He can't even do that properly, so what is the point keeping him?
Man Utd set to appoint Director of Football (when hell freezes over)
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Smacks me as a leak from Ed to appease the fans and subtly blame Jose.
Here, no, but in the press, yes.
At the moment the story is Jose and the team; who is to blame. No one seems to be seriously critiquing the board bar Neville.
Not really, at the moment the story is how the board isn't controlling the situation and only caring about the bottom line.
That article contradicts itself from start to finish.
Varane would never be sold for that money after WC and Real losing Ronaldo.
A crowd-pleaser of a news. No, we didn't want Maguire for 75, but best young defender in the world for 100. Right.
Mitten wrote the same thing in an article a couple of weeks ago. I wouldn't dismiss the story out of hand.
I have nothing to say.
Making top 4 now would requiring making history. At this stage of the season, at least in the PL era, no team has ever made up a gap even close to 11 points which separates us from Chelsea. We're as close to Crystal Palace in 15th. I don't think Fergie himself could make up that gap; especially since it would require one of the current top 4, plus Arsenal who are 3 points from 4th and 8 points clear of us, to both implode to some degree.
That's why we need a new manager NOW so that he can evaluate them for the rest of this season.
Why would anyone want Maguire for that money. It's that sort of foolishness that had us buying Lukaku for 75 million. That seems to have harmed the club more than anything.
I agree with that. Nobody should sanction such deal for Maguire, but I firmly believe we were never in for Varane. Why would Real sell you their most valuable defender at that price when Maguire is priced at £75m?
It was leaked after our window end up so underwhelming and it looked like it served just to calm the fans. Most people could tell Woodward right away he can't get Varane for £100m.
I dont mind them getting extended contracts, we need squad depth.
Rojo, Jones, Darmian and Valencia have no future at old trafford.
When I read that press brief, to me it didn't sound like we were talking about Varane specifically. The idea was that if a top callibre CB was available the club was happy to pay what was required to get him. But there wasn't, and the alternatives they were offered were either not good enough (i.e. Yerry Mina) or massively overpriced (Maguire)
We are reaching the Glazer peak, expect it to get a lot worse before any improvement is made. As long as the club is a licence for them to print money they will not sell.
Agree
I thought Young already signed a contract?
Meanwhile Woodward is reading this and parallely typing contract extensions worth 200k/w for each of these!
Was he at the u18s tonight? I was watching the game but missed the screen when the commentators were talking about him.
Young shouldn't have one either. Should be one of the first out the door along with the players you've mentioned. Sure, we'd be without an experienced FB, but it should still be about whether a player is good enough or not. Young has never consistently been good enough for United.
Woodward is the favourite person of the Glazers, which is why he has the say as far as what is going on at United right now. So there is the problem. Does anyone seriously think that he is suddenly going to make good signings in January? The guy is clueless as regards football matters. We are fecked...
During transfer windows Woodward has signed more sponsors than decent players.
The club needs a shakeover from the very top to the very bottom. United is currently run by people who could not give a toss if another trophy is won as long as the cash keeps rolling in.
You are right in the sense the press brief hinted that the board didn't see the value in Jose targets and wanted bigger name/quality for their money, but they directly mentioned Varane in absolutely every report..
United did have significant money available for summer signings and would have paid in excess of £100m for Raphaël Varane if the French World Cup winner had been available from Real Madrid. Woodward had breakfast with Real’s president, Florentino Pérez, over the summer but nothing came of it.
The leak was embarassing though. They brought themselves down on Jose level by arguing through papers and washing their hands right before the season started. Not to mention, again, that the price or attempt to go for Varane out of all defenders was pretty dumb to even put in the news.
I am more and more sure that this board is not just inept, but borderline stupid, at least when we talk about dealing with crises in the club.
Maybe they will do better if they finally get the right manager.
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Indeed. I have already lost all hope until next season. Very less hopes for that too. We are becoming Liverpool of 2009-15
Yes he was. Like I mentioned in a post earlier, he must have some sense. Being at the game today, maybe PR, shows he knows what our clubs core values are.
Or maybe he really believes he is our DoF?!
How's Disneyland looking, Ed?
Worse t ime s are coming as long as that Woodward idiot is in control under the Glazers we are really up shit creek.
Yes he was. Like I mentioned in a post earlier, he must have some sense. Being at the game today, maybe PR, shows he knows what our clubs core values are.
Or maybe he really believes he is our DoF?!
Hopefully he is thinking of giving Nicky Butt a shot once Jose goes
Do not go to the matches, withold your support let the Glazers get worried. They may just sell then who knows.
If the club seriously reward those 3 players with a extended stay at Old Trafford even after failing to perform for a long time then you can only conclude that our board is one of the worst in the top 5 Leagues in Europe when it comes to football related decisions. Players that do not perform up to standards after 2-3 years should always be told to feck off or face a hostile stay until they leave by letting them rot in the reserves and their career ruined. Players should never be comfortable with failure on the pitch but it seems like almost our entire squad is just that because there are no consequences for failure here.
I wouldn't be happy about that. I think we've made a lot of mistakes with contract extensions recently, Shaw got one after a few decent games despite being anything but decent the rest of his time here. Realistically, Mata and Young have more than outstayed their welcome here. We should be looking to move them on in the summer ideally.
I have no faith whatsoever that the people in charge of the club will pick the correct person for DOF.
A lot of people on here want it to be a long-term strategic position, but when we appoint the wrong guy, does he get sacked independently of the manager? What is the DOF’s success criteria?
Unless he’s given control over transfers and/or scouting, which he absolutely won’t be, he’ll just be another windbag sticking his opinion into the mess we already have.
A lot of people on here want it to be a long-term strategic position, but when we appoint the wrong guy, does he get sacked independently of the manager? What is the DOF’s success criteria?
Unless he’s given control over transfers and/or scouting, which he absolutely won’t be, he’ll just be another windbag sticking his opinion into the mess we already have.
Been thinking the same thing. I don't like what that article is suggesting, Mourinho having a say in it makes me worried he'll get either a "yes" man or someone very like-minded. He shouldn't have any say in it at all really, considering the DoF will hopefully be here for a long time after Mourinho's gone. At least the board are getting input on someone who actually knows something about football, silver linings and all that.
The convenient DoF update after a bad week for the club.
The same thing was reported about a couple of months ago. We're gonna wait till he's gone before we modernise the setup. It's just frustrating that they won't relieve him now..
then sack the cnut
Dont know why getting a DOF if now before Mourinho leaves is such a bad idea.
Why not prepare the next manager with a DOF now?
The club is dragging its feet to sort out the mess it is currently in. There is no communication or indication on how this is going to be fixed from anyone in the club.
Someone start burning piles of United cash and hopefully we get some sort of a response or reaction.
Why not prepare the next manager with a DOF now?
The club is dragging its feet to sort out the mess it is currently in. There is no communication or indication on how this is going to be fixed from anyone in the club.
Someone start burning piles of United cash and hopefully we get some sort of a response or reaction.
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This depends on Woodward being interested in the football finesse aspects of the club.
He simply does not think the way we fans do.
They are desperate to save £6m (£18m payout vs £24m) by waiting until top 4 is mathematically gone.
I don't believe it's £6m because Duncan Castles is reporting it. He's so biased towards Mourinho I don't believe a word he writes.
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