I would put my mortgage on the fact you would NEVER call him a virus had you not heard this somewhere else (I wonder where...). Being a parrot of Mourinho here mate
Pogba apologises to fans after Cardiff
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The overrating of Fred and McTominay is something else.
Just coming from reading Sanchez's "apology" and Lingard's "we'll be ready next year" comments. Our players don't seem to grasp that actions speak louder than words.
Apologize all you want, say that you're "working hard" all day long but it means jack shit when that talk's not being shown on the pitch. Seems obvious enough that I shouldn't have to say it but apparently not for these players.
Apologize all you want, say that you're "working hard" all day long but it means jack shit when that talk's not being shown on the pitch. Seems obvious enough that I shouldn't have to say it but apparently not for these players.
Man said “McTominay and Fred dominated Barcelona” 
I know fans are furious and disappointing, but that abuse he got is embarrassing.
This was inevitable - the fans have backed our players even after mediocre performances.
But Pogba clearly is stupid - he mentioned Real in social media, his performances have been less than mediocre and he struts around at the end waiting for applause.
Fans don’t forget and I can’t see him stepping up in a manner that will improve the relationship or his performances for the club next season.
The relationship has soured, probably best all round if he moves on.
There are precedents for getting rid of a top player - Tommy Doc released Bestie, many fans were annoyed, but it proved to unchain the squad and gradually we improved.
But Pogba clearly is stupid - he mentioned Real in social media, his performances have been less than mediocre and he struts around at the end waiting for applause.
Fans don’t forget and I can’t see him stepping up in a manner that will improve the relationship or his performances for the club next season.
The relationship has soured, probably best all round if he moves on.
There are precedents for getting rid of a top player - Tommy Doc released Bestie, many fans were annoyed, but it proved to unchain the squad and gradually we improved.
Wish there was a thread for these apologies so I can have a gander, I don't have insta etc.
He didn't mention it in social media, he was asked about Real by the french and the spanish press, in press conferences. The only reason the relationship has soured is because a part of the fan base is incredibly immature which is ironic because they think that it's not them but the players.
People put a lot of emphasis on skillsets but if your best employee creates a toxic environment for the rest of your workers they absolutely have to go. There are too many reports around Pogba being a clown and causing drama for at least some of them not to be true.
There aren't a lot of reports though?
Words are cheap. We've seen this scenario plenty of times (players saying they are sorry) this season and nothing get's resolved on the pitch.
Turning in to spanish fans now. People that booes the likes of Ronaldo.. wonder if we can get anymore pathetic. I hope not, but we probably can.
Wonder how we would have done without him this season. Actually i don't really wonder.. i know it would have been far worse. But who cares.. clearly not the expert fans that can't even speak a sentence without using curse words.
Wonder how we would have done without him this season. Actually i don't really wonder.. i know it would have been far worse. But who cares.. clearly not the expert fans that can't even speak a sentence without using curse words.
There is just no explaination for being poor under Jose to be a squashbuckling top player to again be a very poor after the manager gets hired. Fans will turn on any player who is half hearted in his efforts but talks big at the same time on media and social media.
I'd love to hear Pogba's take on it, I presume if he leaves England he will have something to say about the scrutiny he's faced from the press and the likes of Souness
Too easy being a Man Utd player.
Earn obscene amounts a week compared to peers at other clubs, apologize to fans every couple of months whenever they get humiliated by another team. Not be up to the club's standards.
Anyways, regarding Pogba, I hope this clown leaves the club and we get back to having players who actually give a shit. Sick of seeing him jogging back and acting all moody and petulant whenever he loses the ball for the millionth time in the game.
Earn obscene amounts a week compared to peers at other clubs, apologize to fans every couple of months whenever they get humiliated by another team. Not be up to the club's standards.
Anyways, regarding Pogba, I hope this clown leaves the club and we get back to having players who actually give a shit. Sick of seeing him jogging back and acting all moody and petulant whenever he loses the ball for the millionth time in the game.
Good thing that he wasn't poor under José, he was arguably our best player for the first months of the season and the only clear drop off was after a long month injury in November, that's when Mourinho actually turned against him and it only lasted two weeks.
But there are. Journalists are liable if they write articles that are damaging towards an individuals character, they also risk exposing their sources. Believe me, if you listen to any footballing podcast featuring journalists that are well connected, they all mention issues at United revolving around Pogba. If you don't believe me, have a listen to the guardian's football podcast from last week, they talk at length about Pogba's negative influence over the likes of Lingard and Rashford, to the point where the host says "But do we KNOW this?" and the journalist says "YES" and laughs.
You may not want to admit it but he's an issue: Podcast if you want to listen, from the 20 minute mark is United
A pretty poor excuse.
He knew what he was doing when he spoke to the press that they would carry his message into social media for him. He may not have held a smoking IPhone but he planted the text. Like removing his shirt during the parade, he knew where the cameras were. Unfortunately, showboating like this after this season and his final 8 crap performances was always going to end badly.
So we are moving to blame the fans now ? That's incredible. I have seen it all really, teammates, managers, now fans.
Asked or no there were loads of generic quotes he could have said to close the door rather than open flirting with Madrid in press and saying it's dream to play for Zidane and Madrid but yeah I'm happy here at the moment but let's see the future. He knew what he was doing and which words he was saying. His drop in performance after these quotes was hardly a coincidence.
Could have said things like "I don't care about Madrid rumors, I'm focused on United and want to achieve things with them in the future" if he was that focused on staying here. Kante replied with similar quotes when asked.
That wasn't the first time he did flirted with other clubs here as well as he did that for Barca earlier in the season.
Fans aren't immature. They see their team finishing 6th with no trophies and losing to relegated team at home with other rivals dominating Europe and England while our best player plays half arsed and half hearted for over 2 months after open flirting with another club on international duty. The relationship soured because Pogba let the fans down on several occasions and they are getting tired of him.
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One gets abuse one doesn't. Both did the same so you proved my point.
It's never his fault is it? Managers, teammates, now the fans.
Probably talking about the new clothing line.
That's your many reports? Your example is two journalists saying that Pogba "leads" Lingard and Rashford, that's not a dressing room and that's not even an issue, funnily enough they don't even say anything bad about Pogba, they are making a tenuous link between his transfer fee and the power that it allegedly took away from the manager, to the players in general. And suggest that Pogba should be sacrificial lamb, in all honesty that's just dumb and it simply highlights the fact that the problem would be with management.
In this case, it should be no ones fault, nothing special happened and sensible people haven't lost their mind about a nothing answer to a loaded question. We don't have to live everything antagonistically.
Why are people surprised the star player gets more flak? Isn’t this how it’s always been? Young, Jones etc don’t get a pass, it’s because we know they’re shite and have no expectations of them. A whole lot more is expected of someone like Pogba than Lingard and Young
We've had this discussion before, in your eyes Pogba is perfect and can do no wrong, love is blind and all that...
Waste of everyone's time for us to continue this discussion if you're unwilling to accept he is an issue.
That fan is an idiot. Our best attacking player by far this season and half the season under Mourinho he didn’t even do anything yet still finished with most goals and assists.
...I get it’s frustrating when he’s inconsistent because it looks like he’s a lazy player but he still covers a ton of ground. And who the hell isnt inconsistent on our team?
It’s a shame because if he were English we’d all be praising him. For some reason our idiotic fans pounce on him but give English babies like Rashford a pass and chant his name all game long because well, he’s English. Gtfoutta here. I’ve never understood this stupid ritualistic practice, as if being English is somehow better or makes you exempt of critique
...I get it’s frustrating when he’s inconsistent because it looks like he’s a lazy player but he still covers a ton of ground. And who the hell isnt inconsistent on our team?
It’s a shame because if he were English we’d all be praising him. For some reason our idiotic fans pounce on him but give English babies like Rashford a pass and chant his name all game long because well, he’s English. Gtfoutta here. I’ve never understood this stupid ritualistic practice, as if being English is somehow better or makes you exempt of critique
I wouldn't trust Sanchez and Lingard to put some rubbish away, never mind performing on the pitch. Lads are like pepsiman but without pepsi, invisible.
Not really, I have done my criticizing of Pogba the player before he even step a foot back at United. I simply judge him on what he has done and what he was when we purchased him. Unlike you, I try to not make up things that barely make sense.
In the case of this podcast, Lingard and Pogba have been friends for 10 years but somehow this sport journalist links the influence to Pogba's transfer fee. It's a good thing that these people are in sport journalism.
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Crazy isn't. Bang average for me.
Ya, Smalling Jones lingard and rashford never get any abuse. Shaws winning poty wasn't met with insults about his weight and ability. What you're saying isn't true I'm afraid. What is true is that pogba spent more of the season walking than the 78 other central midfielders in the league this season. He also began our campaign with a non celebration and incredibly shit stirring interview after being given the captains armband. Pogba deserves every bit of criticism he gets.That fan is an idiot. Our best attacking player by far this season and half the season under Mourinho he didn’t even do anything yet still finished with most goals and assists.
...I get it’s frustrating when he’s inconsistent because it looks like he’s a lazy player but he still covers a ton of ground. And who the hell isnt inconsistent on our team?
It’s a shame because if he were English we’d all be praising him. For some reason our idiotic fans pounce on him but give English babies like Rashford a pass and chant his name all game long because well, he’s English. Gtfoutta here. I’ve never understood this stupid ritualistic practice, as if being English is somehow better or makes you exempt of critique
I think he was just saying goodbye to be honest
Been a recurring theme for the last 6 seasons.
In an ideal world, Madrid will pay up at the start of the transfer window. We get around £120 million for a player who doesn't want to be here and we use that money to re-invest in the squad.
But I think we can all guess what's going to happen. Madrid will spend all summer unsettling the player without even submitting a legitimate bid (just like they did with Ronaldo in 2008 and De Gea in 2015). This drags on throughout pre-season and disrupts the progress on our own incoming transfers, leaving our fans feeling despondent come the start of the 19/20 season.
But I think we can all guess what's going to happen. Madrid will spend all summer unsettling the player without even submitting a legitimate bid (just like they did with Ronaldo in 2008 and De Gea in 2015). This drags on throughout pre-season and disrupts the progress on our own incoming transfers, leaving our fans feeling despondent come the start of the 19/20 season.
Reading this thread is quite surreal. I didn’t realise Pogba defenders were this ridiculous. Where to start even? Firstly Pogba gets more stick than anyone because he is expected to be our best player. He’s our record signing. What is expected of Paul Pogba is not going to be the same as what is expected of Scott McTominay, that’s just how it works...
And also other players DO get criticised. Look at threads on Young and Lingard on here in particular. And I’m sure if you looked hard enough you’ll find videos of fans slagging off Young and Lingard.
Paul Pogbas attitude this season has been nothing short of a disgrace. He was given the captains armband at the start of the season in an attempt by Mourinho to get him acting more responsibly and his reaction was to sulk, give deliberately provocative interviews undermining the manager and putting in half arsed performances. Lo and behold he’s stripped of the captaincy. That’s not even mentioning his non committing interview when asked about Real Madrid, how easy would it have been to just say I’m happy at United and want to stay regardless of if he meant it. Or posting himself on IG smirking an hour after Mourinho gets sacked.
Do you think fans are going to forget this shit? How is any of this befitting of a United player let alone a captain.
All this fecking statistics talk, use your own eyes. Half of his goals were penalties and he effectively strolled through the first part and last part of the season. He still goes through games overplaying and over elaborating on the ball, when is he going to cut this out?
And the suggestions that Pogba is surrounded by shit? Ok even if he is, What does Fred being shit have to do with Paul Pogba dribbling past a player and then spinning around in a circle to try and dribble said player again, he’s a fecking cartoon .
Racism? Really? Half of our squad is black. We’ve had black players worse than Pogba in the past who haven’t been criticised anywhere near and it boils down to his questionable attitude on and off the pitch, nothing to do with race. Raheem Sterling has far more of a gripe to make with negative press with racist undertones than this clown of ours has.
And also other players DO get criticised. Look at threads on Young and Lingard on here in particular. And I’m sure if you looked hard enough you’ll find videos of fans slagging off Young and Lingard.
Paul Pogbas attitude this season has been nothing short of a disgrace. He was given the captains armband at the start of the season in an attempt by Mourinho to get him acting more responsibly and his reaction was to sulk, give deliberately provocative interviews undermining the manager and putting in half arsed performances. Lo and behold he’s stripped of the captaincy. That’s not even mentioning his non committing interview when asked about Real Madrid, how easy would it have been to just say I’m happy at United and want to stay regardless of if he meant it. Or posting himself on IG smirking an hour after Mourinho gets sacked.
Do you think fans are going to forget this shit? How is any of this befitting of a United player let alone a captain.
All this fecking statistics talk, use your own eyes. Half of his goals were penalties and he effectively strolled through the first part and last part of the season. He still goes through games overplaying and over elaborating on the ball, when is he going to cut this out?
And the suggestions that Pogba is surrounded by shit? Ok even if he is, What does Fred being shit have to do with Paul Pogba dribbling past a player and then spinning around in a circle to try and dribble said player again, he’s a fecking cartoon .
Racism? Really? Half of our squad is black. We’ve had black players worse than Pogba in the past who haven’t been criticised anywhere near and it boils down to his questionable attitude on and off the pitch, nothing to do with race. Raheem Sterling has far more of a gripe to make with negative press with racist undertones than this clown of ours has.
The first page is an embarrassment.
We have become a sorry lot and Pogba is our scapegoat. I hope he leaves, not for us but for him, because quite frankly we, as Everton light, don’t deserve his talents.
People don’t understand that him and our successes of the past are the reason we are still considered a big club. But I can tell you that in the upcoming years with Ole at the wheel we will only fall behind more. Until we become literal history and we will resort to posting and celebrating past successes like our clubs Instagram is doing constantly.
Love or hate Pogba he is the only world class part of the squad and the amount of stick he gets in comparison to the other dross is sickening and the chants and love Herrara got a mercenary who has done absolutely nothing at this club are a testament of that.
People don’t understand that him and our successes of the past are the reason we are still considered a big club. But I can tell you that in the upcoming years with Ole at the wheel we will only fall behind more. Until we become literal history and we will resort to posting and celebrating past successes like our clubs Instagram is doing constantly.
Love or hate Pogba he is the only world class part of the squad and the amount of stick he gets in comparison to the other dross is sickening and the chants and love Herrara got a mercenary who has done absolutely nothing at this club are a testament of that.
Go and read the rashford thread.That fan is an idiot. Our best attacking player by far this season and half the season under Mourinho he didn’t even do anything yet still finished with most goals and assists.
...I get it’s frustrating when he’s inconsistent because it looks like he’s a lazy player but he still covers a ton of ground. And who the hell isnt inconsistent on our team?
It’s a shame because if he were English we’d all be praising him. For some reason our idiotic fans pounce on him but give English babies like Rashford a pass and chant his name all game long because well, he’s English. Gtfoutta here. I’ve never understood this stupid ritualistic practice, as if being English is somehow better or makes you exempt of critique
And not to mention players like Cole, Yorke and McGrath were idolised by the Old Trafford crowd. It's such a lazy argument and so far from the truth too.
All of what you said was incorrect.
Not all of it If we're really honest.