In fairness to Suarez, it wasn't at a great height for him as he ended up thigh-ing the ball onto the crossbar. I have no doubt that were it an inch lower he'd have got his foot on it and scored.
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Fair enough, and not responding solely to you - I just read grumblings in the social media, and the commentators were mentioning this as well "oh he's celebrating". He just fecking scored a goal in a CL semi, what is he going to do start crying and pulling his hair out? Numpties.Thankfully not English to begin with but anyway.
There is the small fact of Liverpool making absolute fools of themselves as a club on his behalf defending him over racially abusing Evra but thats their own fault for being stupid. Plus not like that counted to him when he enginerred the move to Barca to begin with.
My point being all the deluded Liverpool fans who in the build up couldnt grasp the notion that Suarez doesnt feel the same for them as they do for him and believed he wouldnt even show up against them due to his deep love for the club had the idea thrown out the window pretty quickly. Seeing their reactions to him celebrating was brilliant. Utter disbelief.
I personally haven't seen anyone say last night makes him the GOAT99% of the time, Suarez puts it away
I agree a goal is a goal and Messi played well yesterday. But when you get comments talking as if last night was an all time great performance, it's completely OTT.
There's been plenty that claim the performance last night makes him the GOAT. Not OTT?
People have been calling him the GOAT for about 5 or 6 years now Great post, I feel like Barca play soak up pressure easily only to recoil when needed and kill the match with one of their geniuses upfront. I've seen this play out against Real Madrid, Atletico etc, Barce seem on the "ropes" only to score 2 - 3 in 10 minutes and put the match out of touch.
Think Barca will lose at Anfield 3-1 or 3-2, but will be comfortable throughout.
I can definitely see Liverpool scoring 3+ goals but there is no way Barcelona doesn't score with Liverpool having to pour everything into attack. Liverpool played well and created chances but when it mattered one man made the difference. The quality in the final third from Barça was is levels above
I think this year Barca nailed on to win the CL, I can't see Ajax or Spurs causing any problem to this Barca side.
However, still hoping for an unlikely upset by Ajax or Spurs.
However, still hoping for an unlikely upset by Ajax or Spurs.
Read through this exact thread during the latter part of the game and after.I personally haven't seen anyone say last night makes him the GOAT
He's not a Liverpool fan, he's SiErreSiete fan.
Pool, were good, that's not enough, in camp nou . You have to be even better than good, Barca stood off for 20 mins in 2nd half, I think because they did so much running in 1st half. He made a change and Barca, were back in game, played counter attack with a plomb.
They will do that at Anfield as well, to many pool players not doing what they have done most games, Robertson was off, crosses were poor, VVD, was not at his best, probably his fault for Suarez goal, Henderson is awful slows it down for them. And the Gomez pick over Arlond was strange? Chances fell to wrong guy Milner only scores from spot.
Overall Barca just picked them off , it's what they can do. If Spurs go through, and Kane and Son play in final I fancy they beat Barca, hope Ajax get there and win it.
They will do that at Anfield as well, to many pool players not doing what they have done most games, Robertson was off, crosses were poor, VVD, was not at his best, probably his fault for Suarez goal, Henderson is awful slows it down for them. And the Gomez pick over Arlond was strange? Chances fell to wrong guy Milner only scores from spot.
Overall Barca just picked them off , it's what they can do. If Spurs go through, and Kane and Son play in final I fancy they beat Barca, hope Ajax get there and win it.
You think Tottenham are going to beat Barcelona? Even though the much better Liverpool just got shattered 3-0 by them?
I know its a funny old game but come on.
Would like to see a Ajax v Barça CL final, and hope it’s a great game.
Think that matchup would be best.
Think that matchup would be best.
Football vs football
Johan Cruijff vs Johan Cruijff
What a match can this be!
Iff Ajax plays like the away games against Juve or Real it could be a sick 3-3 4-4 4-3 3-4 match.
Wernt pool, lucky to beat them at Anfield not so long ago, and Spurs are a better side, with son and Kane available, just a theory, it's one off game, ..Pool were beaten at camp nou ? Very different there than a neutral venue. Hope Ajax get there. Spurs got a Draw in the camp nou as well. So it's not as much a funny old game if you see the bigger picture?
You're mixing all sorts of stuff into the mix here.
Spurs drew a group game where Barcelona had already qualified, and only gave Messi a 20min piss about.
The Spanish clubs know when to peak. It's like when Tottenham roasted Madrid in again, the group stages.
Ajax will see Tottenham off, and as long as we don't get one of those "famous Anfield nights", then Barcelona will surely see off Ajax too.
You got those chances because Liverpool were pushing almost everyone forward and leaving large gaps.
Point is they outplayed you for large parts, couldn't take their chances, conceded and needed to push men forward to get a goal.
The problem was that they didn't take their chances. The fault really lied with Salah, Mane and Milner (I mean, you have to expect Barcelona to score at least one at Camp Nou) but no one is going to blame them but Klopp instead.
Yeah. Klopp always does this Gomez at RB thing when he is playing big teams. It never works and they have like what, 3 games remaining...he should have just risked it and played Firmino...they most likely lost the league. He could have just rested Firmino in the league or something.
Klopp... what an idiot. Going that defensive and it has cost Liverpool. CL final gone in 1 tie. But it's good that cowards are punished. Liverpool seriously have all the tools to make Barca suffer and then Klopp did everything to make it easy for Barcelona. Unbelievable. I still can't understand how Liverpool started this game. Now it's 3-0 and they're done. Of course Liverpool had chances to score, but it doesn't change that if they played their own game (pressing high) they would have had a far bigger chance to get a good result. Even in the second half when Liverpool brought more energy for a while Barcelona was in trouble straight away. This Barcelona team does not deal that well with pressure anymore.
Anyway hopefully a Barcelona vs Ajax final, but Ajax-Spurs is not done yet. Sadly Ajax forgot to put the nail in the coffin. Spurs are still in it, although obviously it's still a good result for Ajax to get an away win. Still (at least) 90 mins to go though.
Anyway hopefully a Barcelona vs Ajax final, but Ajax-Spurs is not done yet. Sadly Ajax forgot to put the nail in the coffin. Spurs are still in it, although obviously it's still a good result for Ajax to get an away win. Still (at least) 90 mins to go though.
Barca annihilated Spurs 4-2 already this season
Hopefully Messi gets banned for that "punch" on Fabinho, Barca appeal it, he finishes Pool off at Anfield, then his appeal is rejected and he's banned against Ajax.
Which Pub did you go to? As I might head there for the away tie.
Quite funny to see nothing being mentioned about Mane slapping Vidal. If he was a United player he'd be given a retroactive ban.
I still have an awful pessimistic feeling that Liverpool will do it.
I wouldn’t rule it out. If they score early it’s game on.
So do I , I can see that Dembele miss at the end coming back to bite Barcelona. A miss like that deserves to be punished. But I hope not this time
Never going to happen. It's one thing to be complacent and switch off against Roma and another to repeat it against a much better team 1 year later when the wounds are still fresh from that freak result.
If they get eliminated twice in a row having a 3 goal lead Valverde can say good bye.
The special one
It's not impossible. You can put this Barcelona team under a lot of pressure especially when you have the physical advantage as Livepool clearly do. So Liverpool will have chances to score. The question is whether Barcelona can maintain control of the tie and stem Livepool momentum. A goal from Barcelona effectively kills the tie.
While Barcelona is heavily favored to go through, they have shown a tendency to go into complete meltdowns in the Champions League (See Roma 0-3, PSG 0-4, and Juventus 0-3) in recent years and it wouldn't shock me to somehow see Liverpool make a comeback in Anfield.
Crossing fingers for Barcelona to finish the job. If they don't make it to the final, they deserve to be labeled as the biggest bottlers in modern football.
Crossing fingers for Barcelona to finish the job. If they don't make it to the final, they deserve to be labeled as the biggest bottlers in modern football.
Yes, such big bottlers to lose to teams that went on to the CL final and Roma being one goal off the final
What a dumb post
Very true, they've really struggled away from home the last few years in the later stages. An early goal by Liverpool and all bets are off.
Liverpool can even score two goals, Barca will definitley get one
Liverpool’s defense can be cut open as much as Barca’s
Liverpool’s defense can be cut open as much as Barca’s
Just can't see how Barcalona won't score.
CL 2019 Matches played (after quarter finals)
Ajax.........10 5 4 1 19-10
Barcelona.10 7 3 0 23-6
FC Porto...10 5 2 3 20-15
Juventus...10 5 1 4 14-9
Liverpool..10 6 1 3 18-9
Man City...10 5 1 2 30-12
Man Utd....10 4 1 5 10-10
Tot. Hots...10 5 2 3 17-14
Including CL qualification matches:
Ajax.........16 9 6 1 32-14
Barcelona.10 7 3 0 23-6
FC Porto...10 5 2 3 20-15
Juventus...10 5 1 4 14-9
Liverpool..10 6 1 3 18-9
Man City...10 5 1 2 30-12
Man Utd....10 4 1 5 10-10
Tot. Hots...10 5 2 3 17-14
Current teams left in the semi final:
Ajax.........11 6 4 1 20-10
Barcelona.11 8 3 0 26-6
Liverpool..11 6 1 4 18-12
Tot. Hots...11 5 2 4 17-15
Including CL qualification matches:
Ajax.........17 10 6 1 33-14
Barcelona.11 8 3 0 26-6
Liverpool..11 6 1 4 18-12
Tot. Hots...11 5 2 4 17-15
Based solely on these statistics, it would appear to me Barca are clear favourites, mostly due to conceding on average 0.54 goals per match, while producing 2.36 goals per match. Ajax comes closest to that productivity at 1.94 and 0.82 against per match over 17 matches (would be 1.81 vs 0.91 over 11 matches), whereas Liverpool (1.63 vs 1.09) and Tottenham (1.54 vs 1.36) are doing worse in both areas.
As such, I would not give Liverpool much chance given their comparative performance and the required score to advance. They would need to at least do 50% of goals conceded by Barca throughout this entire CL to force an extension or penalties, without conceding any goals where it is statistically likely Liverpool will concede once against Barça.
Tottenham's main weakness appears to be conceding far too many goals (almost as many as they score) and are even more likely to draw or lose than win (4+2 vs 5 matches, whereas all other teams have more wins than losses and draws combined). Of course, they only need a slight win with at least two goals scored. Scoring twice has been a tough task for them this CL season though. Hence I'd sooner see a draw, or a win for Ajax, than a 2-1 or better win for Tottenham.
...M W D L G
Barcelona.10 7 3 0 23-6
FC Porto...10 5 2 3 20-15
Juventus...10 5 1 4 14-9
Liverpool..10 6 1 3 18-9
Man City...10 5 1 2 30-12
Man Utd....10 4 1 5 10-10
Tot. Hots...10 5 2 3 17-14
Including CL qualification matches:
...M W D L G
Barcelona.10 7 3 0 23-6
FC Porto...10 5 2 3 20-15
Juventus...10 5 1 4 14-9
Liverpool..10 6 1 3 18-9
Man City...10 5 1 2 30-12
Man Utd....10 4 1 5 10-10
Tot. Hots...10 5 2 3 17-14
Current teams left in the semi final:
...M W D L G
Barcelona.11 8 3 0 26-6
Liverpool..11 6 1 4 18-12
Tot. Hots...11 5 2 4 17-15
Including CL qualification matches:
...M W D L G
Barcelona.11 8 3 0 26-6
Liverpool..11 6 1 4 18-12
Tot. Hots...11 5 2 4 17-15
Based solely on these statistics, it would appear to me Barca are clear favourites, mostly due to conceding on average 0.54 goals per match, while producing 2.36 goals per match. Ajax comes closest to that productivity at 1.94 and 0.82 against per match over 17 matches (would be 1.81 vs 0.91 over 11 matches), whereas Liverpool (1.63 vs 1.09) and Tottenham (1.54 vs 1.36) are doing worse in both areas.
As such, I would not give Liverpool much chance given their comparative performance and the required score to advance. They would need to at least do 50% of goals conceded by Barca throughout this entire CL to force an extension or penalties, without conceding any goals where it is statistically likely Liverpool will concede once against Barça.
Tottenham's main weakness appears to be conceding far too many goals (almost as many as they score) and are even more likely to draw or lose than win (4+2 vs 5 matches, whereas all other teams have more wins than losses and draws combined). Of course, they only need a slight win with at least two goals scored. Scoring twice has been a tough task for them this CL season though. Hence I'd sooner see a draw, or a win for Ajax, than a 2-1 or better win for Tottenham.
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Klopp lost them the game, the team setup was fine, at one nil down with 15 minutes to go, all you he had to do is close up shop, break up the game and slow the game down, and take a one nil lost, then back at Anfield, beat them 3 -1 or 4 - 1.What Barcelona showed is they are more than comfortable to soak up pressure and hit Liverpool on the break. Next weeks return leg could end up embrassing for Liverpool.
Larger and more pixels please, I found this hard to wank to
Although good result for Barca I would still hold your horses. Barca haven't been impressive away from home in the CL, even a poor team like us dominated them. If Liverpool can get a couple of early goals they will be right in it, they are also game raising cnuts at Anfield. I would hope Barca can see off the first 20 minutes or so without conceding then they will get through imo.
Sometimes it's really good to be wrong.