Maurizio Sarri's Sack Watch | And Now Our Watch Has Ended

Makelele

New Member
Newbie
Joined
Apr 30, 2014
Messages
307
Why had Kante played the entire game as a right wing/second striker hybrid, exposing Chelsea's underbelly to the Man City attack? You allow your defenders to be constantly put under high-pressure, shit situations and they'll make mistakes.
Valid point. I don’t believe Sarri is the main problem but playing high press with Barkley? Such a gamble.
 

haram

New Member
Joined
May 28, 2017
Messages
12,921
You will never stop banging this “players let the manager down” drum will you :lol:

They won their last game 5-0. Did they let the manager “take the bullets” in that game as well? :lol:

It’s obvious that the manager sent them out with the wrong tactical plan. They’ve been stupidly open from the first second, and that’s on the way the manager sets the team up.
Wow, they beat Huddersfield. The players are making individual errors.
 

SquishyMcSquish

New Member
Joined
Jul 4, 2018
Messages
8,198
Supports
Tottenham
The football was unbelievably atrocious.

The PL was particularly weak at that point too and he still was nowhere near a title challenge.
Yeah, the football was dull but I don't remember you being awful during that period, had some big wins for example.

He clearly needed to go and didn't really fit at United, but I don't think he was terrible with hindsight.

Anyway, not the LVG thread, I just found it weird .. I guess it does hurt when you're having to watch awful football every week as a fan and I get that.
 

JohnnyKills

Full Member
Joined
Jan 8, 2016
Messages
7,098
He'll be gone tonight.

Chelsea's slide is showing us why we should wait before appointing OGS. They were flying after 10 games, much like we are now, and Sarri was being hailed as a genius. Honeymoon periods are dangerous.
 

Cloud7

Full Member
Joined
Jan 11, 2016
Messages
12,832
Wow, they beat Huddersfield. The players are making individual errors.
The kind of pressure they’ve been under since the first minute of the game leads to individual errors happening.
 

Djemba-Djemba

Full Member
Joined
Dec 19, 2007
Messages
21,388
Location
Manchester
Yeah, the football was dull but I don't remember you being awful during that period, had some big wins for example.

He clearly needed to go and didn't really fit at United, but I don't think he was terrible with hindsight.
Trust me, he was shocking. The most boring football I've ever seen us play.

He wasn't a complete knobhead like Mourinho though, so there's at least that.
 

adexkola

Doesn't understand sportswashing.
Joined
Mar 17, 2008
Messages
48,414
Location
The CL is a glorified FA Cup set to music
Supports
orderly disembarking on planes
Individual moments of stupidity, but they’ve been leaking chances left right and center that put the team under that sort of pressure since the match started. That isn’t due to individual moments of stupidity.
That's due to City just being real good at generating chances. Put Kante in midfield and City are still ripping you apart. And on top of that, you can't generate chances of your own because Kante can't do that.

Need I say again that City beat Chelsea home and away last season??
 
Joined
Jul 13, 2002
Messages
52,709
Location
Founder of IhateMakeleles.org and Gourcufffanboysa
This is what people said about Pep Guardiola last season. Chelsea are having to change their whole identity. They have been a counter attacking team since the Roman Abramovic took over. His Napoli side played incredible football. It took Pep a season and a half to coach his players.

Chelsea defend by pressing and compactness. The spacing is an issue.
I disagree. With Pep you could see it was the personnel that was ill equipped. Not the method. With Sarri. The defensive openess every first half is shocking. Especially in midfield. Those who think its a matter of just switching round Kante and Jorginho are plain naive. The team as a whole isn't compact without the ball and position themselves so poorly. Yet since Chelsea's first defeat of the season it hasnt changed. Its like they are trying to defend by hogging possesion. Neglecting what should be done when the ball is lost.

I also ddont get why the center back always clear balls back into danger areas
 

SquishyMcSquish

New Member
Joined
Jul 4, 2018
Messages
8,198
Supports
Tottenham
Trust me, he was shocking. The most boring football I've ever seen us play.

He wasn't a complete knobhead like Mourinho though, so there's at least that.
Fair enough, you'd know better than me!

I just thought perhaps he'd be remembered a little more fondly since he left on a high with the FA cup win.
 

amolbhatia50k

Sneaky bum time - Vaccination status: dozed off
Joined
Nov 8, 2002
Messages
95,677
Location
india
What do Chelsea fans make of this?

I mean, Chelsea are playing some positive attack minded stuff and looking to play in the other teams half. But some of the application defensively is woeful.
 

steakpie

New Member
Newbie
Joined
Oct 13, 2018
Messages
429
I think he lost the dressing room when he criticised his players. But some of his tactics and selections have also been poor.
 

Foxtrot

New Member
Newbie
Joined
May 19, 2018
Messages
699
Supports
Die Mannschaft
Chelsea will be on to Mourinho to come back again soon enough :lol:...either that or Mourinho will go round telling people they begged him to come back and he turned them down when they never went near him :nono:
Chelsea fans on The Shed End actually asking for Mourinho to come back now, you can't make this up.

Mini honeymoon as in winning the league multiple times and other trophies?

I'll have that thank you very much.

Sarri is making it very obvious why he's not won a single trophy in his career. Naive as hell, stubborn, not a good tactician and sucks at motivating his players.

Time to end this project.

As a matter of fact i'd take Jose back in a heartbeat. He'd shape us up.
 

adexkola

Doesn't understand sportswashing.
Joined
Mar 17, 2008
Messages
48,414
Location
The CL is a glorified FA Cup set to music
Supports
orderly disembarking on planes
Eh, earlier Van Gaal was better than the Van Gaal we had.

I don't hate possession based strategies per say, it's good to see your team 'in control', and there's nothing quite like a perfectly organised and balanced possession based team in full flow.

A lot of criticisms come from the worst of possession based football. A lot of time under Van Gaal we passed sideways and backwards indefinitely for entire matches, having the ball for the sake of the ball while offering nothing ourselves. It was deathly boring and not effective at all especially considering the players at our disposal.

Meanwhile you get teams like Pep's Barce.

It's one of those 'all or nothing' things. Possession based football is either beautiful or dull as dish water..
You don't see the same disdain for counter-attacking football based on it's worst manifestations (Mourinho this season, Conte last season)
 

totaalvoetbal

Full Member
Joined
Apr 9, 2015
Messages
865
Location
Netherlands
Supports
Ajax
With Pep you could see ut was the personnel that was ill equipped. Not the method. With Sarri. The defensive openess every first half is shocking. Especially in midfield. Those who think its a matter of just switchong round Kante and Jorginho are plain naive. The team as a whole isn't compact without the ball and position themselves so poorly. Yet since Chelsea's first defeat of the season. It hasnt changed. Its like they are trying to defend by hogging possesion
Again that's what people said about Pep. The match at Leicester where they lost 4-0 at around the same stage of that seasomoney from what I can remember. The Monaco games where they were countered easily.

It's a personnel issue for Sarri as well. I just don't think he has intelligent players. Jorghino is the only midfielder that is positioned correctly consistently.
 

Bola

New Member
Joined
Aug 19, 2018
Messages
1,205
Wonder how Paul 'must win game' Merson is feeling right now?
 

#07

makes new threads with tweets in the OP
Joined
Oct 25, 2010
Messages
23,307
Just keep him in place until the Cup tie please...
 

Hazard Warning

New Member
Newbie
Joined
Aug 24, 2018
Messages
168
Supports
Chelsea
What do Chelsea fans make of this?

I mean, Chelsea are playing some positive attack minded stuff and looking to play in the other teams half. But some of the application defensively is woeful.
Such a surreal first half where we were actually quite good but 4 individual errors meant we were 4-0 down at HT (Kepa x2, Barkley & Alonso) 2nd half we have given up I guess.

I fear for Sarri as he may get the sack after this game but look how long Klopp took to make Liverpool decent. He had them midtable ffs.
 

We need an rvn

Full Member
Joined
Aug 13, 2015
Messages
3,871
Location
Down south...somewhere
The guy did brilliant at his previous club and needs a few seasons to get his system working at Chelsea. If they sack him then either some heads at Chelsea board level need to roll too if I was Roman as they've wasted the owners millions yet again on the wrong guy and not backed him, or the players need to go and he's given time to build his team and put his system into the team.

Although saying all this, when you have Hazard and a damn good squad as a base then most likely it's the coach who will go and the board suck up to Roman yet again saying the guy didn't do his job.
 

amolbhatia50k

Sneaky bum time - Vaccination status: dozed off
Joined
Nov 8, 2002
Messages
95,677
Location
india
Such a surreal first half where we were actually quite good but 4 individual errors meant we were 4-0 down at HT (Kepa x2, Barkley & Alonso) 2nd half we have given up I guess.

I fear for Sarri as he may get the sack after this game but look how long Klopp took to make Liverpool decent. He had them midtable ffs.
I'd argue Sarri had a much better starting point than Klopp though.

It's strange. The slickless of your football is impressive and I imagine the direction you want to go in. But he's made the players his enemy and the defending at times is a joke.
 

Kapardin

New Member
Joined
Jul 6, 2017
Messages
9,917
Location
Chennai, India
Such a surreal first half where we were actually quite good but 4 individual errors meant we were 4-0 down at HT (Kepa x2, Barkley & Alonso) 2nd half we have given up I guess.

I fear for Sarri as he may get the sack after this game but look how long Klopp took to make Liverpool decent. He had them midtable ffs.
Klopp inherited a terrible squad apart from Coutinho and Firmino (who was completely frozen out by Rodgers). Sarri inherited a recent title and FA cup winning squad. The difference is quite vast.
 

Canagel

Full Member
Joined
May 26, 2016
Messages
13,888
Sarriball isn't the problem. The problem is the players cannot play SarriBall. The players must be extremely intelligent and everyone must be on the same wavelenth. Anyone not pulling their weight will be exploited ruthlessly. I watched Napoli play teams like Juventus off the park but they were extremely solid at the back and had solid backbone. There's no backbone at Chelsea. He needs to dispose of trash like Luiz, Alonso, Barkley and others.
 

Dion

Full Member
Joined
Mar 18, 2010
Messages
4,338
I disagree. With Pep you could see it was the personnel that was ill equipped. Not the method. With Sarri. The defensive openess every first half is shocking. Especially in midfield. Those who think its a matter of just switching round Kante and Jorginho are plain naive. The team as a whole isn't compact without the ball and position themselves so poorly. Yet since Chelsea's first defeat of the season it hasnt changed. Its like they are trying to defend by hogging possesion. Neglecting what should be done when the ball is lost.

I also ddont get why the center back always clear balls back into danger areas
Jumping on yours and @totaalvoetbal debate. Pep had problems with the weak links in his squad, Sarri (like Mourinho this season) has problems fitting his best players into his. When you have amazing players in their peak who can't get a place in your system then you have a massive issue.
 

Dion

Full Member
Joined
Mar 18, 2010
Messages
4,338
Sarriball isn't the problem. The problem is the players cannot play SarriBall. The players must be extremely intelligent and everyone must be on the same wavelenth. Anyone not pulling their weight will be exploited ruthlessly. I watched Napoli play teams like Juventus off the park but they were extremely solid at the back and had solid backbone. There's no backbone at Chelsea. He needs to dispose of trash like Luiz, Alonso, Barkley and others.
Maybe he should try playing one of the best defensive players in the world in his best position then, that might give them more of a backbone.
 

Kapardin

New Member
Joined
Jul 6, 2017
Messages
9,917
Location
Chennai, India
Chelsea fans on The Shed End actually asking for Mourinho to come back now, you can't make this up.
I'd rather have Sarri than the current version of Mourinho if I was in their place. And no, I don't think Mourinho would even win them trophies in the short term anymore.
 

totaalvoetbal

Full Member
Joined
Apr 9, 2015
Messages
865
Location
Netherlands
Supports
Ajax
Maybe he should try playing one of the best defensive players in the world in his best position then, that might give them more of a backbone.
Kante never played a single pivote for Chelsea, Leicester or France. Playing Kante there would make no difference and Jorghino is not a #8.

Again, Busquets looked worse when the space between the lines was bigger. The whole point of defending from he front is to be compact and minimise gaps. Chelsea don't even press properly. Jorginho was fine I'm Napoli.
 

SungSam7

Full Member
Joined
Nov 29, 2016
Messages
527
Location
Waterford
Sarriball isn't the problem. The problem is the players cannot play SarriBall. The players must be extremely intelligent and everyone must be on the same wavelenth. Anyone not pulling their weight will be exploited ruthlessly. I watched Napoli play teams like Juventus off the park but they were extremely solid at the back and had solid backbone. There's no backbone at Chelsea. He needs to dispose of trash like Luiz, Alonso, Barkley and others.
I don't think Abromovich has any patience left for Chelsea to be honest. How much more can he do to give them what is needed! Discarding a dressing room over a manager is costly and doesn't he want to sell up or something last time I heard?
If you ask me I think he needs to do a clear out, but that takes time and confidence and if it goes wrong again then it's more time and money wasted!