Stuff in football that really annoys you?

RedPed

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Some of the terms and cliches used in football really grind my gears. Don't know why but they just do.

"touch tight"
"low centre of gravity" (wtf!)
"in the hole"
people referring to Ronaldo as CR7 when posting in here

I could go on...

Don't get me started on Americans commentating on a football game as if it was American football or a basketball game.

.....oh and Redcafe matchday threads!
 

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Also: Match threads on here in the hour leading up to the game being infested with people telling everyone how many points they got in the prediction league. Who gives a feck?
I hate that. Dozens of posts just saying "10/11", "8/11", "9/11" etc etc, feck off noone cares.
 

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I can’t even support England.

Anyhoo, jostling at corners annoys me, particularly the way Mike does it. By the letter of the law he’d be giving away about 5 penalties a game.
Then Ramos is at 15....)
 

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People who care more about their fantasy team than rivals results.
This completely. When a Utd fan is disapppointed Shaqiri didn't come on against Everton cause of some fantasy shit they can feck off.

Pep Guardiola rotation policy fecking up my fantasy league team.

The losing team misplacing a pass and commentator saying "well that sums up their night".
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Try hard foreign fans of clubs who always go on about how much they hate their chosen club’s local rivals. Why would you care?

Grown men who are massively emotionally invested in their teams to the extent that they actually get depressed when they’re not doing well. Pretty embarrassing really.


The idea that clubs who can’t fill their stadium have awful fans. They just don’t have many of them.

Peter Drury.
Nothing wrong with any of that. Football is a great escapism from the real world, let the people enjoy it and be passionate about it
 

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Goal music.

Cardboard clappers.

Teams having flags at the side of the pitch that get waved about when they score.

When a referee clearly doesn't see a foul, but turns around to see a player flat on his arse and gives him a free kick.

Martin Keown.
 

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Bugs me when people seem to think you can’t support a team if you're not from the city or can’t/don’t get to many games. “F*** off and a support your local team!”. I mean, it’s not as if your local team is full of local lads. Your likely supporting players from the countries the so called arm chair fans are from. Chances are if everyone supported their local teams, the team you support would be no where near as good.
Why is it that it’s always successful sides (United, Liverpool etc) that international fans support though? I doubt there’s a huge Irish following for Fulham.

I hate how people use stats rather than actually watching the game to form opinions on players.
 

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I hate how defenders are allowed to shield the ball excessively, basically pushing the chasing attacker away with their backs and arms, when it's on its way out to a goal kick.
Related: A player shielding the ball is pretty much guaranteed to get a freekick if he throws himself to the ground. Vidic was good at that.
 

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Hearing "I've seen them given" to every shout for a penalty.

Hearing the daft commentator say "well if it's not a dive it must be a yellow", as though the scenario of a player losing his own feet is not a plausible outcome in a fast paced game.
 

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Boring post match interviews.

I heard Hudson-Odoi (who is 18) talking about "taking each game as it comes" recently. Made me sad.

We've got 95% James Milners and not enough Zlatans.
 

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Boring post match interviews.

I heard Hudson-Odoi (who is 18) talking about "taking each game as it comes" recently. Made me sad.

We've got 95% James Milners and not enough Zlatans.
Agreed! Players being media trained at youth level ruined it!

There’s barely any interesting characters or personalities in this league.
 

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Boring post match interviews.

I heard Hudson-Odoi (who is 18) talking about "taking each game as it comes" recently. Made me sad.

We've got 95% James Milners and not enough Zlatans.
They all talk the exact same way. They are obviously all media trained from the same book.
It's a shame because some of them are interesting characters, I'm sure, and it would be nice to hear their genuine thoughts on a game
 

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They all talk the exact same way. They are obviously all media trained from the same book.
It's a shame because some of them are interesting characters, I'm sure, and it would be nice to hear their genuine thoughts on a game
There's usually no point in them, time to turn the channel over when they come on.
 

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referees not being held accountable for their decisions is another one. players and managers are punished for their mistakes. why not the refs?

they should be made to speak infront of media and explain their decision.
 

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Why is it that it’s always successful sides (United, Liverpool etc) that international fans support though? I doubt there’s a huge Irish following for Fulham.

I hate how people use stats rather than actually watching the game to form opinions on players.
Those sides are the sides shown mostly on TV, they played nice football and have skillful players that are entertaining to watch. It’s simple.

Same reason people watch movies with certain actors in them, or listen to music by certain bands. They’ve seen them on TV, or wherever, liked them and likely will watch/listen to future projects they appear in.

Do people only watch movies from directors from their local cities?, listen to only local bands?, doubtful. Why does it apply to football but not other forms of entertainment?
 

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I absolutely hate it when an attack is running and some brillant TV director goes into a close up shot of the player currently on the ball. Yes, looks cool and spectacular but I can't see anything. Show me the damn pitch, I want to see where and when he could pass the ball, if he could start a dribble, take a shot or whatever.
 

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Why is it that it’s always successful sides (United, Liverpool etc) that international fans support though? I doubt there’s a huge Irish following for Fulham.
Why exactly would some Norwegian guy choose to support Crystal Palace, or whatever? For the overwhelming majority of humans worldwide, the local team is raw garbage that they have no reason to support except for the fact that they happen to have been born in the area. When your local club hasn't competed for a title for twenty years and nobody outside the town could name a single player in its squad, it's pretty natural for anyone with an interest in football to support one of the big clubs. That'll typically be the one that was succesful when the fan was a kid. This is why there are so many Liverpool fans aged 40-50, and so many United fans in their late 20s and 30s.

Alternately, they end up supporting whichever club for which the best player from their country plays, which also tends to be one of the big clubs. I know a lot of Swedes who happened to become fans of the club Zlatan was playing for when they first fell in love with football.
 

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Born in Manchester, went every other weekend in the 80s with my dad and brothers.

I moved to the US with work commitments. Still fly out to see Utd but only once or twice a season.
Born next to one of the best clubs in the world: "How can you support more than one team!?"

Well, how about you think for a minute how you can. I've supported United since I was 5 years old. Started playing football with my local club at 6. Stopped playing at 18 but go to matches (they're a yoyo team in Iceland). How can I not support two clubs?

Do you follow any other sports than football? Do you like any other club or individiual?
 

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Not beating the first man on a corner makes me rage every time.
Ashley Young's throwin's that take an age.
Liverpool.
 

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I’ll start with:

People that support more than one club. It really irks me.

I just don’t understand how you can share a passion for more than one team, I simply don’t care for anyone apart from my beloved United.

I’m not a top red or super fan. I just don’t think it’s possible to love more than one club.
Most people who support more than one bigger club seem to be from somewhere else. Maybe the tie isn't quite as strong?

I get supporting your main club passionately, plus getting behind a smaller local club, or becoming interested in one if you move somewhere, but I couldn't fathom being behind two equally. The passion would never be the same anyway. It just wouldn't be unless you've grown up with it, and I think it's even stronger if you're from nearby because you grow up surrounded by it and the rivalries that come with it.
 

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People who think referee's should explain there decisions as if it will somehow satisfy people when if they did there answers would be even blander than ones done by players.

And also players and managers who blame one throw not going there way leading to a goal as the reason they get relegated or don't win the title or whatever ignoring everything else that happens over a game and season.

Also Jurgen Klopp and Greame Souness
 

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I hate when offside is given when a player has simply lost his marker through his movement - he’s offside because the defender couldn’t keep up and lost him.

I hate the offside rule full stop - esp how it’s enforced. They said Lukaku’s goal at the weekend would have been ruled off next season as “his knee was offside”...

As if our refs and linemen are that fecking accurate.
 

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referees not being held accountable for their decisions is another one. players and managers are punished for their mistakes. why not the refs?

they should be made to speak infront of media and explain their decision.
I agree. They should also introduce system where accurate refs are rewarded with something like Ref of the Year awards and any other motivating stuff to help raise the level. This could honestly help understand this job from supporter perspective and in the end add whole another dimension to football.
 

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I think there's a whole thing about happening to be born near a good football club, staying there, growing up a season ticket holder, watching quality football, then judging other people for supporting your club.

To give my United story: I grew up seeing my dad, who was born in Salford, every other week. He'd moved away from Manchester as a teenager but was obviously a United fan by then. Early in his career he moved further away still, met my mum, had children, got divorced and moved further away again. Obviously he didn't change his club allegiance upon any of these geographical moves. My mum wasn't going to take me to local football so sometimes, when something could be worked out that involved him still getting to see my sister and he could get tickets, he'd take me to United. Despite living hundreds of miles away, my first football match was United vs Wednesday in 1993. How could I ever turn back from that, even if I wanted to?

So we're in this place where I shouldn't support United because I grew up in the south and rarely got to go, so according to the Top Red Code should my dad have ditched United in favour of whatever team was closest to me if he wanted to take his son to football? Or should it have been the closest club to him, because he no longer lived anywhere near either Manchester or me? I was under the impression that you don't change clubs, whatever the circumstances? Should I have shunned my dad's offers to drive me to Manchester again and supported my local non-league team, despite not being able to go to any games because I was a child with nobody to take me?

As I grew up and started to go to games without my dad, I'd have to book days off work and expensive hotels and trains just to go to matches that weren't in high demand because those were the ones I could get tickets for. Was I not a true supporter?

I don't think that's even anywhere near a complicated life by today's standards. People move around. People watch the Premier League from all over the world. People have different commitments. There is no arbiter of who is and isn't a true fan of any club.

That's longer than I intended it to be and tbh a long justification of something I have no need to justify, but hopefully makes a point about modern lives and entitlement.
 

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Some of the terms and cliches used in football really grind my gears. Don't know why but they just do.

"touch tight"
"low centre of gravity" (wtf!)
"in the hole"
people referring to Ronaldo as CR7 when posting in here

I could go on...

Don't get me started on Americans commentating on a football game as if it was American football or a basketball game.

.....oh and Redcafe matchday threads!
Andy Townsend’s use of “in and around” is always amusing.
 

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You could even argue the lad is a even bigger fan. Getting up at 4am ish for every match? fecking hell. Good on them!
Dude, I'd love it if we actually played here at 4am. I'd be at Old Trafford every game!
 

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Hatred (as in: extreme rivalry) for whatever club for whatever historical reason way beyond your own lifespan or frame of reference. What reason would a 17 year old Man Utd supporter have to loathe Liverpool? They’ven’t been real competition within their own life time. I just don’t get it. It seems that people have an easier time forgiving countries that bombed the shit out if them in whatever fecking war than have a rational outlook on whatever team did your team wrong fecking 50 years ago.
I agree here. When I say I hate Man Utd, I don't mean it in a I WANT THEM DEAD kind of hatred! I hate in a they are fierce competition and are worthy opponent who we absolutely must beat. No other team do I have this respect for, only United. To see Mourinho in charge of United was bad for not just United, but for football in general. I hate United winning anything, but as a Liverpool supporter I need them to be up there, its like Batman and the Joker, Liverpool and United need each other!

I don't like Chelsea, everything about them is horrible, however, like United, I know some good lads and lasses who support that club and so the hatred becomes more rivalry than death threats!

The debates on here show to me the mentality of supporters. Many say "I would rather my team (add absurd nightmare here) than Liverpool win the league" and yet I could never think that. I remember Liverpool playing Blackburn years ago, Blackburn of course competing with United for the league. A Blackburn win guaranteed the league. For me, sod that, I want us to win, always. So when we won, and Barnes scored I was over the moon! of course United drawing with West Ham was just gravy, but like the Solskjaer interview when asked about the title race, otherwise I couldn't care less, my team won!

Kids today are not getting how rivalry works, in sport hate is used to utterly support your team against a rival, the players use that support and hate to perform to the maximum they can and at the end of the game, regardless of the result, the hate stops. The rivalry continues of course until the next game and then the hate on match day erupts once again. If you live supporting a team with a pure hatred that diverges from supporting your club, then put simply, you will never enjoy supporting your club.
 

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Hatred (as in: extreme rivalry) for whatever club for whatever historical reason way beyond your own lifespan or frame of reference. What reason would a 17 year old Man Utd supporter have to loathe Liverpool? They’ven’t been real competition within their own life time. I just don’t get it. It seems that people have an easier time forgiving countries that bombed the shit out if them in whatever fecking war than have a rational outlook on whatever team did your team wrong fecking 50 years ago.
This is what I was getting at earlier. It’s pretty weird.

Scousers and Mancs having a bit of banter with each other over a healthy rivalry is one thing but the hatred is weird.

Obviously ongoing political, ethnic and/or cultural rivalries are a different story. Even in terms of foreign fans of Barça or Celtic fans, it makes sense for them to dislike Madrid or Rangers if they’ve chosen their club for ideological reasons but that isn’t something typical of most football rivalries.

I also find it difficult to understand how United fans could genuinely be upset/offended by opposition fans mocking Munich. Unless you’re in your eighties or a direct decendent of somebody killed in the tragedy I just don’t see how you’re affected by it. Obviously the fans who do it are morons who should be punished but I find it hard to care.
 

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Liverpool really annoys me.

Other than that, poor refereeing and small teams pretending they never get big decisions at top 6 clubs when they blatantly do.
 

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Any fan of big-club from a city they never grew up in or lived in that criticizes and accuses other fans of not supporting the club or defending opposing teams. One of worst types of fans.
 

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English fans giving stupid nicknames to foreign players. For example...

Cristiano Ronaldo - “Ronny”
Roberto Firmino - “Bobby”
Laurent Blanc - “Larry White”
De Gea - “Dave”

You get where I’m going with this. I don’t know why it bothers me... it’s just all a bit cringe if I’m being honest.
 

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Inconsistent refereeing especially when it comes to yellow / red cards early in the game. A player can make a horrible tackle in the first five minutes of the game and the referee just lets it go.

Can still remember the shocking tackle by Nigel De Jong in the world cup final only getting a yellow.

Also commentators claiming that a referee ruined the spectacle by sending a player off.
 

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This is what I was getting at earlier. It’s pretty weird.

Scousers and Mancs having a bit of banter with each other over a healthy rivalry is one thing but the hatred is weird.

Obviously ongoing political, ethnic and/or cultural rivalries are a different story. Even in terms of foreign fans of Barça or Celtic fans, it makes sense for them to dislike Madrid or Rangers if they’ve chosen their club for ideological reasons but that isn’t something typical of most football rivalries.

I also find it difficult to understand how United fans could genuinely be upset/offended by opposition fans mocking Munich. Unless you’re in your eighties or a direct decendent of somebody killed in the tragedy I just don’t see how you’re affected by it. Obviously the fans who do it are morons who should be punished but I find it hard to care.
Munich tragedy is one of the key incidents which draws people towards United. The horrible tragedy, us reaching the FA cup finals immediately that season, Busby recovering and leading us to European glory. It's pretty much shaped the club and there is loads of footage from surviving players. It's a story you rarely see outside of movies. It's a bit sad if you follow Manchester United and don't feel moved by it.
 

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Not directly linked to football but social media surrounding football and banter accounts etc are totally the worst thing about the game now

And the 3pm football TV rights in the UK