With a DM/destroyer its possible to play Pogba-Bruno Fernandes. Same way Real Madrid use to play Kroos-Modric.We will have to play a diamond if we keep Pogba and sign this fellow.
Don't think he will work in a 433 with Pogba and I don't want Pogba playing deeper in a 2 either in a 4231
Not sure Pogba is disciplined enough. No idea on this new guy. Only seen bit of him but he does look decent.With a DM/destroyer its possible to play Pogba-Bruno Fernandes. Same way Real Madrid use to play Kroos-Modric.
Pogbas our biggest assist maker and I believe our top scorer. If he was playing aa disciplined role he couldn't do that. People's expectations are a little unreasonable. He could easily play like Eric dier but I don't see how that would improve us.Not sure Pogba is disciplined enough. No idea on this new guy. Only seen bit of him but he does look decent.
We do need a DM though.
If we sign this guy then our midfield would be screaming out for Declan Rice, who is one of the most natural DMs I've ever seen.We will have to play a diamond if we keep Pogba and sign this fellow.
Was going to comment the same thing regarding KDB, he'd be a great additionReminds of a player to the mould of KDB. I think he will complement Pogba more than hinder him because he will take off the pressure him. Opposition know that Pogba is our main playmaker and is not even a no.10 (which is not good).
I tend to agree with this but even then I don’t think he and Pogba would be that good playing in the manner you speak of to nullify their defensive frailties. Both seem to like space and to work in to space and if you played in a tight manner for me they’d be wasting their talents.You can only really fit a midfield or Bruno and Pogba together if you have either a really solid defence or play an extremely possession orientated style.
Just getting a good dm won’t help cover spaces left by 2 attacking midfield players. You have to either be comfortable letting your centre backs be isolated (which we definitely can’t do with our current defence) or push really high up and play a City style where they expect to have most of the possession and try to win the ball back with the high press.
Right now I wouldn’t feel confident at all that we can fit Bruno into the team and moreover I worry about the strategy of just signing the best players available with no plan on how to fit them
You can only really fit a midfield or Bruno and Pogba together if you have either a really solid defence or play an extremely possession orientated style.
Just getting a good dm won’t help cover spaces left by 2 attacking midfield players. You have to either be comfortable letting your centre backs be isolated (which we definitely can’t do with our current defence) or push really high up and play a City style where they expect to have most of the possession and try to win the ball back with the high press.
Right now I wouldn’t feel confident at all that we can fit Bruno into the team and moreover I worry about the strategy of just signing the best players available with no plan on how to fit them
But I think we do need someone in this position. Our squad lacks creative players and goal scorers from midfield. He is good at set pieces and takes penalties as well which is an added bonus. Right now, the whole creative burden rests on Pogba. Having two dangerous midfielders will make us more unpredictable and harder to defend against.He also looks like a number 10 more than a CM. Spending 70 million on a player that doesn't play in a position where we desperately need reinforcements doesn't seem like the best idea, considering the amount of money we'll have to spend anyway.
Yeah but playing both Pogba and Fernandes in a midfield 3 against the bigger teams is just asking for trouble. It just doesn't seem balanced. With Herrera likely leaving, we'll need a new B2B, someone who will add a bit of steel and energy into our midfield. I don't think neither Fred nor McTominay can be depended on throughout the whole season, as much promise at they may show.But I think we do need someone in this position. Our squad lacks creative players and goal scorers from midfield. He is good at set pieces and takes penalties as well which is an added bonus. Right now, the whole creative burden rests on Pogba. Having two dangerous midfielders will make us more unpredictable and harder to defend against.
We don't have to play them both against top teams. Maybe we can just get Rabiot on a free and rotate them depending on the match.Yeah but playing both Pogba and Fernandes in a midfield 3 against the bigger teams is just asking for trouble. It just doesn't seem balanced. With Herrera likely leaving, we'll need a new B2B, someone who will add a bit of steel and energy into our midfield. I don't think neither Fred nor McTominay can be depended on throughout the whole season, as much promise at they may show.
my thoughts exactly. He could have a KDB like role. He's comfortable in all areas of the pitch and his defensive work rate is good. He's also the right profile age -wise. We should be going for productive players around 23-24 rather than teenagers or 28-29 yr old that are nearing the end of their prime.Reminds of a player to the mould of KDB. I think he will complement Pogba more than hinder him because he will take off the pressure him. Opposition know that Pogba is our main playmaker and is not even a no.10 (which is not good).
Yeah but that's a lot of money for a player that won't start the big games and we also have to buy a RB, CB and RW, at least one of which will likely cost up to 100 million.We don't have to play them both against top teams. Maybe we can just get Rabiot on a free and rotate them depending on the match.
But this has shown time and time again to not work. Look at Coutinho at Barca, great player but doesn’t fit because he can’t play the midfield 3 role and isn’t their best option on the left wing. Also how many players have we signed who had this same issue? Di Maria, Mkhi, Kagawa, Mata - most of these guys were played out of position or we couldn’t fit them into the team. You can’t just throw money at players with 0 plan and expect it to work, you have to have some idea of how the player will fit into the team and with the rest of the players.I disagree completely. We should be looking exactly at signing the best players available. How to set up the team should be secondary and down to the manager to figure out.
We cant execute our transfer strategy just from what might be considered our "first" line-up and that player one might not be totally compatible with player two. In todays football no team really plays their "first eleven" in more than a few games every season. Injuries, rotation will see to that.
Fernandes is a really good player and seems to be not crazy expensive. We need to replace both Fellaini and as it seems Herrera and possibly Pereira as well. We should be looking at two or even three players in at CM this summer. I rather see would see us concentrate to get the best possible talent into the squad than focusing on FM-setups or "compatibility". Good players can always play together. I dont believe that many people thought that Silva and De Bruyne would theoretically make an excellent CM-pairing either.
We should look at quality and potential over anything else.
Played senior football from the age of 17 I believeLooked at his Wiki page the other day, didn't realise he's been around for ages!!
It's mostly because he largely seems to play as a number 10. Work rate is only one aspect of defending.People worry about his defensive capabilities because of how absurdly productive he has been on the offensive front. His workrate is excellent and will be a fantastic replacement for herrera.
Can I just ask, how come Madrid/Barca/City can all play with one DMC but whenever anyone talks about us doing the exact same thing people go crazy.You can only really fit a midfield or Bruno and Pogba together if you have either a really solid defence or play an extremely possession orientated style.
Just getting a good dm won’t help cover spaces left by 2 attacking midfield players. You have to either be comfortable letting your centre backs be isolated (which we definitely can’t do with our current defence) or push really high up and play a City style where they expect to have most of the possession and try to win the ball back with the high press.
Right now I wouldn’t feel confident at all that we can fit Bruno into the team and moreover I worry about the strategy of just signing the best players available with no plan on how to fit them
Oh, go away. It's about balance. Bar the one Pep team in the league with a very specific play style, everyone else has a at least two traditional CMs in their midfield. If we suddenly decide to press as high, as intense and as consistently as City are, then yeah sure we can go ahead and buy another 10 offensive midfielders for all I care.Intrigued by this guy and im intrigued by the cafes Mourinhoesque safety first mentality
You look at man city and they have two offensive midfielders in front of Fernandinho or Gundogan, in David Silva and Bernard Silva, as well as the attacking De Bruyne
So when people are saying this guy can only play Pogbas role why is that?
Cant we be more ambitious and play with two attack minded central midfielders?
Can this guy work hard like Bernard Silva?
Why be so limited?
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He's not wrong to be fair, he has asked you a question that most fans would ask and you have zero answer, if you're happy with having one CM who can play a ball forward and not panic in possession, midfielders who create nothing and score even less and we can't get out of our own half due their only qualities being defensive, then you crack on go and buy another 10 DMC's for all we care.Oh, go away. It's about balance. Bar the one Pep team in the league with a very specific play style, everyone else has a at least two traditional CMs in their midfield. If we suddenly decide to press as high, as intense and as consistently as City are, then yeah sure we can go ahead and buy another 10 offensive midfielders for all I care.
I mean I had an answer. It's literally written right there in that post you quoted. There's one successful manager that implements that kind of midfield and style of play. Trying to replicate Pep's midfield while not applying that same style very likely won't work.He's not wrong to be fair, he has asked you a question that most fans would ask and you have zero answer, if you're happy with having one CM who can play a ball forward and not panic in possession, midfielders who create nothing and score even less and we can't get out of our own half due their only qualities being defensive, then you crack on go and buy another 10 DMC's for all we care.
It is about balance though, and if you think we currently have the balance right, you're a long long way short, against the bigger sides they could be rotated, only play one, similar to a lot of the top sides but to only have ONE CM who has the capabilities of creating anything is ridiculous.
I posted this in the other thread about him. We should merge both.9 pages and not a single YT video? YouTube makes him look like Portugese KDB!
Sanches was never even called up. Bruno was on the bench.He's a late bloomer? I don't recall him playing in the world cup last year for Portugal. It was always William and Moutinho in central midfield and occasionally Sanches yes?
As a Sporting fan do you think he has what it takes to step up to a giant club like United? Also, given our current squad where does he fit in, and in what formation?I posted this in the other thread about him. We should merge both.
Really, it all just depends on the style of play the manager is trying to implement. David Silva and KDB, even Bernardo Silva and Eriksen were pure AMs when they came here. They were able to transition into hard working mids who are great in the final third.I mean I had an answer. It's literally written right there in that post you quoted. There's one successful manager that implements that kind of midfield and style of play. Trying to replicate Pep's midfield while not applying that same style very likely won't work.
Yeah, great, I agree. I'm not sure why you think I'm happy or why do you think I don't want us to buy a midfielder. I never said I think we currently had the balance right, that is your invention. I said I would prefer we wouldn't spend an extraordinary amount of money on a player that plays in the exact same position that our star player already occupies. Sure, Fernandes might be able to transition into a B2B midfielder but spending that amount money on a "might" is a bit risky. You seem to think that a normal CM isn't able to be creative which is just weird.
