented defender and I personally think he possibly could have been our Joe Gomez if we placed our trust in him.
It helps that Gomez plays for Klopp who trusts his players, not someone like Jose. If Jose was his manager he would have been loaned out to Championship team.It helps Gomez that he plays next to Van Dijk. How does Tuanzebe react to playing at LCB next to Smalling?
From the little I have seen, he is our Joe Gomez. Needs a manager to trust him. Think he is doing very well for Villa. I don't get to watch their games, but always check the line-ups and he is always starting at CB for them.Agreed. He's a very talented defender and I personally think he possibly could have been our Joe Gomez if we placed our trust in him.
Gomez was impressing before Liverpool signed VVD. He was playing extremely well under Rodgers at fullback before he suffered a long term injury.It helps Gomez that he plays next to Van Dijk. How does Tuanzebe react to playing at LCB next to Smalling?
So you think Tuanzebe would be just fine playing at LCB with Smalling? He isn't going to be playing on the right. It's very easy just to claim a academy product will be better than what we have.Gomez was impressing before Liverpool signed VVD. He was playing extremely well under Rodgers at fullback before he suffered a long term injury.
What does McTominay have to do with Tuanzebe? Why are we investing in young talent? When we don't, the manager is crucified for only buying older players. England were very defensive against Brazil. Tuanzebe was playing at RB for us as far as I remember.Of course it helps, but it shouldn't be a barrier to the development of what is a clearly gifted player. Why is the development of a McTominay prioritised, why are we splashing £30+m on average CB when we have a gifted young CB who could have done with some games here and there? Gomez has played well for England without needing Van Dijk (his performance v Neymar against Brazil was eye-catching and he's now beginning to become a first choice for NT). Tuanzebe whenever I saw him play for us, looked the part - no guarantee he would still be good enough, but generally if you're showing you're adept enough you should be rewarded with more game time. He even had some sublime performances at CDM.
He will do just fine playing next to whichever CB he's paired with. He's faster than Lindelof and is physically stronger than the Swede. He's already shown his undoubted potential on his debut against Arsenal against one of the most dangerous players in the league. Tell me what Lindelof offers that Tuanzebe doesn't?So you think Tuanzebe would be just fine playing at LCB with Smalling? He isn't going to be playing on the right. It's very easy just to claim a academy product will be better than what we have.
He is playing in the Championship. You are just hopeful he will play well on the left next to Smalling. Yeah okay, I love how people bash Jose for signing younger players but God forbid he signs an experienced one either, we have Tuanzebe!He will do just fine playing next to whichever CB he's paired with. He's faster than Lindelof and is physically stronger than the Swede. He's already shown his undoubted potential on his debut against Arsenal against one of the most dangerous players in the league. Tell me what Lindelof offers that Tuanzebe doesn't?
It's pretty clear to me that he should've been given opportunities in the first 11 but unfortunately our manager was hell bent on making Benfica £35m richer.
Jose bashing? If he had signed a experienced CB then I would've understood. But fecking Lindelof? Who I watched play for Benfica and never thought he was good enough for us.He is playing in the Championship. You are just hopeful he will play well on the left next to Smalling. Yeah okay, I love how people bash Jose for signing younger players but God forbid he signs an experienced one either, we have Tuanzebe!
He signs younger players. Why is he signing younger players?! He targets more experienced players. Why is he trying to sign experienced players?!Jose bashing? If he had signed a experienced CB then I would've understood. But fecking Lindelof? Who I watched play for Benfica and never thought he was good enough for us.
And Jose deserves everything he gets with his shitty football and negative goal difference.
What on earth are you talking about?He signs younger players. Why is he signing younger players?! He targets more experienced players. Why is he trying to sign experienced players?!
Think he'd do really well if we brought him back but under the current manager I can't see it happening. He's best of at Villa under John Terry until the summer.Really think if possible we should bring him back in January and try to ship out Jones or Rojo.
Give him a run - can he do any worse than what we have?
So no other PL team wanted him on loan? He is in the Championship because he has things to learn. Again, we have no idea how he would handle playing at LCB. I rate Tuanzebe but I rate Lindelof as well.What on earth are you talking about?
What other people say on this forum is their opnion and you should address them directly not start ranting to me.
I've said ever since we wasted money on Lindelof that Tuanzebe was the better player. The only reason he's playing in the championship is due to Mourinho. Tuanzebe is just as good on the ball, is much stronger and quicker than the Swede.
The championship is probably a tougher league than the Portuguese league minus the big 3. Can't remember anyone wanting Lindelof either when he was being chased by us.So no other PL team wanted him on loan? He is in the Championship because he has things to learn. Again, we have no idea how he would handle playing at LCB. I rate Tuanzebe but I rate Lindelof as well.
Why dont you understand that its good we have both?The championship is probably a tougher league than the Portuguese league minus the big 3. Can't remember anyone wanting Lindelof either when he was being chased by us.
Tuanzebe along with Bailly could be a promising pairing. Both have fantastic pace, good on the ball and are physically very strong.
I'm very confident that before long many will agree that Tuanzebe is a bigger talent than Lindelof.