How close is Aguero to Henry/Shearer?

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He's in the conversation as the EPL's greatest striker. If he was playing for one of the historic clubs, there won't be any argument.
 

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Don't see how he is close to Henry. Shearer could be debatable I think.
 

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Henry is top one, I don't think that's debatable. Aguero's goals per minute ratio and goals against big teams sets him apart from others though, he's definitely in that slot below Henry.
 

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It's because he's playing for City, a team nobody really cares about.

If Augero had that record playing for Utd or Arsenal or Liverpool I think he'd be seen as the best.
 

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It's because he's playing for City, a team nobody really cares about.

If Augero had that record playing for Utd or Arsenal or Liverpool I think he'd be seen as the best.
No they won't. How many top goal scorer of the year awards has he won? How many player of the year has he won? What does he do outside of goalscoring?

Henry was more than a striker. FFS he has the assist record in the EPL! There is no comparison. Better finisher, better team player, more intelligent, faster.

There is a reason no elite side really tried hard for him.
 

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I think Henry is undoubtably the greatest player in the PL, he is also the face of The Invincibles. He dominated the league like no other.

Aguero is a incredibly consistent, but he lacks that extra spark which Henry had.
 

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No they won't. How many top goal scorer of the year awards has he won? How many player of the year has he won? What does he do outside of goalscoring?

Henry was more than a striker. FFS he has the assist record in the EPL! There is no comparison. Better finisher, better team player, more intelligent, faster.

There is a reason no elite side really tried hard for him.
He's an incredible, incredible striker. Him not getting player of the year awards is the whole point of the thread.

I don't know why no elite team has gone for him, i wish they had and he'd left City years ago.

Henry is the only one with an argument for being above Augero.
 

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Don’t think he’ll ever get that love because he plays for a nothing club. Fantastic player but if he had his premier league career for United/Liverpool/Arsenal, a lot more would be made of him.
 

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I think aguero is more fowler than shearer, whose candle burned longer.

Talent to be the best one around but for various reasons, injuries topping the list, never ends up putting it all together to really be the player he can be and shows himself to be on occasion.

Better player than fowler at the end of the day obviously, but by way of analogy.
 
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He's class and definitely one of the best strikers in the PL era, but plays for an insignificant club, so nobody will remember or care in ten years.
 

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He's in the conversation as the EPL's greatest striker. If he was playing for one of the historic clubs, there won't be any argument.
Yes, that and the fact that he misses close to 10 league games a season. He'll still surpass Henry's tally.
 

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Yes, that and the fact that he misses close to 10 league games a season. He'll still surpass Henry's tally.
Henry didn't start off as a striker...Henry's best goal scoring season trumps anything Aguero has done in his career. Not only that, Henry has the record for most assists in a season. Aguero is not on his level. Hell Suarez before he left for Barca performed at a higher level than Aguero. There is a reason no top side even made a play for him.
 

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Henry didn't start off as a striker...Henry's best goal scoring season trumps anything Aguero has done in his career. Not only that, Henry has the record for most assists in a season. Aguero is not on his level. Hell Suarez before he left for Barca performed at a higher level than Aguero. There is a reason no top side even made a play for him.
This is just nonsense, he's set to surpass Henry's goal to appearances ratio at this rate with significantly less appearances. No-one went for him because he probably wouldn't leave City, nor would they be willing to sell him unless he really wanted out. Do agree with the start bit and Suarez performing at a higher level, but this idea that he was so bad that a top side didn't bid for him is flawed
 

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Henry didn't start off as a striker...Henry's best goal scoring season trumps anything Aguero has done in his career. Not only that, Henry has the record for most assists in a season. Aguero is not on his level. Hell Suarez before he left for Barca performed at a higher level than Aguero. There is a reason no top side even made a play for him.
Hernry yes, Suarez no. Suarez time in England yielded a far worse minutes per goal ratio than Sergio's. Funny enough despite what you posted Sergio was Barca's first choice over Suarez but they were turned down flat.

Zubizarreta told Marca: "We had some options. The first was not Suarez. He knows it. In winter we considered the signing of Aguero. That did not work out.

"In this situation, there was no doubt: Luis Suarez was our only goal."

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport...ns-wanted-to-sign-sergio-aguero-a6818941.html
 

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Henry didn't start off as a striker...Henry's best goal scoring season trumps anything Aguero has done in his career. Not only that, Henry has the record for most assists in a season. Aguero is not on his level. Hell Suarez before he left for Barca performed at a higher level than Aguero. There is a reason no top side even made a play for him.
Surely you’re on a WUM? :lol: It’s well documented both Barca and Madrid have wanted Aguero for years but the deal impossible to do due to his loyalty to City and the club not wishing to sell at any price.

The injuries have dimmed the sparkle and burst in Aguero to make him much more of a world class poacher as opposed to the all round beast he was at Atletico and for the first 2 seasons at City, but he’s been one of the best strikers in the world for almost a decade now, his consistency is to be commended.

He comes back from injuries every season and finds his rhythm inside 1 game, that’s how good a player he is. Suarez 1 season at Liverpool was better than Aguero on a singular season, I’ll grant you, but ask their board who they’d rather have signed the summer they got Suarez.

Edit: just saw the above post with the quotes regarding Barca.
 

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His style is closer to Shearer I think, very good shooting, and a lot of nice positioning. Henry for all his great skills was more a left winger converted forward with the will to go and score with the interior of the foot mainly. Aguero is undoubtedly a great player. Is he one of the best? I don't know, there is something about the lad I don't like but if we thought Tevez was great in the EPL for United then Aguero is definitely up there with the best for City.
 

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Henry is the best I've seen in the PL.

Aguero is in the next bracket which consistently of plenty of players. Terrific footballer though, it has to be said.
 

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I think aguero is more fowler than shearer, whose candle burned longer.

Talent to be the best one around but for various reasons, injuries topping the list, never ends up putting it all together to really be the player he can be and shows himself to be on occasion.

Better player than fowler at the end of the day obviously, but by way of analogy.
Hard to agree, he's much more technically gifted than Fowler, who had a very short career at the end. He's closer to Shearer because they both are excellent in finding the net + they have his mental strength to always try, they are both very tenacious. I rate Shearer as one of the best English forwards of all time, someone you can trust with goals once you set him up against the keeper. For me, Aguero is a similar kind of players, you can trust him. Fowler, I would be less keen to trust if I was one of his team mates.
 

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Why do people on here think that Guardiola was thinking of replacing him when he first came to the club? What weaknesses to his game did he see?
 

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For those debating on Henry and Kun, I think Suarez is the most complete player akin to Henry. Had he played more seasons in England, Suarez should be up there with Henry.
 

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Hernry yes, Suarez no. Suarez time in England yielded a far worse minutes per goal ratio than Sergio's. Funny enough despite what you posted Sergio was Barca's first choice over Suarez but they were turned down flat.

Zubizarreta told Marca: "We had some options. The first was not Suarez. He knows it. In winter we considered the signing of Aguero. That did not work out.

"In this situation, there was no doubt: Luis Suarez was our only goal."

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport...ns-wanted-to-sign-sergio-aguero-a6818941.html
Suarez is superior though. His peak is of an all time great CF. I mean he actually outscored Messi and Ronaldo one season if I'm not mistaken. Aguero is a level below him and Herry, for me.
 

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Unfortunate Rooney didn't play as an out an out striker and I think that's why he may be down the pecking order compared to Kun. As a player I'd take peak Rooney.
 

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Henry is the best ever for me. Goals, assists, creativity and pure magic all in one player. Hated Arsenal so much because of how good he was with them.
Henry scored at least one world class goal against all the big teams in England.
 

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His issue has always been fitness, when he was at that level he couldn't complete a season so he was never rated as such. Nowadays he's slightly past his prime but at his absolute best and on form he was at that level. A striker that could make something out of nothing.
 

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Goals against the top six

Aguero 42
Kane 21
Rooney 20
Rvp 18

Thats a crazy record, most of them against united if am not wrong. He is definitely up there with the best.
 

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Goals against the top six

Aguero 42
Kane 21
Rooney 20
Rvp 18

Thats a crazy record, most of them against united if am not wrong. He is definitely up there with the best.

I had hoped United would buy him but he moved to City as Fergie said there was no value in the market back then. What a bargain he would have been, top quality striker. I'm sure we'd have a few more titles had we picked him up instead of City.
 

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Goals against the top six

Aguero 42
Kane 21
Rooney 20
Rvp 18

Thats a crazy record, most of them against united if am not wrong. He is definitely up there with the best.
Kinda meaningless stat without number of games though.
 

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Purely on his goalscoring statistics and his record against the "top" clubs, Aguero has to go down as an all-time PL great. 157 goals in 227 games is a ridiculous record. He also has 28 in 50 games in the Champions League for City, which is a decent record (some commenters have questioned his CL record) given City haven't been great in the competition.

It seems like most contributors on the thread see Henry and possibly Rooney as slightly more rounded players, rather than just classic centre forwards/goalscorers, so maybe they belong in a different category. But if you compare Aguero's goalscoring stats against any of the other classic centre forwards mentioned in this thread (Shearer, van Nistelrooy, Suarez, Fowler, Owen, Cole, Kane, etc.) then Aguero stands above them all. I can see people having a preference for any one of that list over Aguero (based on club affiliation, style of play, etc.), but surely there can be no argument about Aguero's quality and status in the top bracket of all-time PL centre forwards.

Reading this thread I think Aguero is under-rated by most, which also reflects how under-rated he's been in terms of awards (PoTY, team of the season, etc.). It's almost as if everyone just expects Aguero to bang the goals in, season after season. He's only earned one PL golden boot over the years (2014/15), but there have been quite a few other seasons, in particular 2013/14, 2015/16, and 2017/18, where his goalscoring record was ridiculous, but injuries robbed him of too many games. He'd probably have scored 30+ in a season multiple times if he'd stayed fit.

He should be up there in 3rd place in the top PL scorers of all time by the end of his current contract. If we can persuade him to extend again then he might catch Rooney too. One thing's for certain, we'll have an almighty struggle to replace him when he's gone!