[sev1]

Arsenal supporter here. Think that was a fair result for the football on display. I think we had the edge in the final 20 or so but not going to whine about the result.

I thought we were hurt massively by Holding and Ramsey's injuries. I know many of you haven't watched us but Holding has been solid in either a back 3 or back 4 and losing him hurt. Lichsteiner, while experienced, is a significant downgrade at either RB or CB.

Losing Ramsey, however, was absolutely massive. Without Xhaka or Ozil, we didn't really have any high quality players on the ball to threaten offensively. I know Mikhi came on and put in a credible performance, but he doesn't have that chaos factor that creates chances out of nothing that Ramsey has.

Not a classic performance from either squad but entertaining at least. I'll take the point away.

 

[tomaldinho1]

We just don't create anything, it's terrifying how easy it is to defend against us at the moment.

 

[Web of Bissaka]

Who the F decide this MOTM?!! So apparently Matic is the MOTM.


At least he have the decency to share it with the rest of the team.

 

[nainaisson]

Nice to have centre-backs playing in the centre-back postion again. No more midfielders as centre-backs, please. I don't care if it means we can't build out from the back. I'd rather watch boring long ball football than suffer through another flimsy back line with McTominay and Matic.

 

[Steerpike]

An enjoyable match - not often I've been able to say that this season - but very evident how far both sides are away from the top teams in the league. I was pleased to see a United team playing with some intensity, and more of the same for the rest of the season would be very welcome.

Our stand out performers, for me, were Herrera, Matic, Darmian and Rashford. I would have added Rojo to the list - and I still think he had a decent game - but for his error which cost us a goal.

We lost something when Lingard went off. Even though he had a curate's egg of a game (too many misplaced passes), I thought his energy and running off the ball posed problems for Arsenal.

I was surprised to find we had three centre backs fit enough to play (I was only expecting one), and it was good to see Rojo back. Perhaps if he can stay fit and get a run of games behind him, he can solve our left-sided centre back problem. Bailly had a fair game, but his old problem of a lack of composure was evident near the end (this may have been in part due to tiredness - he did go down with cramp at one point).

Perhaps the biggest surprise was how well Matic played. He looked sharper, and played at a better pace than he has for a long time.

Regarding Pogba, his cameo appearance off the bench didn't really answer any questions. He was fairly anonymous in his short time on the pitch, and the simple fact is that the team played better without him. I still don't think he, or the manager, will be here at the start of next season.

 

[Pat_Mustard]

At least it was entertaining and we didn't lose. It's a surreal feeling going into these matches feeling like we're the underdogs though, and being pleasantly surprised when we create some chances and come out with a point.

 

[Canagel]

"At least we didn't lose" , "entertaining game" , " at least there was a bit of intensity"
ffs how much lower can the expectations be? Entertaining but we didn't barely created any clear cut chances in first half. Was a bit better for 10 minutes start of tthe second half but that's it. infact the best ones fell to Arsenal and again DDG had save us. It says everything that Arsenal will come out of that game dissapointed they dropped 2 points. And their manager arrived 3 months ago and has got his team well drilled playing with an identity managing more than ours has in 3 years and with 400 million spending money . Our 3 most expensive signings didn't make the starting 11 which is crazy but there we go. the solution is to give the manager even more money according to some

 

[Red1968]

I've watched a lot of games vs the Gunners going all the way back to the 1979 FA cup. I don't remember a United team being so afraid of an Arsenal squad especially at Old Trafford but that's what I saw today. We were a defensive shambles, so sloppy and we were lucky Arsenal didn't score 4 or 5. Once again our attack looked disjointed and without any kind of quality. Jose has long ago lost the room and something you would think, has to give soon.

 

[tieunhilang]

"At least we didn't lose" , "entertaining game" , " at least there was a bit of intensity"
ffs how much lower can the expectations be? Entertaining but we didn't barely created any clear cut chances in first half. Was a bit better for 10 minutes start of tthe second half but that's it. infact the best ones fell to Arsenal and again DDG had save us. It says everything that Arsenal will come out of that game dissapointed they dropped 2 points. And their manager arrived 3 months ago and has got his team well drilled playing with an identity managing more than ours has in 3 years and with 400 million spending money . Our 3 most expensive signings didn't make the starting 11 which is crazy but there we go. the solution is to give the manager even more money according to some

Before the match, everyone and their dogs on here was expecting a 8-2 revenge from Arsenal in such an ideal circumstance for them. Turns out they had to rely on our own mistakes to come back alive from Old Trafford with 1 point. It's not strange that people feel relieved. It's not "lower the expectations", it's being realistic based on the current situation.

 

[Betson]

Hardly a decent result in the context of this season,we're still 8 points off 5th with a negative goal differential to start December

I said it was decent in the context of the form we are in.

In reality we are not that much more than a mid table team right now and pts against teams above us are going to be few and far between.

We are not good enough for top 4. Crazy to say that with the money we have spent but that is the reality of it right now.

 

[Yagami]

I chose not to watch. Really glad I did as I had a good night. Might give the next one a miss, too, depending on plans. So much less stress.

 

[Cloud7]

Didn't we beat man city 3 2 away this year. For shame.

I was actually working that day and missed that game, so I didn’t get to share in the excitement properly

 

[Class of 63]

Just watched it, and bloody enjoyed it, there i've said it

 

[haram]

I chose not to watch. Really glad I did as I had a good night. Might give the next one a miss, too, depending on plans. So much less stress.

Why don't you just support another team.

 

[Yagami]

Why don't you just support another team.

Because I support United.

 

[haram]

Because I support United.

When we are winning?

 

[Yagami]

When we are winning?

No, I still support them right now. I don't have to watch every game, though. Life is too short to be getting stressed out over trivial things which, where United have been concerned, I have been doing.

you need to get off your high horse.

 

[UncleBob]

Even his biggest critics are conceding that he did not do the buying.

I see this being repeated over and over again, but does anyone actually have anything substantial to back this claim up with, that we've signed players that the manager wasn't interested in ?

 

[Class of 63]

15 games in, 8th in the league GD -1 Man city +38 .. and 90% of my mates are city fans,..

I thought the team worked hard, but as soon as lukaku pogba fellaini came on arsenal found more gaps due to the lack of pressing,

i fully expected a defeat tonight so a point is a plus just a shame with chelsea dropping and if we could have stole the 3 points tonight it might have gave me a slim hope ..

Thats terrible, and I thought my life was shit....

 

[ravi2]

We didn’t create a single chance in the last 20 minutes while supposedly chasing the game. Our midfield play was so shocking with Fellaini there, we simply couldn’t build up with that oaf in there. As long as our manager uses outdated tactics and physical players over more technical ones, we’ll continue to not get anywhere.

Mourinho out.

I really dislike his hoof the ball to Fellaini tactic. It seriously stagnates our play... We might as well play with 10 men out there

 

[ravi2]

Its really weird shit, game ended 2:2 and watching us play tonight, there wasnt a single moment where i was like "damn this is football" when it comes to attacking, period after Lukaku got in wont even mention, it was like watching something paralyzed.

With lukaku and Fellaini on, we might as well play with 9 men out there. When they are on, the little cohesiveness we have disappears.

 

[Class of 63]

Even his biggest critics are conceding that he did not do the buying.

Well no, he didn't actually get his wallet out, but....

 

[Class of 63]

Staggered at all the bad comments .It was at least entertaining and for once most of the players put a real shift in.i thought bailley and Rojo particularly as they were so ring rusty were excellent ( gutted for Rojo that his mistake led to a goal ) .
Martial looked lively as did Rashford for once a battling display especially given the number of injuries .
Herrera for me MOTM
Pogba and Lukaku as usual were true to form when they came on ie useless we looked far better without them.
Can’t wait for Pogba to leave and someone needs to tell Lukaku that the only way is down , he is so lucky to be at United and no other top club will be in for him when we hopefully sell him .

Great start to your post, then you mentioned Herrera and it went to pot.

 

[Laphroaig]

Really weird and entertaining game. Arsenal obviously better but DDG won a point, though he cost a goal. Energetic front three was good. Bailly was good. Fellaini and Rojo have no brain. And what is the crowd doing singing 'we want you to stay'? Treachery.

Wtf? Arsenal were shockingly bad - I thought they'd turned good. Another two points thrown away against shit opposition for us.

 

[MUmyteam]

I enjoyed 1st half when I saw them trying to win, felt entertaining when comparing their performance to past several matches...until the first substitute Lukaku walked in, then Fellaini, then Pogba

 

[ravi2]

Even his biggest critics are conceding that he did not do the buying.

That's bullshit

 

[ravi2]

United showed good character to come back and equalise twice and when you consider they came back to draw at Southampton having 2:0 down then I think the morale in the dressing room can't be that bad can it?

The first thing Mourinho has got to do is stop giving sport writer's easy headlines. Saying Pogba is a virus etc is a truly ridiculous thing to do. He bought Pogba. For a British record fee. He is manager for Manchester United not a script writer for Coronation Street.
I wouldn't agree with him banging on about effort in the program notes. Stop criticising your players in public. They have shown they give a shit by coming back in two consecutive matches.
Look at yourself Jose. The only player in his squad that would make City's starting 11 is DDG and he inherited him. Given that he has spent 360m in 27 months that is simply unacceptable.
His line ups are just erratic lately. I was gobsmacked by todays starting 11 though maybe injuries forced his hand. Arsenal are frail defensively so why not give Lukaku a chance to wreak havoc with his power. Sure Lukaku ain't RVP but he could have unsettled Arsenal tonight.
Why does he spend 50m on a Brazilian midfielder and not give him a chance especially with the amount of injuries he has.
I think the United board need to grow a pair and make Mourinho accountable for his actions. Whoever gave him an extended contract after the Europa League Final win needs shooting.

That would be Woodward, who is as culpable as Jose for the mess United are in at the moment.

Great post, mufc needs serious changes from the top down to avoid being the noisy neighbours on a permanent basis

 

[ravi2]

Why don't you just support another team.

Most of my United supporting friends have found better shit to do. They still support united, but the matches aren't must see tv anymore. That is the sad fact

 

[Class of 63]

That would be Woodward, who is as culpable as Jose for the mess United are in at the moment.

Great post, mufc needs serious changes from the top down to avoid being the noisy neighbours on a permanent basis

Culpable or not, yer man from la-la land is suggesting Ed Woodward should be shot which let's be honest is a bit harsh, sent to bed with no supper maybe, or.....

 

[haram]

No, I still support them right now. I don't have to watch every game, though. Life is too short to be getting stressed out over trivial things which, where United have been concerned, I have been doing.

you need to get off your high horse.

Apologies, you obviously don't care that much about United if you deem them trivial. I don't mean to sound condescending when I say that, people value the team they support differently from others.

 

[Yorkeontop]

Europa league ain't so bad and it is our level.

 

[Yagami]

Apologies, you obviously don't care that much about United if you deem them trivial. I don't mean to sound condescending when I say that, people value the team they support differently from others.

Nah, you don't need to apologise. I know all about you and your condescending posts to a lot on here. I didn't expect anything more from you.

When you grow up, you'll realise there's a lot more important things than football. Enjoy it while you can, though. Life catches up fast.

 

[haram]

Nah, you don't need to apologise. I know all about you and your condescending posts to a lot on here. I didn't expect anything more from you.

When you grow up, you'll realise there's a lot more important things than football. Enjoy it while you can, thouh. Life catches up.

Literally just said that I understand it does not mean that much to you...

 

[Yagami]

Literally just said that I understand it does not mean that much to you...

You're wrong on that. You shouldn't just assume you know how someone feels on something like you do. I've disagreed with a lot of your posts on here but I've never insulted you or labelled you a poor fan.

United mean a lot to me. I'm from Manchester, have been a fan my whole life, and go to the odd game when I can afford it/have the free time. My dad supported them his whole life, too. Some of his best memories were in fact following United across the country in the lower divisions. It runs in the family.

I've had a tough time in life recently and kinda wanna take my mind off it and try and enjoy myself. United, at the moment, is just adding to the stress so I opted to give this match a miss. I still love the club but sometimes you just need a break.

 

[haram]

You're wrong on that. You shouldn't just assume you know how someone feels on something like you do. I've disagreed with a lot of your posts on here but I've never insulted you or labelled you a poor fan.

United mean a lot to me. I'm from Manchester, have been a fan my whole life, and go to the odd game when I can afford it/have the free time. My dad supported them his whole life, too. Some of his best memories were in fact following United across the country in the lower divisions. It runs in the family.

I've had a tough time in life recently and kinda wanna take my mind off it and try and enjoy myself. United, at the moment, is just adding to the stress so I opted to give this match a miss. I still love the club but sometimes you just need a break.

Well you said it was trivial and I said I understood. I also said I didn't mean to sound condescending in the same post.

 

[Yagami]

Well you said it was trivial and I said I understood. I also said I didn't mean to sound condescending in the same post.

As much as I love football and United, it is trivial, don't you think? I mean, when it's all said and done, football is just a form of entertainment. I still get passionate about it because I love the thing, and it is important to me, but there are bigger things in life that are more important.

 

[haram]

As much as I love football and United, it is trivial, don't you think? I mean, when it's all said and done, football is just a form of entertainment. I still get passionate about it because I love the thing, and it is important to me, but there are bigger things in life that are more important.

Of course there are bigger things in life. You do realise that your original post came across as if they didn't matter at all though?

 

[Yagami]

Of course there are bigger things in life. You do realise that your original post came across as if they didn't matter at all though?

Well I didn't mean it to come across that way so my bad. If they didn't matter at all I wouldn't have as many posts as I do on here, ha. I'd also have a lot more money, too!

 

[haram]

Well I didn't mean it to come across that way so my bad. If they didn't matter at all I wouldn't have as many posts as I do on here, ha. I'd also have a lot more money, too!

Well, again, I apologise if I offended you.

 

[devilish]

Who the F decide this MOTM?!! So apparently Matic is the MOTM.


At least he have the decency to share it with the rest of the team.

it must be Moaninho