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Martial baffles me. I can't put my finger on a single reason why his level should have dropped the way it has. Sure he was out for a bit but he was on one hell of a hot streak before that. You'd think after a couple of matches to get back into the groove he'd be right back ripping teams to shreds. Instead he looks all at sea. God knows what's on his mind, I just hope he sorts his head out soon cos at his top level he's an incredible player.
 

Carl

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Ridiculously inconstant even for a young player. Lazy and sulks too. Honestly wouldn't miss him if he was moved on, which is probably our only option given he has made it abundantly clear (by sulking and using social media) that being a squad option is not an option.
 

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His movement is absolutely atrocious too.
 

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Done well for the penalty, done very little otherwise. Workrate poor, that's fine if you are delivering but he's not from wide areas. Really need him to pick it up again.
He had about 4 yards on the defender. No idea why he didn't bury it himself. Lacking confidence perhaps?
 

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Makes me wanna tear my hair out. He's clearly a talented player and for him to lack intensity and drive at times is so insanely frustrating.
 

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We have ruined his career at United by removing his strikers ability & playing him as a makeshift winger.

Shame.
Sure, and he doesn't share any responsibility for he's poor play.

We can't play a certain formation just to suit Martial. He's not that good for us to sacrifice others strengths just to satisfy him. Mourinho not doing it and now Ole should tell you how they see him.
 

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Formation and instructions don't explain why he was consistently giving the ball away under no pressure, or standing around instead of making a run.

I like Martial, but he gets far too many excuses made for him.
 

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Done well for the penalty, done very little otherwise. Workrate poor, that's fine if you are delivering but he's not from wide areas. Really need him to pick it up again.
Did you think so? Thought he should have gotten a clear chance from it.. He lost the ball to their keeper but saved his ass by getting the pen. He was terrible today.
 

Murder on Zidane's Floor

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Martial baffles me. I can't put my finger on a single reason why his level should have dropped the way it has. Sure he was out for a bit but he was on one hell of a hot streak before that. You'd think after a couple of matches to get back into the groove he'd be right back ripping teams to shreds. Instead he looks all at sea. God knows what's on his mind, I just hope he sorts his head out soon cos at his top level he's an incredible player.
This has never happened.
 

Aloysius's Back 3

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Sure, and he doesn't share any responsibility for he's poor play.

We can't play a certain formation just to suit Martial. He's not that good for us to sacrifice others strengths just to satisfy him. Mourinho not doing it and now Ole should tell you how they see him.
That's exactly what we need to be doing though.

Until we get better players we need a formation that gets the best out of the only decent players we have.

We need a formation to get the best of Pogba, Rashford, Shaw, Fred possibly, Lindelof & Martial.

As I've said before - I couldn't give a toss if he went - but why is martial playing as a winger when Rashford is upfront and no RW on the other side?

Are we even good enough at heading the ball never mind our whole teams less than average ability to actually cross the ball properly.

Our attackers play too wide from each other & need to be packed centrally in my opinion - we don't have a single winger in the squad except Chong. Until that is sorted - everyone should be playing as strikers.
 

OldTrevil

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He wasnt great but he was still crucial in both goals, sign of a very good player
 

flappyjay

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Makes me wanna tear my hair out. He's clearly a talented player and for him to lack intensity and drive at times is so insanely frustrating.
If he had Rashfords drive he would be the star of the premier league
 

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He should playing through the middle, enough is enough, bring in two proper wingers in the summer.
 

Van Piorsing

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I don't think we have a luxury to complain as United simply doesn't have better options in the squad. Should we just put Lingard on the left and Mata on the right ?

When LvG was signing him he thought of him as a project. I still think he made a right decision as Martial helped a lot to get United through dull times of Falcao and Di Maria.
 

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If he had Rashfords drive he would be the star of the premier league
Funny you that, I was saying that to my mate during the game. He would be a world beater if he had Rashford's mentality. Ole has his work cut out for him.
 

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He should playing through the middle, enough is enough, bring in two proper wingers in the summer.
That would be absolutely great. Martial would be a normal candidate for a spot like in every solid team.

Bring back healthy rivalry on every position and let the best win the spot.
 

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I don't think we have a luxury to complain as United simply doesn't have better options in the squad. Should we just put Lingard on the left and Mata on the right ?

When LvG was signing him he thought of him as a project. I still think he made a right decision as Martial helped a lot to get United through dull times of Falcao and Di Maria.
This for me.

Apart from the horrible contract - Martial can atleast be a good inconsistent squad player for us if we had better players.

He can't even be dropped half the time because we got no one else who can even do a job there at the moment.
 

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He's obviously talented but in reality he's not good enough, consistent enough or driven enough to get us where we need to be. How long has he been here now? What has he actually done aside from a few good games here and there? We really need to start being ruthless and getting rid of people taking a wage and delivering nothing. It won't happen though. As long as woodward is in charge we'll keep persisting with average players and keep getting nowhere.
 

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Doesn't deserve to start against Barca after that performance. Infuriating player at times.
 

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I have no expectations for him going forward. He's disappointed me so much the past 2 seasons.

He's literally not improved since he came here.

Nowadays he can't even dribble past players either.

And his short passing game is really poor.
 

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He should playing through the middle, enough is enough, bring in two proper wingers in the summer.
That's my dream but I fear that it's going to stay a dream.
 

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Typical Martial game. He has been shit more times for us than he has been good.
I agree and sadly I think it’s this reason we need to seriously consider moving him on. His ceiling can be ridiculously high and he could go on to be a world beater. But for us he must average 5 or 6 out of ten every game. He has the odd game he’s really good but mostly he’s crap. It’s a shame I’d like him to succeed but he’s had his chances. There’s s few players in this boat sadly
 

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Should have let Jose sell him.

Remember the meltdowns at the Perisic trade deal. Im betting the former would actually turn up to the game.
 

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Should have let Jose sell him.

Remember the meltdowns at the Perisic trade deal. Im betting the former would actually turn up to the game.
Perisic is an above average player and he has more goals/assists than Martial in the last 3 seasons. He also provides a lot more in terms of spreading the pitch, crossing and winning the ball back.

I am slowly thinking that Martial isn't even a very good player anymore. When you are getting outperformed by Perisic can you say you are a very good player?
 

Denis79

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What talent? How can you say a player has talent when he lacks so much?
He probably lacks the most important thing, mentality. He's very comfortable with the ball, has an ok finishing technique, pretty good first touch. He has talent but I got a feeling that either he thinks he's better than he actually is or he simply doesn't have the mentality to progress as a footballer. Why his work-rate is so poor I have no idea.
 
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Form has really fallen off a cliff since his injury. Looks scared to take players on and looks like he doesn’t believe in his abilities.
 

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The guy is just coming back from niggling injuries and had his first 90 minutes in a while, people need to calm down. He contributed to both goals. Also he showed his mentality and toughness during our worst period with Jose, so all those questioning that side of his game are being disingenous. He's the last player we have to worry about.
 

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He had a bad game, clearly not properly match fit. Should still be starting against Barca.
 
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