Nail on the head. This is all that needs to be said about what kind of club suits Mou. He said it himself that Inter was the best achievement of his career because they won everything. But reading between the lines, it was also the unexpected nature of that triumph that endeared him to the club (the same as Chelsea the first time round). Even at Inter things might have gone sour in the third or fourth season if the club had begun expecting to win.
What next for Mourinho?
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
Good. More journalists need to stop sugarcoating his time here.
The irony of that tweet is that what he's saying doesn't happen in reality and is more FIFA like.
Finishing second 19 points behind 1st , is far worse than finishing 4th 7 or 8 points behind 1st.
Pretty much this. He's a chequebook manager, but you have to be when everybody else you're competing against is too, and i disagree with his insinuation that we didn't back him. We are not City, we can't buy anyone and everyone, that's just a fact of life, but unlike Klopp he didn't really get the best of anyone he bought. Klopp has had a few flops but by and large his purchases are performing. Jose spent over 400m. It's perfectly understandable the board were getting reluctant to give him more when we weren't seeing enough from what he'd already been given.
What if we gave him another 400m and he came back with a 29 year old Perisic, 29 year old Alderweireld and god knows what other near 30 year olds? Then we might be in real trouble.
I like that hes kept his mouth relatively shut so far, but he needs to accept he's not blameless in the whole thing.
Mourinho.
How some people keep bringing last years 2nd place finish, in a trophy less season no less with a Rof16 CL exit to a weaker team, as some sort of achievement shows how far expectations have been lowered by some.
They sound like Spurs fans celebrating the fact that they put pressure on the eventual title winners. Not sure how anyone could've watched the dour brand of football we played for most of that season and consider it some sort of success
yes finishing second looks good on his record considering the LvG mess left behind.. but doesn't really tell the whole story of that season considering we sat 19 points behind first..
But to say he done the best with his squad that season is massively flattering to him.. The squad he had should have beaten Bristol in the league cup... & should have absolutely beat Seville in the Uefa cup. So I don't agree he done his best with what he had. That Seville exit was down to his pathetic cowardly tactics in that game. That's not how a manager getting the best from his team does things.
But to say he done the best with his squad that season is massively flattering to him.. The squad he had should have beaten Bristol in the league cup... & should have absolutely beat Seville in the Uefa cup. So I don't agree he done his best with what he had. That Seville exit was down to his pathetic cowardly tactics in that game. That's not how a manager getting the best from his team does things.
The finishing 2nd thing is a bit of a false narrative, we were miles behind, league was effectively over in Jan. in 2 of his 3 seasons we would have finished out of the top 4. The one season he got into the CL was due to winning europa league. He'll spin it to make himself look good
He is basically saying "I had a shit squad and club setup compared with City and it's my merit for finishing 2nd". It is actually a dig at the club.
But from the outside looking in, he was backed massively. It was only in his last season, where everyone lost faith that he supposedly wasn't (although we signed three players for ~£75m). Also keep in mind that we don't know what happened in the summer - we may well have had agents telling Woodward they didn't want to play for Mou, such was the negativity around the culture he was creating and the 'brand' of football we were playing - rather than us not trying to back a manager. That part is all hypothetical but he was still supported to the tune of around £400m over three seasons. He should then be viewed as being on a level playing field with Pep & Klopp and compared against them and their relative successes. Much of this comparison will rest on if Liverpool can win the PL, in which case (if they do) his time here will be the worst of the three by some margin.
For me, it's a simple truth that his transfer activity was diabolical and hinted at a manager who didn't really know how he wanted his team to play. None of his 11 signings did well except Ibra, one free transfer out of £400m spent. He was backed heavily but simply came up short.
On reflection, the sad thing is Jose came here and despite the way in which he conducted himself and how things ended, he delivered a couple of minor trophies, which means we would probably have remembered him in a decent light after he left. Instead he's on tv, blaming everyone but himself and waxing lyrical about our rivals and the support they give their manager. He will probably go down as one of the most successful but universally disliked figures in PL history, leaving no legacy behind him and, over time, will simply become synonymous with ultra defensive, anti football and 'parking the bus'.
If he had any half decent opportunities he wouldn't be on TV selling himself.
I'd have said our 2nd place finish would've been more impressive if we'd been a bit closer to City - ultimately they got 100 points and beating them to the title would've been incredibly difficult. But our 81 points tally wasn't anything to shout home about in the end - most years that'd still have you a good bit off the title. Some were making it out as if City's runaway points total was why we lost out but in the end that wasn't the case. We were off the pace anyway.
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Previous to last season, we finished 4th-7th (since SAF left). So yes, expectations are now lower and 2nd place is a good achievement.
What I wanted was for Jose to improve further, this season and take us to the title. I was positive that this was going to happen. But once his funding was cut in the Summer, he basically gave up, shrugged his shoulders and everything turned to crap.
Be patient. Wait 6 months and things should become clearer.
After leaving CFC, he was out of a job for 6 months or so.
Yeah, how many big clubs are hiring mid-season?
Overall I'd say it was a shite season, don't care what anyone says. City winning the league at a canter, and us getting embarrassingly knocked out of the CL by an average Sevilla team isn't an achievement for a club of our stature. It's a massive failure, especially since we made zero progress on it.
I don't think he was whoring himself out on tv then, possibly because he already knew be had the United job in the bag by our catastrophic December.
He did?
Who?
He's been slagging off our club on TV non-stop. How is this equivalent to keeping his mouth shut?
He's basically said "United is a shit club but I did a brilliant job and they didn't deserve me because they wouldn't sell Pogba or Martial", more or less. But of course, the club can't sue him for breach of NDA because he would say he never named names. Pretty cute.
LvG chatted a lot of shite as well but atleast he waited till the period of NDA had elapsed. Jose becoming so aggressive immediately in protecting his own rep shows his insecurity and his fear that Real (the only big club likely to hire him) may have second thoughts.
Mourinho bought Zlatan it didn't work he binned him for a 75M Lukaku, Bought Miki, it didnt work binned him for Alexis
Who was the LB Pep bought to replace Mendy?
Why do you believe no other manager would have done better then this?
Please look at the opponents they was facing where they won these two mickey mouse trophies.
UEFA Cup: Rostov,Anderlecht,Celta Vigo, Ajax
Leauge Cup: Man city, West Ham United,Southanton,Hull City.
Only Man City is top team, and they sent half of their reserve team.
United squad value may be more expensive than these teams combined except City
With this squad, no other manager would have won it??
Wonder where are the guys who kept going on about his "class" for not talking against the club.
He was a great coach who won loads of trophies but if one thing he lacked always, it's class.
Zlatan obviously got injured and wasn't ready for the new season.
Miki yeah, binned him.
Didn't Mendy get injured and Pep came out and said they need a new left back? They got Laporte in the January window, no?
Mendy got injured, Delph and that other youngster played as LB.
Pep also wanted replacement or someone who can compete with Fernandinho for 2 years and missed out several players. Not all managers get every player they want, they just get on with it. On the other hand Jose just moans about it.
Laporte is not a left back
Even if the squads are weaker there is no quarantee to win the games, because it is a cup competition. Other big teams have failed as well to win Europa league. Look at the latest world cup big big teams have failed to beat the smaller ones, because the small team players will play the games of their life to achieve success, same with europa league. Nobody would have thought that after LVG left the following manager, next season would win 2 trophies and get CLQ(not via league but luckly via europa). It was a good achievement to lift the club tad higher. Then the second season came in and he got the best finish in the league post fergie wich was not 3th but 2th. Almost won a trophie again as well(Fa cup). People say that it was to far away from city, but 2th is 2th at least better then spurs, arsenal, chelsea, pool. Also players might have been demoralized seeing that there is no way to catch city at all. The only downside of his first two years is not beating Sevilla, but he would have lost in the quarters anyway to a much better squad. He managed to make United strong again at home, unbeateble, great european defence record, despite having average players in defence.
What could he have dome more with our average defence, shambless fullbacks, sanchez not being messi'like, lukaku mediocre as well, no proper right winger, etc. To many problems in the squad and no investment. What ole done is nothing sort of a miracle, by winning 7/7. Anyway let's see when Ole or other managers will finish second and win trophies, even micky mouse ones.
Last season he did the best he could except for the negative approach against Seville.But this season, from the beginning , he has been whining about not being supported in the transfer market and instead of doing the job with what he has(look at Poch), he starts his drama right after the Spurs defeat... picking up the United flag and applauding the fans as if to prove a point or something
He spent more money than Klopp. Just that Klopp spent his money wisely, while Mourinho didn't.
What next for Mourinho?
Simple, he has taken a bit of a fall, will get up, dust himself off and smile a bit, someone will give him a pat on the back and he will carry on as before as if nothing happened.
Simple, he has taken a bit of a fall, will get up, dust himself off and smile a bit, someone will give him a pat on the back and he will carry on as before as if nothing happened.
In retrospect, Jorge Mendes must have seen the axe coming when he released that bizarre statemest without informing his client.
Back to Chelsea? 
He’s become an absolute parody.
That cracked me up
Dearie me
You reckon that video has been posted in the Utd players whatsapp group yet?
You reckon that video has been posted in the Utd players whatsapp group yet?