Phelan doubts about signing up

[Offside]

Is Phelan a yes man? I’m not so sure about his credentials for a DoF role but if there’s anyone who knows what a Man United player is and where Man United should be it’s Alex Ferguson’s assistant. No way is he a ‘yes man’

Still though, as the poster above me says...Mike Phelan overseeing the rebuild. Doesn’t seem like the kind of thing you will look back on as a turning point years from now.

 

[Adnan]

Herbert doesn't seem very enamoured with Phelan getting the job. Seems like he's gonna be the DoF..

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[JoaquinJoaquin]

This is going to end in disaster. Appointing someone with very little experience in such a pivotal role smells of the club trying to save money, that or they really are clueless.

Makes me so angry how much of a shambles we have become.

 

[wolvored]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/f...chnical-director-promote-Michael-Carrick.html
Seems likely now

 

[liamp]

Everyone's using the Daily Mail as their source. It just seems too insane to believe.

 

[Bojan11]

Is Phelan a yes man? I’m not so sure about his credentials for a DoF role but if there’s anyone who knows what a Man United player is and where Man United should be it’s Alex Ferguson’s assistant. No way is he a ‘yes man’

Still though, as the poster above me says...Mike Phelan overseeing the rebuild. Doesn’t seem like the kind of thing you will look back on as a turning point years from now.

Steve McClaren was Fergies assistant in our most successful season ever. Should we bring him back and let him oversee everything in a Dutch accent.

Phelan hasn’t shown he can identify a player. When he replaced Querioz back in 2008, I’d say the quality of signings got worse. Where as you can see Querioz clearly influenced Fergie on Nani, Anderson, Ronaldo, Tevez and we wanted a holding midfielder which Fergie wasn’t really a fan of so we signed Hargreaves.

Being Fergies assistant shouldn’t mean you should hand the keys to him because he’s been a failure everywhere else he’s been. We should be signing the best and Mitchell is one of the best.

 

[DownRiver]

I thought René Meulensteen was the one who had the effect on united's playing style. Did Rene come when Ole left? He should have been kept on, not Phelan?!

Ole, Carrick and McKenna are all out of their depths. It's like they are all on work experience.

 

[Tarrou]

if we appoint Phelan as DOF after a year of searching

 

[Adnan]

Steve Bates, Dominic King and Ian Herbert are good Journos and they're reporting Phelan will be the Dof. Looks like the search is over and we can hopefully put forth a strategy with Phelan, the scouts and Ole at the forefront.

 

[Phil]

You can't make it up

 

[fezzerUTD]

These 2 appointments just shows what fecking tools are running the club. I don't even know if i'm for or against any of it but it all just reeks of incompetence.

Both processes especially DOF have gone on so long and literally turned to 2 interim managers to take the club forward on a permanent basis.

These 2 interim managers wouldn't have gotten a sniff and have just fallen into them jobs fortunately and wouldn't be considered Jose was a bit more successful, it is truly baffling me.

 

[VP89]

Phelan might well shine at this job. He knows the club better than most and has a good understanding of the profile of players required to take us forward. I'm not against this appointment.

 

[Reddy Rederson]

roy keane is still out of work right? If Mike gets the tech job, get keane in to assist ole. And that will be the last time we get out run in any game.

 

[The Nani]

You can't make it up

Couldn’t if you tried.

 

[Castia]

......and here we are hoping things are about to change.

Phelan is a coach, he should be coaching.

 

[Zoo]

Interesting interview from a few months back with Phelan on his role as Central Coast Mariners sporting director and what he has learnt from his career. Not sure what to make of this news if true.

https://www.foxsportsasia.com/footb...e-a-modern-vision-for-central-coast-mariners/

 

[Garethw]

It wasn’t that many years ago that one of the favourite conversations on here was, what does Phelan do? I don’t doubt that he’s a great coach and man manager, but he should not be appointed director of football. He’s a coach ffs.

 

[Judas]

Actually scary how blinkered some people are on here to think this is a good idea.

 

[vangagal]

I take Queiroz before Phelan.

 

[Judas]

It wasn’t that many years ago that one of the favourite conversations on here was, what does Phelan do? I don’t doubt that he’s a great coach and man manager, but he should not be appointed director of football. He’s a coach ffs.

Amazing what a few years of shite can do to a mans reputation.

 

[Garethw]

I take Queiroz before Phelan.

100% this.

 

[#07]

Everyone's using the Daily Mail as their source. It just seems too insane to believe.

The sign should have been when people decided that the Mail was telling the truth about Ander wanting £300k a week...

 

[FreakyJim]

You never know, maybe he's presented an incredible project. The Phelanball.

I feel like this whole thing is a play. So surreal.

 

[Norris]

I take Queiroz before Phelan.

I'd prefer this to Phelan to be honest.

 

[Infra-red]

Not sure the the DoF from the Central Coast Mariners and the manager from Molde are the dream team to get one of the world's biggest football clubs back to the top.

Is this really the best we can do. If we didn't sign Phelan up, would he be in contention for DoF jobs at Barca, Real, Bayern or PSG.

 

[Catt]

I take Queiroz before Phelan.

Because?

 

[Catt]

Guess he can't wear shorts as a DOF.

 

[JJ12]

Not sure the the DoF from the Central Coast Mariners and the manager from Molde are the dream team to get one of the world's biggest football clubs back to the top.

Is this really the best we can do. If we didn't sign Phelan up, would he be in contention for DoF jobs at Barca, Real, Bayern or PSG.

Not going to mention the fact he's coached here umpteen years and knows the club inside out?

Doesn't fit the agenda I guess.

I'm not for this move but it's pretty obvious why he could be our DoF and not the others mentioned.

 

[PlayerOne]

Really don't like the sound of this. Ole seems to lean on him for help too, so he might be a big miss there too. I would prefer someone from the outside and with no ties to the club, someone who isn't close to Ole.

 

[quethenoo]

Interesting interview from a few months back with Phelan on his role as Central Coast Mariners sporting director and what he has learnt from his career. Not sure what to make of this news if true.

https://www.foxsportsasia.com/footb...e-a-modern-vision-for-central-coast-mariners/

Well it at least appears he has a clear idea of how the sporting side of a club should be run, even if it's unclear what that vision is.

 

[devilish]

So we spent an entire year on this project only to hire former Central Coast Mariners's technical director? Jeez. We might as well not hired anyone.

Oh well it all makes sense now. We got the man who was out of depth at Cardiff as manager + the failed Hull no 2 as technical director. We might as well put Gaz as CEO while at it.

 

[Bestietom]

If Phelan does accept the DOF job then I hope Ole brings back Meulensteen as assistant.

 

[Inigo Montoya]

Not happening.

It's already been mooted that Carrick will be stepping up.

 

[Infra-red]

Not going to mention the fact he's coached here umpteen years and knows the club inside out?

Doesn't fit the agenda I guess.

I'm not for this move but it's pretty obvious why he could be our DoF and not the others mentioned.

Don't get me wrong, I'd rather Phelan was doing the DoF job than Woodward (he at least knows something about football), I just find it hard to believe that there are no more qualified candidates.

 

[C'est Moi Cantona]

If Phelan does accept the DOF job then I hope Ole brings back Meulensteen as assistant.

Can we just stop with all this going back to how it used to be nonsense.

I hated Jose with a passion, but I'm beginning to wish he'd stayed a bit longer now, so this even worse situation that seems to be evolving might never have happened.

 

[MelvinYeo]

Phelan may have the club's interests at heart yada yada but it smacks of people who latched onto SAF's genius trying to blag their way into a job way above their competence level (not referring to Ole here but more of Phelan, Rene).

 

[macheda14]

So we spent an entire year on this project only to hire former Central Coast Mariners's technical director? Jeez. We might as well not hired anyone.

Oh well it all makes sense now. We got the man who was out of depth at Cardiff as manager + the failed Hull no 2 as technical director. We might as well put Gaz as CEO while at it.

Monchi was a goalkeeper when he took over at Sevilla, Txiki Begiristain was a commentator, VDS takes care more of the business side than the football side at Ajax and he was a goalkeeper.

Phelan spent much of the end of his career under Fergie as assistant manager, which was pretty much assistant sporting director. The only thing we don’t know he’s good at is dealing and negotiating. But if he’s staying on as DoF you know he will be fighting for strong investment into the squad, the youth facilities etc etc

I’m not saying it’s the right choice, but it isn’t as terrible a move as it looks

 

[fps]

This board, having signed outsider after outsider, playing and non-playing staff alike, now appears hell-bent on getting former Man Utd figures back into the club.

In each case, it seems like a knee-jerk reaction. For instance OGS, who I like very much, has been given the job just in time for the players to start treating him like a temp, at the most important moment of United's season. Phelan as technical director? There's no CV there for it, just as with Ole. Woodward appears to have all the instincts of a losing punchdrunk gambler in Vegas.

I see the logic of Phelan on transfers, however - Man Utd's most recent successes were built on players who became greats from playing for Manchester United. That has been utterly lost in the series of imports who have already won titles and are putting their feet up too often at the club - DiMaria, Sanchez, Pogba, Matic, Schweinsteiger, etc. Fred, OK, not doing well, but clearly he cares about being at the club and that opportunity enormously. In a way, Fellaini was the same. Signing players who are on the roundabout with dreams of Madrid or Barca, or memories of them, is no way forward.

 

[devilish]

Monchi was a goalkeeper when he took over at Sevilla, Txiki Begiristain was a commentator, VDS takes care more of the business side than the football side at Ajax and he was a goalkeeper.

Phelan spent much of the end of his career under Fergie as assistant manager, which was pretty much assistant sporting director. The only thing we don’t know he’s good at is dealing and negotiating. But if he’s staying on as DoF you know he will be fighting for strong investment into the squad, the youth facilities etc etc

I’m not saying it’s the right choice, but it isn’t as terrible a move as it looks

United are in deep shit. The squad isn't good enough, the board is all over the place and we just hired some rookie who failed at Cardiff as manager. The last thing we need is yet another rookie covering a role he has no experience in especially since that someone is rumoured to have been SAF's ball boy.

I have no qualms having Phelan as no 2 but giving him such an important role is silly, especially at a time when the team he's coaching can't stop being humiliated on the pitch. FFS we've picked this guy from a club no one had ever heard about after failing at Norwich and Hull. He should be fighting to justify a contract here rather then asking for a bloody promotion.

 

[RedDevil@84]

I think Phelan will be able to do a job. Anyways, the target is to make us the next Arsenal (Wenger's final years one). He should be enough.