It doesn't matter because he gives 100% and so therefore should always be starting and Pogba can replace him when he comes off.....oh wait, he never does. Nevermind then, sell Pogba.
Mourinho at full time: "Pogba a virus. You don't play. You don't respect players/fans" [Castles]
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Pogba was wearing headphones during the game while on the bench. Commitment level for the team?
Most things we read in the media are mere rumours. I don't know if this Pogba is a virus thing is true or not but I believe the idea that Jose has bad relationships with his players is a false narrative considering what some of the players have recently said. And the way they are playing lately, certainly doesn't seem like they are not playing for their manager. Except of course, for Pogba.
Really? I didn't notice that.
He is also involved in every chance we conceeded.
No he hasn't.
He holds onto the ball too long, loses the ball, doesn't track back. Has he ever sprinted? He jogs about the place like a prancing pony.
88th minute they showed Pogba on the bench. He had ear buds in.
I took a screen shot but don’t know how to post images. But I posted it to imgur if you would like a link
I took a screen shot but don’t know how to post images. But I posted it to imgur if you would like a link
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I'd love to see that link, because I've just watched back minute 86-90 and all I see near Pogba's ears is the red cord of the beanie he's wearing...
That’s what I saw, I guess it’s just a red cord from his beanie? I guess I mistook that for a headphone cable. Didn’t make sense that there would be a red string hanging from the beanie.
if he had ear buds in that would surely be all over the papers
It's just a cord to pull the beanie tighter and I guess to make it fit for all sizes. I took a screenshot but in realtime you can see it more clearly.
Totally makes more sense that he'd be listening to music though, of course
Most chances created and he's been involved directly or indirectly in the most amount of goals in the squad since he's played here so the stats back up him being our best outfield player but you lot hellbent on scapegoating him will see what you want to see just as the guy who imagined him wearing earbuds on the bench
Also in regards to sprinting,who in this team really runs outside of Rashford and Lingard? The whole squad is at the bottom of distance covered in the league,it's not an individual issue as you're making it seem. It's been an issue with the whole squad not just one or 2 isolated cases
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people are really reaching to find "proof" of Pogba's lack of commitment. I'm surprised Duncan didn't use the headphones bit in this article.i haven't scapegoated anyone what are you smoking? I just don't think he has been pulling up any trees. Nor do the likes of Scholes and Rio but what do they know.Most chances created and he's been involved directly or indirectly in the most amount of goals in the squad since he's played here so the stats back up him being our best outfield player but you lot hellbent on scapegoating him will see what you want to see just as the guy who imagined him wearing earbuds on the bench
Also in regards to sprinting,who in this team really runs outside of Rashford and Lingard? The whole squad is at the bottom of distance covered in the league,it's not an individual issue as you're making it seem. It's been an issue with the whole squad not just one or 2 isolated cases
And then thought "I'll go on the Car and post another negative Pogba post"?
Most over rated player thats played and signed for United in years, but also underrated by the other half.
Reality is the France NT is extremely stacked, and would and should've won the world cup without him, labelling him as a World Cup winner and parading it around as if he has some special privileges is a joke. He was maybe a top 5 player in their team, and that still doesn't mean hes world class because hes extremely inconsistent. He himself has enough of an ego as it is due to several things including his world cup victory, you can see it also in jokers like Griezzmann who's deluded himself into thinking hes the best player in the world, let alone top 10 at a stretch.
Us fans (me included) have fought and argued for why Pogba wasnt consistent for years at this point. The formation doesnt suit him, he needs better partners, etc. We've tried literally everything and he is still inconsistent as ever. A much less talented player like Herrerra is more consistent in you know what you get out of him, Pogba is a wild card as he can look like a world beater or an absolute clown like hes looked against Sevilla and Southampton.
A player like that isnt worth the head ache, especially with his ego and agent. If we get a 100 mill + offer for him, whoever the manager is, we should let him go, we won't because hes a marketing dream for Woodward & co. but we definitely should. If he shines in a team that has quality in every position, like Juventus and France do, so be it. I'd rather take someone like Verratti, Casemiro, James, Pjanic, etc. for a much lower price and more consistency.
for instance, Fernandinho is MUCH more impactful for City then he is for us. Fernandinho. And you cant really argue against that
Reality is the France NT is extremely stacked, and would and should've won the world cup without him, labelling him as a World Cup winner and parading it around as if he has some special privileges is a joke. He was maybe a top 5 player in their team, and that still doesn't mean hes world class because hes extremely inconsistent. He himself has enough of an ego as it is due to several things including his world cup victory, you can see it also in jokers like Griezzmann who's deluded himself into thinking hes the best player in the world, let alone top 10 at a stretch.
Us fans (me included) have fought and argued for why Pogba wasnt consistent for years at this point. The formation doesnt suit him, he needs better partners, etc. We've tried literally everything and he is still inconsistent as ever. A much less talented player like Herrerra is more consistent in you know what you get out of him, Pogba is a wild card as he can look like a world beater or an absolute clown like hes looked against Sevilla and Southampton.
A player like that isnt worth the head ache, especially with his ego and agent. If we get a 100 mill + offer for him, whoever the manager is, we should let him go, we won't because hes a marketing dream for Woodward & co. but we definitely should. If he shines in a team that has quality in every position, like Juventus and France do, so be it. I'd rather take someone like Verratti, Casemiro, James, Pjanic, etc. for a much lower price and more consistency.
for instance, Fernandinho is MUCH more impactful for City then he is for us. Fernandinho. And you cant really argue against that
Post of the year?
Worst post of the year?
I don't know.
Out of interest, how old are you? My ex's nephew, from France, used to switch teams depending on who was doing best in the league in any particular year, when he was like, 10, or something.
In a thread questioning Pogba as a virus I see what I thought was Pogba wearing earbuds during a game which would indeed question his commitment and so I posted that. I was then later proven incorrect by Henrik who posted a proper retort to what I thought to be true. Are we not suppose to post anything negative towards players? If he had been wearing earbuds during the game (which has now been revealed as a string) would that not be fair game to comment on?
Spot on @RAVred
Good post.
Ive always said that Pogba makes great Youtube compilation videos, but he doesnt have the football brain to dictate games and i doubt he will carry us or any team to the top ever
This is my favourite point you've made. And another example is Kante for Chelsea. Pogba has more talent in a single foot than these 2 players have in their whole body, but what these players excel at is working for the team, and make the team function well in 95% of games.
When Pogba plays well we play well, too bad Pogba regularly puts out stinkers. I'd prefer a less talented and more functional player that has a high bottom level. Someone that puts out 7-8/10 performances like clockwork instead of Pogba who fluctuates between 3/10 and 10/10.
Sort of describing Ander Herrera there
so this is what We've come into, analyzing cables
I love herrerra but he cant be our best midfielder if we want to win or challenge for the league. We need someone of james, pjanic, verratti, casemiro type quality and consistency to be our main man in midfield. Maybe even Asensio or Isco if we get a more attacking coach
Asensio is completely overrated but I think he is ok player and nothing special compared to the like of Sterling, Mbappe, Sane, Martial, Dembele. Isco is very talented but fecking inconsistent and often hold on balls longer. James is also inconsistent. Pjanic and Verrati is a talented player who can deliver consistent performance.
If they play, they're playing for the manager and if they don't they disrespect the badge.
10 points for gymnastics.
10 points for gymnastics.
10 points for agenda gymnastics when there is none.If they play, they're playing for the manager and if they don't they disrespect the badge.
10 points for gymnastics.
Just an observation.
He probably jeezed himself from the thought of finding something to criticise Pogba about. The witch hunt in full force.
This is what the sheep on the caf do, they over analize and over scrutinise everything the player that's been targeted by Mourinho in that specific period.
Happened to both Shaw and Martial. Now it's Pogba's turn because Mourinho has started his public war and scapegoated him.
I remember Martial getting flack on these boards about some of the stupidest and pettiest things one could think of. Just wait and you'll see much worse to come in this scapegoating of Pogba. I'm used to agenda posters on the caf and now I just laugh and shake my head because I know they don't know any better.
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Look at the stats. Without Pogba we'd be bottom half of the table... Its clear you have a bias against him.
He has become public enemy number one.
Can't wait till we press the reset button.
Can't wait till we press the reset button.
Martial, Rashford now Pogba. I wonder who will be next until the season is out. I think Bailly might get some games soon, then he’ll throw him under the bus.
Gotta hand it to Mourinho, they way he's spinning this whole situation to imply Pogba is the issue. To make it even more bizarre Mourinho himself commented that lack of having Pogba vs. City was a huge blow, but now when we nuked the poor Fulham side "Pogba must have the same mentality as other players". Fact is with Pogba we would have blasted Fulham.
People that are buying all that and are OK with seeing the back of Pogba without even looking what he can do understand a different, more attacking manager, is the most bizarre thing of all.
Like I said criticism towards Pogba has shifted from "trying too hard" implying the he's trying too much on his own, which was somewhat expected considering he's more often than not our only creative, go-to-guy, to "he isn't trying hard enough" implying there's no "pashin and dessiah" in his game...
People that are buying all that and are OK with seeing the back of Pogba without even looking what he can do understand a different, more attacking manager, is the most bizarre thing of all.
Like I said criticism towards Pogba has shifted from "trying too hard" implying the he's trying too much on his own, which was somewhat expected considering he's more often than not our only creative, go-to-guy, to "he isn't trying hard enough" implying there's no "pashin and dessiah" in his game...
Jose will play him against Valencia and will bench him against Liverpool no matter how good he was, And will play Matic and Fellaini in midfield of three against Liverpool becuase he is Jose Mourinho.
What's your opinion on the sterling incident?
Still just people seeing what they want to see?
Or are you more willing to accept there is a huge issue of racism in football?
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