Did he win 3 CL and 1 La Liga before he was appointed Real Madrid manager? What an odd comparison to make.Zinedine Zidane : Won 3 Champions League in a row + 1 La Liga
Ole Gunnar Solksjaer : Won 4-1 against Cardiff City
Did he win 3 CL and 1 La Liga before he was appointed Real Madrid manager? What an odd comparison to make.Zinedine Zidane : Won 3 Champions League in a row + 1 La Liga
Ole Gunnar Solksjaer : Won 4-1 against Cardiff City
I love this post because it's based on fact and sound reasoning.Like we were discussing the other day, we'd have documentaries and movies made, books written about how a manager who failed at Cardiff, came back to his home and covered a 19 point gap at the top, winning all 34 games he was in charge of.
We, believers, would be interviewed 30 years later when they make a big budget documentary on this title win of ours, and we'd be talking with tears in our eyes, about how we scored 5 past every team, and 6 past City and 8 past Pool. We'd be talking about how we demolished a PSG side with Mbappe, Cavani and Neymar and how Buffon just stood between the goalposts and applauded us. We'd be talking about how we beat RM and then Barca en route to final before we demolished Juve, leaving CR7 in tears, at Wanda Metropolitan.
Happy Ole Day Fishy!
Yes... if he won 3 league in a row then yes he can be our zidane.Did he win 3 CL and 1 La Liga before he was appointed Real Madrid manager? What an odd comparison to make.
If things do start to go sour and some fans start turning on Ole (although we are all entitled to our opinion) I will be very, very disappointed .Will be interesting to see some of these fans turn their back on OGS if things start to go sour.
Just wish we could enjoy the now without putting unrealistic expectations on Solskjær.
Not if we never give him the job cos we're chasing big name managers. Thats basically my fear regarding United; that we won't take the leap of faith like Barca or Real to give the job to Ole. They're reaping the rewards of a risky appointment that could have blown up in their faces whereas we only go for proven names that end up blowing in our faces anyways.Yes... if he won 3 league in a row then yes he can be our zidane.
I feel the same buddy.If things do start to go sour and some fans start turning on Ole (although we are all entitled to our opinion) I will be very, very disappointed .
Ole is a legend helping us out our time of need. People expecting Ole to perform brilliant things (Although I think he will do well) should just enjoy each game, see how the results go and just take things one game at a time and see how it goes.
I said nothing about experience. Zidane was with the Madrid setup for several years before becoming manager. He was first involved with scouting then managing the B-team. This meant he was already integrated into the setup and so knew what most of the players were about. He was preparing to manage the first team.Ole became a part of Fergie's staff after he retired as a player. Following that he was coaching the reserves team for a couple of years. That should more or less equal Zidane's experience before named manager for Real.
In addition to that, Ole has managerial experience from a club where he failed, and from a club where he won league titles and punched above his teams weight in the Europa League.
I'm not saying he is going to succeed, but he is by no means less qualified for the position than Zidane was.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ole_Gunnar_Solskjær#First_step_into_coaching
Well we've given him a try. Let's see where we are at the end of the season.Not if we never give him the job cos we're chasing big name managers. Thats basically my fear regarding United; that we won't take the leap of faith like Barca or Real to give the job to Ole. They're reaping the rewards of a risky appointment that could have blown up in their faces whereas we only go for proven names that end up blowing in our faces anyways.
I agree. Sometimes its simply finding the right fit for the setup.If he does really well in the next 5 months, he should at least be considered for the permanent position.
It's a no-lose situation for Ole, if he gets the club winning consistently again and has the team playing in the traditional United way then he would have performed nothing short of a miracle, should the opposite occur; the team continue on the downward spiral set by his predecessor, well, it was to be expected. Ole will be spared any criticism, rather the blame will be placed firmly at the feet of the owners and the players if it goes south.If things do start to go sour and some fans start turning on Ole (although we are all entitled to our opinion) I will be very, very disappointed .
Ole is a legend helping us out our time of need. People expecting Ole to perform brilliant things (Although I think he will do well) should just enjoy each game, see how the results go and just take things one game at a time and see how it goes.
That is optimistic. I think we got a chance, but still there are much bigger favorites out there.What an incredible game it was as well - arguably our most positive team performance since SAF retired.
You would be crazy to bet against Ole and United winning the CL this year. It's nailed on.
This.Christ, all these OGS threads after one match, it's embarrassing. Relax lads, enjoy the Xmas and don't get too excited.
Only about today's gameChrist, all these OGS threads after one match, it's embarrassing. Relax lads, enjoy the Xmas and don't get too excited.
So?He's won one game.
We used to, but people abused it too much with daft predictions.@Damien Considering that a lot of us are expecting us to score more than 5 one of these days (and we all know we will do that, its just a matter of time), could you please add in more options in the Score Prediction dropdown?
Thanks!
But we still do it, no? like the 0-5 losses we were predicting earlierWe used to, but people abused it too much with daft predictions.
Better than the 9-7, 9-8, 9-0 predictions there used to be.But we still do it, no? like the 0-5 losses we were predicting earlier
You had one task...get the scoreline right, and failed even at that.Zinedine Zidane : Won 3 Champions League in a row + 1 La Liga
Ole Gunnar Solksjaer : Won 4-1 against Cardiff City
They can make risky appointments. They have two competitors. Real Madrid have had a bad season yet in champions league spots. We had a bad season and like 10 points behind.Not if we never give him the job cos we're chasing big name managers. Thats basically my fear regarding United; that we won't take the leap of faith like Barca or Real to give the job to Ole. They're reaping the rewards of a risky appointment that could have blown up in their faces whereas we only go for proven names that end up blowing in our faces anyways.
My main point was that Solskjær was a part of the staff at United. Ha was a part of SAFs coaching staff, and then managed the reserves team, including a certain Paul Pogba, from 2008 to 2010. In addition to that has more experience as a manager. He also played for the club for 11 years. He knows the club.I said nothing about experience. Zidane was with the Madrid setup for several years before becoming manager. He was first involved with scouting then managing the B-team. This meant he was already integrated into the setup and so knew what most of the players were about. He was preparing to manage the first team.
Ole was a casual watcher of this team until the board called him up, he was not prepared to manage these players and so will need time to understand the ins and outs. Considering that he has 5 months to work, it is basically not possible to have success like Zidane. He'll be spending most of this time learning about the squad.
None of that is all that relevant to winning multiple CLs. Knowing the club doesn't mean you don't need to learn about the squad, to adapt his system to the personell, to adapt to the league etc.My main point was that Solskjær was a part of the staff at United. Ha was a part of SAFs coaching staff, and then managed the reserves team, including a certain Paul Pogba, from 2008 to 2010. In addition to that has more experience as a manager. He also played for the club for 11 years. He knows the club.
That's where the experience form managing 400 club games and experiencing both relegation and trophies kicks in. Him knowing the club means he won't be shocked of the clubs sheer size like Moyes did, and that he knows what's demanded of him and the players.None of that is all that relevant to winning multiple CLs. Knowing the club doesn't mean you don't need to learn about the squad, to adapt his system to the personell, to adapt to the league etc.
Zidane's success had nothing to do with 'knowing the club'. He had worked with many of these players as part of the back room staff. He also inherited a squad stacked with world class players like Marcelo, Ramos, Kroos, Modric, Bale, Ronaldo.
Him knowing the club leading to success is just romanticism and fantasy. There is so much more to it that knowing the club is only just important for fans.
I'm not the one writing Ole off, that's the club that did it.That's where the experience form managing 400 club games and experiencing both relegation and trophies kicks in. Him knowing the club means he won't be shocked of the clubs sheer size like Moyes did, and that he knows what's demanded of him and the players.
One thing they do have in common is that few thought Zidane would succeed as well. Writing Solskjær off is just as stupid as saying he will have the same success as Zidane or Guardiola.
He obviously won't win three CL on the trot, but he still might be a good manager for the club.
What's the rush in awarding Ole a full-time contract when the board can use the next 6 months to not only assess his performance in the role but look for more suitable candidates in the event that it doesn't work out for him - namely Poch.I'm not the one writing Ole off, that's the club that did it.
I have said that I would have liked Ole to be given a two year contract so he can have a good go. But he's been hired as interim manager. The club have not backed him as a proper manager, and so the chances of him winning the big competitions is slim to none.
Best post I have ever read, hands downLike we were discussing the other day, we'd have documentaries and movies made, books written about how a manager who failed at Cardiff, came back to his home and covered a 19 point gap at the top, winning all 34 games he was in charge of.
We, believers, would be interviewed 30 years later when they make a big budget documentary on this title win of ours, and we'd be talking with tears in our eyes, about how we scored 5 past every team, and 6 past City and 8 past Pool. We'd be talking about how we demolished a PSG side with Mbappe, Cavani and Neymar and how Buffon just stood between the goalposts and applauded us. We'd be talking about how we beat RM and then Barca en route to final before we demolished Juve, leaving CR7 in tears, at Wanda Metropolitan.
Happy Ole Day Fishy!
Like we were discussing the other day, we'd have documentaries and movies made, books written about how a manager who failed at Cardiff, came back to his home and covered a 19 point gap at the top, winning all 34 games he was in charge of.
We, believers, would be interviewed 30 years later when they make a big budget documentary on this title win of ours, and we'd be talking with tears in our eyes, about how we scored 5 past every team, and 6 past City and 8 past Pool. We'd be talking about how we demolished a PSG side with Mbappe, Cavani and Neymar and how Buffon just stood between the goalposts and applauded us. We'd be talking about how we beat RM and then Barca en route to final before we demolished Juve, leaving CR7 in tears, at Wanda Metropolitan.
Happy Ole Day Fishy!
I'm happy to just sit back and see how it all pans out without getting too worked up about what ifs.Zidane has nothing to show for, yes, he won the CL. But he did take over a complete functioning squad with world class players that probably would have won the CL with no manager.
Poch is known to make the club my way or no way. This is exactly what has gone wrong 3x since Sir Alex!
Oles only experience is from Norwegian football where he has learned to build a new team each year. It's not easy to win just because it's a lower ranked league.
Hodgeson managed Viking in Norway for years without winning anything. Ole made made a winning team for the first time in over 100 years.
Put Poch in the Norwegian league and he still won't be better than number 4! You need to find a player that finds the league attracts, accepts the wages and so on. And when you lose your best players year after year it's hard but you learn to build teams!
Zidane will only accept to take over a 100% functional team with world class players that are able to manage them self!
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13 Points off Citeh as they slip to a defeat against Leicester City and face a resurgent Saints away and Liverpool at home.
Spurs and Liverpool kind of won their games and didn't drop any points yet but I'm already sure OGS is fixing it up right this moment with Sir Fergie
5 points from top 4 already with Chelsea and Arsenal having late games. Will update if there are more dropped points. (I have Alonso and Aubameyang in my FPL team, if that's not a jinx I don't know what a fecking jinx is)
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I’ll take Solskjaer without any trophies for next 3 years if we keep playing attacking football and promoting youth- rather then Zidane and 3 CL trophies. Short term glory vs Manchester United’s traditions is a easy choise for me. No way Zidane would be here for the long term.That's where the experience form managing 400 club games and experiencing both relegation and trophies kicks in. Him knowing the club means he won't be shocked of the clubs sheer size like Moyes did, and that he knows what's demanded of him and the players.
One thing they do have in common is that few thought Zidane would succeed as well. Writing Solskjær off is just as stupid as saying he will have the same success as Zidane or Guardiola.
He obviously won't win three CL on the trot, but he still might be a good manager for the club.