How and why did it go so wrong for Ole?

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Is there really such a thing as a new manager bounce? Does that really mean players who downed tools.
 

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When he got the job he told them how wonderful they were and how they all deserved to be at United, which they needed to hear post Jose. Then they started getting complacent and certain players were phoning it in so he gave the team a bollocking and singled out individuals who hadn't been performing well enough, then they just reverted back to the shithouses they are.
Good post.
I think we can look at the PSG home game as a turning point

PSG (h) - Both Martial and Lingard injured in the first half, suddenly our attack which had looked so good up till then broken up. First loss under Ole as well
Chelsea (a) - Great performance and result albeit against a side who were 'downing tools'
Liverpool (h) - More injuries, Matic the day before the game, Herrera and Rashford during the game, suddenly our midfield which had looked so good up till then broken up. OT atmosphere basically got us through the game
Palace (a) - Good result albeit against a team awful at home
Southampton (h) - Late winner, gave away 2 goals the start of our defence starting to creek again?
PSG (a) - Magical night made more so by the team we had to field (Matic, Herrera, Martial and Lingard all still injured. Pogba suspended)
Arsenal (a) and beyond - well we know what happens from here on out

There could be a valid argument that the reasons things started going to shit when the UCL started up again is (apart from the disruption to the starting XI) due to the extra midweek game. Less work on the training ground to focus on fitness, team shape and style of play and more of a focus on recovery and the opposition and I believe there's studies that prove players will naturally revert to type in these scenarios and that's why the high pressing has gone, the counter attacking has gone, the team shape has gone etc etc

Or of course it was all just a new manager bounce and the players aren't actually that good
Very good post. Gives some perspective honestly.
 

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I hope you describing OGS as a "nepotistic knob" will come back to haunt you. How can you say that about a man that´s United through and through, took over a hopeless situation and gave us a glimpse of hope, has talked frankly about what he wants to do and has not had a preseason or transfer window yet? I agree with you on some (quite a lot) of the players but who do you think would have been able to get this group higher? The plain fact is that United have recruited very badly over a long period and OGS is left with that mess to sort out. I trust him more than Moyes,Van Gaal and that "great" manager that some think Mourinho is. He could not be botherd to unpack and stayed in a hotel showing clearly he was not in it all the way. OGS at least will give his all and I suspect he will surprise you.
I love the man. I'm only trying to be as critical of him as I have been of the people I blame even more. And he's very last on my list for a reason. If he's going to be successful, Ole will need to be as ruthless as he has hinted. That means selling some of the kids he may have adored as a youth team coach. Can't hang on to them forever
 

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The PSG match wasn’t something we could build on, it was a fluke win, but the players did gave their all.
I think the main reason why Ole didn’t go with the same midfield against Arsenal was because McTominay was gassed after the PSG. match and needed a rest.
I wouldn't have expected him to choose that same trio for the arsenal clash but considering how ineffective Matic and Pogba have been for different reasons for a lot of our games since that night, why not have dropped the two of them and used the other options to him in the past month or so.
 

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Zidane was hired as RM manager, and our most important player got his head turned.
 

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I see a couple of reasons. First of all, we announced his permanent deal at the worst possible time. You just simply don't change stuff when it is working.

Second is just the physical fatigue. In Ole's first few games, the players ran themselves to the ground and no doubt they would have jelly legs since basically they've never had to do that before. It's easy to ridicule "work-rate" but athleticism is the single biggest defining factor in modern sports.
 

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It hasn't gone wrong. It just went weirdly right for a while, then back to the expected level given the attitude and quality of the players. They just phoned it in more than ever this time round.
Exactly this.
 

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Probably the greatest new managerial bounce of all time. The shackles were off after Mourinho and there was no pressure and the players could go out and express themselves. Suddenly Top 4 which was nigh on impossible at the time of Solskjaer’s appointment was back on and the players started to crumble under the pressure because they don’t have the mental strength they need to complete. Even when Spurs, Chelsea and Arsenal started to wobble with the finishing line in sight we couldn’t capitalise and now we are 6th where we before with the same despondency we had under Mourinho.
 

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It’s been covered in other threads, but the general consensus seems to be a blend of the players stopped playing as soon as he got his contract, and we had to stop our new found pressing game because the players weren’t conditioned for it due to Jose’s different ideas about fitness and training.
Yeah i think basically this...which is pretty damning on the players though, both on their mentality/loyalty and their fitness. We were the laziest team under Jose by quite a big margin, so you would imagine after playing half a season and running much less than pretty much everyone else, they should have some gas left in the tank.

Go back and watch the first 5-6 games under Ole, we looked like a completely different team, pressing high and winning the ball in advanced positions and loads of offensive runs when we won the ball which is why Pogba did so well i imagine. The last 10 games or so, you could see we tried playing that way at the start of the games, but would fade out around the 15-20 minute mark and revert to the old zombie playing style we have seen a bit to much of over the years.

Players like Mata, Lukaku and Matic i think will have no place here next year if this is the style we want to play.
 

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Glad to see there is a fair amount of common sense on here. Ole started like a house on fire and that was great. Just think if he had carried on like that we would now be in the top four, in the FA cup final and probably the European Cup final. Then what? Everyone would be saying it was all Mourinho's fault, Ed would be saying we don't need any signings this year and the Prem. League title would be in the bag for next year. Ole would be a God.

Reality check. Ole managed the start for a mixture of the reasons already mentioned on here but it was never going to be as good as the beginning because basically the players are not good enough as a whole, the squad is too weak to be able to cope with any injuries ( of which there were many ) when the games were coming thick and fast.

Throw in all the things we have no idea about but can speculate on such as contract negotiations, players throwing hissy fits when left out so Ole could give other players a chance. People need to calm down, wait till the summer is over and see what players are brought in and how the team start the season. If things are bad then start to judge Ole but don't expect too much too soon or we will be back to square one in no time. Bad enough that Ed cracks under pressure as it is, i.e. Going from giving the manager an extension to sacking him in the space of six months.
 

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Hit by injuries and a tight schedule plus we've been up against teams such as Barcelona, Arsenal, City and Chelsea. I honestly wasn't expecting much from the last two months - I believe the Everton and Huddersfield games stands out as the only real surprises - plus the Wolves result but they've surprised everyone lately it seems. We looked bad in our win against Watford too but then again we definitely deserved better against Arsenal so that sort of evens out I suppose. Also I would say individual errors in our defense and from our goalkeeper has played a significant part - and reaped max punishment too at the most crucial of moments.

These six months has also been a period of tests and trials for Ole - which one has to expect from a new manager. Some of our underperforming players (Sanchez, Matic, Lukaku) are real class acts when on top of their games so even though it's easy to criticize the manager from the sideline for choosing them over other more motivated contenders actually willing to give a damn - it's equally understanding why he would want to try them out and gift them a final chance before deciding their future. After all we've invested a lot of money into them and they're players I believe any club would desire when at top of their games.

I'm not concerned about Ole to be fair I think he's achieved as much as anyone would be able to during his first six months - way more than I personally dared hope for at least - but I'm more concerned with what so many others are pointing out that this club doesn't really have a real sports-oriented structure. That it's run as a commercial enterprise - a cash-cow - more so than a football club. We can't rely on CEOs and businessmen making decisions on the athletic side of things - they're as clueless as the rest of us in that regard. You need a proper well-organized setup of professionals and experts making all the team-related decisions - and if we don't get that in place I fear no manager in the world will be able to lift us back up.
 
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The guy has been here a few months. I’m not actually sure anything has gone wrong for him. The wrongness at the club is in no way ole’s doing (some weird substitutions aside), and was wronging it’s wrongness long before he arrived.

This forum is full of folks who just want to moan at anything and anybody it seems.

Leave him alone for now. Strap in and prepare for a bumpy ride and if you can’t hack it then give up following football....

Edit.... you are all a bunch of drama queens
 

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After first few very good performances at the start, which gave him wins, suddenly we got back into position to fight for top 4 again. That moment he made a decision to betray, sellout those performances and shift towards more result based approach. He said so himself in interview. Can imagine reactions, board with money in their eyes, Ole knowing that top 4 would get him perma job, fans love being in CL just for sake of it.

After that even we were still winning, with each passing game, our performances went to shit and to more shit, so here we are at the end. With streak of games with nothing to lean to if we dont win 3 points and in games were we won (think 2 wins), we looked shit and lucky to get them.
 

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Its difficult to comprehend what is going on. Ole arrives and with his backroom 'team' apparently transforms a motely crew of players into winning ways, with attractive football, for over a dozen games. Admittedly there were some flukes in there with De Gea playing out of his skin against Spurs, but by and large we were 'flying' and the future seemed bright. Then all of a sudden, or as some say the moment Ole was made permanent manager, the wheels started to come off. Its hard to imagine Ole said or did anything different... but maybe he did!

Whatever, the players went back to the low confidence, poor spirited, fractious squad they were under Mourinho, and we are all now back in the 'dumps' wondering what the hell comes next? Ole represents the 'United way' for some (whatever that is supposed to mean) so we have to go on with that belief for now. Ole's lack of top level management experience is going to be a weakness at times so a good solid DoF needs to be on hand to understand him, to aid him and maybe at times protect him. Football wise Ole knows what he wants to see, the big question is does he know how to get it?

Ole has hinted he wants to rejuvenate the squad, not exactly sure what that means, except some players will be going and presumably some new ones arriving, either from within the club itself or on the open market. It may mean changes in training routines, systems of play, producing a 'United way of playing' that will run through the clubs players from top to bottom, we shall have to see, but wishing and hoping (and thinking and praying!!) wont be enough, some major and strong-minded decisions have to be made, lets hope Ole knows which ones and he gets the time to do it!
 
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It hasn't gone wrong. It just went weirdly right for a while, then back to the expected level given the attitude and quality of the players. They just phoned it in more than ever this time round.
This combined with some tactical ineptness from Ole.
 

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It's a mix of too many reasons and we will only know for sure by next year this time or sooner.

1. New manager bounce: A lot of these players were not playing for Mourinho and the dressing room had become toxic. When Ole came with his smile and freedom it made everyone a new turn. The games we had in the start were also easy so all looked really great.

2. Injuries: Ole found a system and it clicked. Herrera allowed Pogba the freedom to find passes and Rashford found space. All went to shit when both got injured in the Liverpool game. Also we lost Matic Martial and Lingard before that game. The quality of players beyond the first XI were not good Sanchez and Fred hadn't performed all season and Ole had rightly pointed Lukaku needed fitness to sharpen up which he did.

Mentality : This is the one which confuses me the most and has been happening since SAF left the club. We have had some of the top coaches at the club but they too became defensive really quick when things went wrong. Is it the recruitment where we have bought soft players who cant cope with the pressure or are just too moody. If someone here could explain it because this is a big reason for our demise since SAF.

4. Fitness: The fitness and conditioning is poor.

5. Off the field : Contract talks (De Gea, Rashford, Herrera and Mata) and transfer talks (Lukaku and Pogba) is not healthy for the dressing room. If players are not committed to the club its going to affect perfomance which it did. Lukaku, Pogba, Rashford and De gea have been under performing since their commitment is in question.

Ole: He is still an inexperienced coach and managed the team poorly imho when performances were not going our way. No fixed style of play affected performances and results. Favoritism of certain individuals even when they were very very poor (Young, Rashford and may i say De Gea) gives the wrong message to the squad. He has a long way ahead and needs to make the following changes to the squad:

- Develop a style of play and philosophy
- Improve fitness, conditioning and mentality of the squad
- Cut out the non commited players and build a squad who can run through the wall for the club
- Drop players when not performing
- Get recruitment right, players who are not technically good but mentally as well.
 

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It just typical caretaker manager syndrome, things are bad under the previous manager, some one new comes in gets a bounce but its doesn't last, happens all the time.

I don't know why people are so shocked that a guy who no one thought was good enough at Christmas is actually struggling to turn round which is probably the most difficult job in football right now.
 

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Criminally unfit players with pathetically weak mentalities. A squad full of flat track bullies, zero leaders and no one who can contribute any nous in bigger games.

A wage structure fecked up beyond all recognition by Sanchez and compounded by players like De Gea and Pogba who don't really want to be here. So many contract situations shitting on squad morale.

No doubt the shift from "nice guy Ole he's just the caretaker and he's not being mean to us" to "permanent manager Ole just told me I was shite and won't be playing at the weekend" didn't help.
 

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De Gea? We've been playing the same shite football from well before the PSG game. Conceding the same number of chances. The difference is the God with the gloves turned into a mere mortal.
 

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I'm sure this has been discussed but I didn't see a thread for it, so forgive me if one already exists.

Before I start I just want to say I am not bashing Ole, I adore the man, I just cannot wrap my head around how things could go from so good to so bad in the blink of an eye. Up until after the PSG game we were absolutely flying, we were playing attacking football, scoring goals and our top players were on song. However ever since that famous night in Paris we have fallen back into a state of misery that has followed us since Sir Alex retired, the football is rubbish, the results are bad and the future that looked so bright only a few months ago now looks as bleak as ever. How is this possible? I didn't expect us to be brilliant all season under Ole, but I certainly didn't expect this collapse either. Have the players stopped playing for Ole? Why play for him in the first place then. Have teams quickly started to figure out how to play against us? Has everyone just stopped caring? My mind is going crazy trying to figure out a reason for this madness.

The 'new manager bounce' wore off. They resorted back to type and nothing in the club had changed except for the hiring of a new manager.

I know Jose is despised by many here but have you ever wondered why such a successful manager like that said getting this team to come second last season was one of his finest achievements? That meant volumes.

Let's look at the bright side. Now we know what the real issues are. Gives us a better chance to fix them.
 

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It just typical caretaker manager syndrome, things are bad under the previous manager, some one new comes in gets a bounce but its doesn't last, happens all the time.

I don't know why people are so shocked that a guy who no one thought was good enough at Christmas is actually struggling to turn round which is probably the most difficult job in football right now.
Because many really thought he was the man to take us forward. For no sensible reason of course but still.
 

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cardiff game is to save his job. and for someone like ole, moyes, hughes, etc, it's hard for them to come back when they get sacked from a title winning club, they usually end up managing teams like fullham, watford, huddersfield, etc, for the remainder of their managerial careers.

depending on which teams you are managing these days you don't get much time to turn things around

i'm sure he is facing sack already

I genuinely hope you’re not a betting man, his job couldn’t be any more safe, the Cardiff match is completely meaningless.
doesn't matter. they haven't won in ages now. it's only cardiff... lose or maybe even draw... he could face sack.
 
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Less work on the training ground to focus on fitness, team shape and style of play and more of a focus on recovery and the opposition and I believe there's studies that prove players will naturally revert to type in these scenarios and that's why the high pressing has gone, the counter attacking has gone, the team shape has gone etc etc
Interesting. Do you have any links to these studies? Sounds logical. I refuse to believe that Ole is too incompetent to realise why the tactics actually worked in the early days, how it collapsed later, and that he did this out of his own will; all while a nobody like myself can see this. That's just stupid.
 

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cardiff game is to save his job. and for someone like ole, moyes, hughes, etc, it's hard for them to come back when they get sacked from a title winning club, they usually end up managing teams like fullham, watford, huddersfield, etc, for the remainder of their managerial careers.

depending on which teams you are managing these days you don't get much time to turn things around

i'm sure he is facing sack already
:lol::lol::lol:
 

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Maybe when Ole got the job he went in the dressing room and said 'Lads I got the job, you can revert back to normal now. Pints are on me tonight'. Just as believable as half the theories on here.
 

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cardiff game is to save his job. and for someone like ole, moyes, hughes, etc, it's hard for them to come back when they get sacked from a title winning club, they usually end up managing teams like fullham, watford, huddersfield, etc, for the remainder of their managerial careers.

depending on which teams you are managing these days you don't get much time to turn things around

i'm sure he is facing sack already
I genuinely hope you’re not a betting man, his job couldn’t be any more safe, the Cardiff match is completely meaningless.
 

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cardiff game is to save his job. and for someone like ole, moyes, hughes, etc, it's hard for them to come back when they get sacked from a title winning club, they usually end up managing teams like fullham, watford, huddersfield, etc, for the remainder of their managerial careers.

depending on which teams you are managing these days you don't get much time to turn things around

i'm sure he is facing sack already
What are you on about? Phelan has literally been announced as assistant manager today.

That's basically a statement that the club will stick with Solskjaer for the Summer at least.
 

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psychology is very interesting in football. It was clear the Mourinho had lost the dressing room and that the overall confidence of the squad was very low.
Ole came in as a fresh person with positive mentality and the players started to grow in confidence and play much better. Pogba played bloody awesome during this time and Rashford was scoring goals.

As time goes on though this early boost did go down. Our general ideas and tactics didn't seem to evolve or make us play any better. We still did win games, but we didn't play as well. This lack of development probably effected the players mentality and confidence dropped. Effort from some did go down and others tried, but dropped in form.
Then came a period of big games and things started going wrong. We went from having attacking players in fresh form into all them being low on confidence, form or injured.

This was a big test for Ole, but he didn't really know what to do. Tactics, man management and a lot of things didn't work out and he didn't know how to turn things around once the negative momentum started.

We also lack players who can perform in the dark. Leaders that step up in terms of performances when we most need them even if things are not working out around them. I think Herrera got a bit in that, but he was out injured for most of the time. Mctominay did really well though, but he is not raising the players around him as much.

Our expected big players in terms of scoring goals in Lukaku, Rashford, Pogba, Martial, Sanchez (before this season) have all been pretty useless recently in terms of scoring goals. Plus De gea has been almost as bad as I would have been in goal recently giving away goals in almost every game.
 

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Because many really thought he was the man to take us forward. For no sensible reason of course but still.
and many are still refusing to admit it was a rash decision, going down the old he deserves a summer routine... yeah cos letting an obvious rash decision spend hundreds of millions sounds out of loyalty is much better idea then admitting you made a mistake....
 

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Chronology:

a) New manager boost
b) Some "easy" consecutive PL games. Xmas + Honeymoon in Winter happiness.
c) Back in the Top4 race


downward spiral begins

d) 2-0 defeat at Paris
e) Miracle at Paris but VAR controversy included
f) Injuries, lack of fitness

g) gets appointed as new manager
h) players relax, DDG and Pogba flirt with other clubs or seem unhappy
i) team can't handle the pressure to stay in the Top4 race, incredible dip in performance by some players (DDG, Young, Matic, Fred, Pogba, Rashford, Martial, Lukaku), not even with Autumn '18 Mourinho the lack of quality, effort or ideas seemed so evident.
j) Wolves and the FA Cup.
k) UCL QFs vs Barça
l) Everton 4-0 Man Utd
m) Huddersfield 1-1 Man Utd. Top4 race ends.
 
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cardiff game is to save his job. and for someone like ole, moyes, hughes, etc, it's hard for them to come back when they get sacked from a title winning club, they usually end up managing teams like fullham, watford, huddersfield, etc, for the remainder of their managerial careers.

depending on which teams you are managing these days you don't get much time to turn things around

i'm sure he is facing sack already



doesn't matter. they haven't won in ages now. it's only cardiff... lose or maybe even draw... he could face sack.
:lol:
 

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Because we have a team of mercenaries due to terrible transfer decisions and soon as they weren't getting their own way they have downed tools again. There has to come a point when we stop blaming managers and start looking at the common themes. Players and board.
 

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Yeah i think basically this...which is pretty damning on the players though, both on their mentality/loyalty and their fitness. We were the laziest team under Jose by quite a big margin, so you would imagine after playing half a season and running much less than pretty much everyone else, they should have some gas left in the tank.

Go back and watch the first 5-6 games under Ole, we looked like a completely different team, pressing high and winning the ball in advanced positions and loads of offensive runs when we won the ball which is why Pogba did so well i imagine. The last 10 games or so, you could see we tried playing that way at the start of the games, but would fade out around the 15-20 minute mark and revert to the old zombie playing style we have seen a bit to much of over the years.

Players like Mata, Lukaku and Matic i think will have no place here next year if this is the style we want to play.
I'd pin that on Jose. I remember Bailly's debut for us and I IIRC he was blowing out of his arse by the 75th minute after a supposed good pre-season. It wasnt accidental by Jose, he likes to play the same players all season long. If you're going to do that; you need plenty of horse placenta and PED's like Pep or, you need to take it easy on the players.

Rest defence, no pressing, light training, not too strenuous pre-season, the players are just not equipped to play any other kind of game and I don't particularly blame them. It took Klopp a couple of years to get his players into good enough shape to play the kind of game Ole wants to play. He'll need time.
 

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I think that when Ole came in we were playing without expectations, so that allowed a certain level of freedom to our play. As soon as we beat PSG and the top 4 seemed like a realistic possibility everything went to pot because we've got a bunch of players who aren't mentally (and physically) capable of handling those situations and working as a team unit.

Also, our conditioning is awful, which has definitely not helped.
This has been the case for many many years. We just seem light years behind our rivals in so many aspects. Our players look weak, physically not fit enough and pick up injuries all the time. When was the last year we didn’t have an injury crisis month/2 months?

We seriously have to look at our fitness and conditioning coaches and physios. It’s symbolic of the wider problem, we need the best in class in all areas of the club and whilst other clubs have been striving for that, we have slept for years.
 

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are we really at the point where we’re asking “what went wrong” for a man who has been caretaker manager for half of his 6 month tenure; hasn’t actually signed a player; & has more points domestically than all but 2 teams that have set a record pace.

i have my doubts over OGS but can we support the manager for more than half a season please.
 

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and many are still refusing to admit it was a rash decision, going down the old he deserves a summer routine... yeah cos letting an obvious rash decision spend hundreds of millions sounds out of loyalty is much better idea then admitting you made a mistake....
I will be amazed if the board let Ole spend hundreds of millions this summer. They will already be having doubts about him.
 

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A mixture of really tough fixtures, fatigue because players couldn't keep up an intense style and some unlucky results all leading to a loss of confidence, maybe a different mindset as Ole was planning long term and not short term anymore. I wouldn't say it's all "gone so wrong", but I'm sure he's discovered a lot about the squad over this half season, and obviously changes have to be made. Hopefully with these changes over the summer, we can start to move forward and hopefully we'll see progress. This half season was always a weird situation to judge him on IMO, and I'll always say taking over half way through a season is basically a free pass.
 

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Fred | 2019/20 Performances
This has been the case for many many years. We just seem light years behind our rivals in so many aspects. Our players look weak, physically not fit enough and pick up injuries all the time. When was the last year we didn’t have an injury crisis month/2 months?

We seriously have to look at our fitness and conditioning coaches and physios. It’s symbolic of the wider problem, we need the best in class in all areas of the club and whilst other clubs have been striving for that, we have slept for years.
Molde are one of the teams that runs the most in the Norwegian league, and a number of their players are in a really good physical condition(by the leagues standard). So expect our remaining players next season to improve in this area.