Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion

[Fanatic 00237]

So your trying to tell me Pochettino wasn’t realistic? Who do you think you support Everton?

Responding only to bolded part: Poch turned down Real Madrid, who are not Everton either. Not saying he might not be ready to move now, only responding to the idea that we MUST be able to attract him because we are Manchester United.

God help us. I just hope the stars are inlined that if this goes badly Tunchel might be out of a job.

Tuchel won one cup for Dortmund in two seasons there and won less trophies at PSG this season than they did previously, without improving on their CL run. Not sure he will be the one everyone will get behind if he has a difficult start.

 

[Lash]

You said Poch is unrealistic for no reasons except it makes your argument crap. I don’t play FM your not talking to your Fortnight mates.

He’s not realistic, as he wouldn’t have joined midway through the season. We’d have to wait until the end of the season and now he has spurs in the CL final and we’d most likely still be in 6th. He has a long contract and if he gets assurances on investment, he would not leave Spurs to come to this shit show.

 

[Mainoldo]

What’s so great about Tuchel?
I swear, this guy is the new Bielsa, so overwhelmingly overrated.

Overrated? When’s the last time we’ve seen Leeds close to a playoff final?

Tunchel plays great football for one and has a persona to deal with big players.

Doesn’t call players Mbappy and was quick to look at Rio like a madman when he compared him to R9.

 

[sparx99]

Have I missed something where Poch has come out and said he wouldn't join us? Or have United come out and said 'we tried for Poch but he wasn't interested'? Cos all I can remember in recent weeks is the interview that Poch gave literally 2 days away when he was publicly saying he may move on if Spurs won't match his ambition...

Poch did say he turned Real Madrid down last summer after signing his new deal. It may well be the case that we sounded him out and he said no. In all likelihood, it seems like he wanted to see Spurs into their new ground and having that happen late in the season he may want one more crack at it for the full year.

If Ole doesn't work out this year we can go all out for Pochettino next summer.

 

[BlueHaze]

Have I missed something where Poch has come out and said he wouldn't join us? Or have United come out and said 'we tried for Poch but he wasn't interested'? Cos all I can remember in recent weeks is the interview that Poch gave literally 2 days away when he was publicly saying he may move on if Spurs won't match his ambition...

If we wanted him you don't think Ed will have tried paying out his £40m contract before giving Ole the permanent role? And let's say even now hypothetically we sack Ole and Poch leaves Tottenham you don't think other clubs in better positions than ourselves will be in for him?

Poch is a very good manager in my eyes but both at Southampton and Tottenham he worked closely with people who are highly competent at what they do unlike Ed. I find it hard to believe out of all the places he could go to he would chose to come here to work with Ed and play EL..

 

[Mainoldo]

He’s not realistic, as he wouldn’t have joined midway through the season. We’d have to wait until the end of the season and now he has spurs in the CL final and we’d most likely still be in 6th. He has a long contract and if he gets assurances on investment, he would not leave Spurs to come to this shit show.

-We wasn’t trying to get him midway through a season

-if we didn’t hire Ole we wouldn’t be waiting until the end of the season regardless

-We are MANCHESTER UNITED. Finishing 6th is not going to make a manager like Poch turn us down. Did Christiano Ronaldo turn down an inferior Real Madrid? Ronaldinho Barcelona, even Klopp was he turning down 8th place Liverpool. Have some standards man. Get some balls (figuratively speaking you might be a lady) about the club you support.

 

[Mainoldo]

If we wanted him you don't think Ed will have tried paying out his £40m contract before giving Ole the permanent role? And let's say even now hypothetically we sack Ole and Poch leaves Tottenham you don't think other clubs in better positions than ourselves will be in for him?

Poch is a very good manager in my eyes but both at Southampton and Tottenham he worked closely with people who are highly competent at what they do unlike Ed. I find it hard to believe out of all the places he could go to he would chose to come here to work with Ed and play EL..

Other clubs like who? Spurs as good as he’s made them can only go so far! Eventually he will leave. He’s not going to get a chance to manager a club this size that let’s face it gives managers free reign to do what the hell they like.

 

[Di Maria's angel]

I am asking, who is a realistic option that people will be satisfied with and actually get behind?
There are lots of managers in 'theory' that are better then Ole.

Poch, Nuno, Tuchel, Erik Ten Hag, Pellegrini, Allegri, Conte.

 

[Enigma_87]

Overrated? When’s the last time we’ve seen Leeds close to a playoff final?

Tunchel plays great football for one and has a persona to deal with big players.

Doesn’t call players Mbappy and was quick to look at Rio like a madman when he compared him to R9.

Funny thing is people call those who don't believe in Ole's project(whatever that is) - fickle. Yet they are ready to let him do the rebuild of one of Europe's elite along with hundreds of millions on the base of ... 10-15 matches.

And get called fickle again on the base of... you guessed it 10-15 matches of pure dross.

 

[Rusholme Ruffian]

Not being able to answer a simple question and needing to twist it to the answer you want to give is worse

Well no, I don't think it is worse actually. But given that the last few pages of this thread are full of names of managers that people would choose ahead of OGS I think it is you that is twisting things.

Poch did say he turned Real Madrid down last summer after signing his new deal. It may well be the case that we sounded him out and he said no. In all likelihood, it seems like he wanted to see Spurs into their new ground and having that happen late in the season he may want one more crack at it for the full year.

If Ole doesn't work out this year we can go all out for Pochettino next summer.

That was last summer though? Things change quickly in football, and bowing out once you've achieved everything you can in a job is often the best way to leave.

If we wanted him you don't think Ed will have tried paying out his £40m contract before giving Ole the permanent role? And let's say even now hypothetically we sack Ole and Poch leaves Tottenham you don't think other clubs in better positions than ourselves will be in for him?

Poch is a very good manager in my eyes but both at Southampton and Tottenham he worked closely with people who are highly competent at what they do unlike Ed. I find it hard to believe out of all the places he could go to he would chose to come here to work with Ed and play EL..

Firstly, I don't trust Ed with anything. Secondly, even if he had tried a few months ago, who's to say that the answer would be the same now? Did you read Poch's comments over the weekend?

Thirdly, I agree that there would be other clubs in for him - but not many that could offer him the budget and pay package that we could here. Given that Madrid and Barca are out of the question for him, and the top 2 clubs in this country are not looking for managers I would say that leaves us, Bayern and Juve as a genuine step up from what he has at Spurs. I obviously caveat that with acknowledging that we are a shit show at the moment - the club would have to sell it to him as an opportunity to rebuild the club in his own image - and be prepared to put a massive budget behind him. If we did that it would surely be a tempting offer for any manager?

 

[Fanatic 00237]

Could Ole's great start be due to the players getting some confidence back and just putting a pressure free performance under a new manager whoever he was? Why it has to be on Ole, yet after things actually mattered and he failed spectacularly we have to dish out on the same players that got him the job and yet he will be off the hook?.

The point I was making here was about people getting behind Ole as opposed to Conte, wasn't responding to who is to blame for the poor run of results following his great start (although if you ask me I think it was due to a combination of factors: players being gassed out physically due to not being prepared for his high tempo style having been previously managed by Mourinho, a number of injuries to key players which killed our momentum, and also Ole giving too much trust to certain players who didn't deserve it, hope he has learnt his lesson).

Yeah with someone like ten Hag you have to be patient, but the biggest point and draw should be to create that structure first. I'd welcome him, along with a structure like that. It's not unrealistic either. VDS and Overmars didn't create it decades ago it will only need few years.

Conte is an excellent manager, despite many complaining about his style.

PS: We need a manager but we moreso need the structure. Backing up Ole won't get us that structure, because it will be the same old shite we have witnessed so far. Neither the supposed project with Carrick and Phelan.

Fair enough, I agree with all your points about ten Hag and Conte but I have my reservations for each. United and ten Hag might not be ready for each other and Conte with his style might quickly have everyone complaining or becoming restless if results are still inconsistent by November.

I agree with your P.S. as well although I still think Ole is our best gamble right now. If we create a technical director position with Fletcher at the helm as is being rumoured, it will be another step in the right direction.

 

[John Blund]

This forum. "Rather have Poch". Since Ole signed as the permanent manager for us, we've taken two points less than Spurs the last 8 games. Same goes for Arsenal. Poch didn't get funds last summer, but he's been in the club long enough to know his players and building his squad. Emery at Arsenal got two transfer windows, and still, he's "shit" like Ole. Would a win in the last game against Cardiff in a near meaningless game, change everything for you people in #OleOut-land? Or is Poch also a poor manager for a piss-poor team?

Then we have the crowd slamming Ole for being honest about next season and silverware. We're not even close to City and Liverpool. We can't buy three players and expect 30 more points next season. Mourinho spent +£400M on players he didn't trust the 3 seasons he had.

 

[Catt]

According to reports he wasn't even the cheap option. We are in shambles.

What reports?

 

[Enigma_87]

The point I was making here was about people getting behind Ole as opposed to Conte, wasn't responding to who is to blame for the poor run of results following his great start (although if you ask me I think it was due to a combination of factors: players being gassed out physically due to not being prepared for his high tempo style having been previously managed by Mourinho, a number of injuries to key players which killed our momentum, and also Ole giving too much trust to certain players who didn't deserve it, hope he has learnt his lesson).

I think you won't have issue with backing a manager with credible resume, despite a style that isn't that appealing which Conte might offer. We did back Jose at the start and he is one of the managers who grinds out results. To me Ole changed nothing, it's a bit Tata Martino type of manager - same with him or without him, might have less wins during the run and more during the closing time - the end result - average.

Fair enough, I agree with all your points about ten Hag and Conte but I have my reservations for each. United and ten Hag might not be ready for each other and Conte with his style might quickly have everyone complaining or becoming restless if results are still inconsistent by November.

I agree with your P.S. as well although I still think Ole is our best gamble right now. If we create a technical director position with Fletcher at the helm as is being rumoured, it will be another step in the right direction.

The biggest difference in our opinions mate is the type of structure we want I guess

You seem to suggest Ole, Fletcher, Carrick, Phelan type - which I'm vehemently against.

You don't need nice guys and old mates to create winning structure and is exactly the opposite of what we're doing now. We had Fergie and Gill as a structure for decades. Nobody else. They ran the club from top to bottom. When they both went we were left with nothing.

People get overly sentimental and not practical. This is business and you have to be ruthless to run it and be successful at it.

Fans love Ole but not due to his managerial qualities, I also have nothing against him personally. He should be at the club with some role, but not this one. We're been run by nepotism at its finest.

 

[sunama]

Fair enough. Let's see how things pan out but I love OGS. Just wondering if he will be ruthless enough in ousting these silly, egoistic, lazy bunch of twats we call players.

He won't be allowed.
Jose tried and Woodie said, "no". The issue here is money - players are expensive assets, while the manager is expendable.

 

[starman]

Well no, I don't think it is worse actually. But given that the last few pages of this thread are full of names of managers that people would choose ahead of OGS I think it is you that is twisting things.

You keep trying to turn a question that explicitly says Poch can not be one of the answers, into a question where Poch is the answer.

All you have done is list managers that are more experienced then Ole, never actually put your neck out on a option bar Poch..

And only two people having genuinely put forward names they are happy with. The rest have just done the same and pointlessly listed managers more experienced then Ole, not people who they would like to manage the club...

 

[Enigma_87]

This forum. "Rather have Poch". Since Ole signed as the permanent manager for us, we've taken two points less than Spurs the last 8 games. Same goes for Arsenal. Poch didn't get funds last summer, but he's been in the club long enough to know his players and building his squad. Emery at Arsenal got two transfer windows, and still, he's "shit" like Ole. Would a win in the last game against Cardiff in a near meaningless game, change everything for you people in #OleOut-land? Or is Poch also a poor manager for a piss-poor team?

Then we have the crowd slamming Ole for being honest about next season and silverware. We're not even close to City and Liverpool. We can't buy three players and expect 30 more points next season. Mourinho spent +£400M on players he didn't trust the 3 seasons he had.

Again you keep comparing Ole to managers that have been around top level much longer than Ole.

What has Ole done to deserve 3 year contract option at one of the biggest clubs? You are handing out 3 years contracts to nobodies, based on handful of games, yet cry about our players and Sanchez getting one? Get a fecking grip.

 

[sunama]

Being given extensions doesn't mean they'll be starting matches.
I imagine Smalling will, as much as I don't think he should.
Young and Jones though? Nah I can't see it, provided we actually use the summer wisely.

Young is not only an automatic starter, but also the captain.
Jones, Smalling and Lindelof are our first team starting CBs. Whichever are not injured will almost certainly play. And yes, that includes Jones. When fit, he plays.

 

[manUfan2005]

He won't be allowed.
Jose tried and Woodie said, "no". The issue here is money - players are expensive assets, while the manager is expendable.

Even if he can't get rid of players like Jones or Lingard this summer, Ole needs to get new players who will replace them permanently in the starting XI.

 

[Rusholme Ruffian]

You keep trying to turn a question that explicitly says Poch can not be one of the answers, into a question where Poch is the answer.

Why can't Poch be one of the answers?!

All you have done is list managers that are more experienced then Ole, never actually put your neck out on a option bar Poch..

And only two people having genuinely put forward names they are happy with. The rest have just done the same and pointless listed managers more experienced then Ole, not people who they would like to manage the club...

I've clearly said to you that there are loads of managers that I'd be happier with then OGS. At least a couple of them in the PL alone.

As you're so keen on questions. If I had asked you to come up with a list of 20 possible replacements for Mourinho back in November 2018 would OGS have been amongst them?

 

[Fanatic 00237]

Other clubs like who? Spurs as good as he’s made them can only go so far! Eventually he will leave. He’s not going to get a chance to manager a club this size that let’s face it gives managers free reign to do what the hell they like.

The picture at Bayern, Juve and Barça isn't all that clear yet.

Poch, Nuno, Tuchel, Erik Ten Hag, Pellegrini, Allegri, Conte.

Poch - Not sure yet, really. See the long exchanges above, we can't be sure he's a realistic option as of now.
Nuno - Managing United isn't the same job as managing your average club. He might find the step up too huge.
Tuchel - Is he a realistic target right now?
Ten Hag - Not ready for United and probably United not ready for him either, the structure in place at Ajax was tailored for him, not sure about putting him in the current United set up.
Pellegrini - You really sure United fans would get behind him as manager? Imagine the scenes if results are still inconsistent by November, do you think anyone will be patient with him?
Allegri - Same as Pellegrini.
Conte - Same as Allegri.

Ole has for him his great start when he came in which got the fans behind him and won over the inital sceptics and his status as club legend which would buy him some time if the start to next season is shaky. Admittedly he might have used up most of his jokers already with the poor run at the end of this season.

 

[Moriarty]

What manager do you want to come in here that could work closely with Ed and make us title challengers?

One could ask the same question about Perez, yet Real has no problem hiring the best. As for working with Woodward, well, football is like any other industry. Word gets round about bad or incompetent employers. I'm sure there would be some who'd baulk at working with him because of the overwhelming commercial demands. Van Gaal alludes to this, and so does Klopp. It's not a case of who I want to come in and make us challengers as it isn't black and white. And besides, I haven't said I want Ole sacked. I just think he was hired without a great deal of forethought.

 

[Enigma_87]

The picture at Bayern, Juve and Barça isn't all that clear yet.



Poch - Not sure yet, really. See the long exchanges above, we can't be sure he's a realistic option as of now.
Nuno - Managing United isn't the same job as managing your average club. He might find the step up too huge.
Tuchel - Is he a realistic target right now?
Ten Hag - Not ready for United and probably United not ready for him either, the structure in place at Ajax was tailored for him, not sure about putting him in the current United set up.
Pellegrini - You really sure United fans would get behind him as manager? Imagine the scenes if results are still inconsistent by November, do you think anyone will be patient with him?
Allegri - Same as Pellegrini.
Conte - Same as Allegri.

Ole has for him his great start when he came in which got the fans behind him and won over the inital sceptics and his status as club legend which would buy him some time if the start to next season is shaky. Admittedly he might have used up most of his jokers already with the poor run at the end of this season.

Oh, mate...So let me get it straight - Nuno, Ten Hag aren't ready for United but someone who has exactly 29 games at top level is?

Association club coefficients
Country Clubs Bonus Points Average
36

Latvia 0/4 0.000 5.500 1.375
37

Estonia 0/4 0.000 5.500 1.375
38

Norway 0/4 0.000 5.500 1.375
39

North Macedonia 0/4 0.000 5.000 1.250
40

Malta 0/4 0.000 5.000 1.250
Last updated: 19/06/2018 10:55 CET

This is where Norway ranks in Europe right now. Just above North Macedonia and Malta and below Latvia and Estonia.

This is reality...

 

[Catt]

Yup and you are obviously another fan with one functioning brain cell that can only compute the trail thought:
"Sack Ole, Sign Poch" We Manchester United"
Sack Ole, Sign Poch" We Manchester United..."

Same applies to you

Calm down.

 

[BlueHaze]

One could ask the same question about Perez, yet Real has no problem hiring the best. As for working with Woodward, well, football is like any other industry. Word gets round about bad or incompetent employers. I'm sure there would be some who'd baulk at working with him because of the overwhelming commercial demands. Van Gaal alludes to this, and so does Klopp. It's not a case of who I want to come in and make us challengers as it isn't black and white. And besides, I haven't said I want Ole sacked. I just think he was hired without a great deal of forethought.

So basically we feel the exact same way except I disagree with the real comparison.

What do I say now?

 

[StrettyEnder07]

No problem. I'll pull your posts in October and November when we see the results of your support.

I hope you don't complain after another season is lost - I mean this is what you want to give Ole a shot isn't it?

That it is, as said in another thread, if were sat here this time next year with 7-9 of the deadwood gone, purchased 4-5 young exciting quick hungry players maybe with one big leader. We have finished in the top 4 comfortably and hopefully made a significant improvement on the 32 points were behind the top two.

Scoring far more freely and hopefully do well in/win a cup, I will take that.

Going by your posts I'm assuming nothing other than winning the league is the minimum, certainly how you have been coming across this affy.

 

[Mainoldo]

The picture at Bayern, Juve and Barça isn't all that clear yet.



Poch - Not sure yet, really. See the long exchanges above, we can't be sure he's a realistic option as of now.
Nuno - Managing United isn't the same job as managing your average club. He might find the step up too huge.
Tuchel - Is he a realistic target right now?
Ten Hag - Not ready for United and probably United not ready for him either, the structure in place at Ajax was tailored for him, not sure about putting him in the current United set up.
Pellegrini - You really sure United fans would get behind him as manager? Imagine the scenes if results are still inconsistent by November, do you think anyone will be patient with him?
Allegri - Same as Pellegrini.
Conte - Same as Allegri.

Ole has for him his great start when he came in which got the fans behind him and won over the inital sceptics and his status as club legend which would buy him some time if the start to next season is shaky. Admittedly he might have used up most of his jokers already with the poor run at the end of this season.

All those guys are better equipt to manage us better than Ole. But I can agree I would only hire Poch and Tunchel. I like Rose but he’s got a new job apparently.

 

[Enigma_87]

That it is, as said in another thread, if were sat here this time next year with 7-9 of the deadwood gone, purchased 4-5 young exciting quick hungry players maybe with one big leader. We have finished in the top 4 comfortably and hopefully made a significant improvement on the 32 points were behind the top two.

Scoring far more freely and hopefully do well in/win a cup, I will take that.

Going by your posts I'm assuming nothing other than winning the league is the minimum, certainly how you have been coming across this affy.

You really believe this will happen under Ole?

Seriously?

 

[starman]

Why can't Poch be one of the answers?!


I've clearly said to you that there are loads of managers that I'd be happier with then OGS. At least a couple of them in the PL alone.

As you're so keen on questions. If I had asked you to come up with a list of 20 possible replacements for Mourinho back in November 2018 would OGS have been amongst them?

Why can't God be the answer to the theory of evolution...
Poch is explicitly stated in the hypothesis of the question as not a answer being searched for

As a caretaker, yes, not as a permanent manager after a few months

 

[Fanatic 00237]

The biggest difference in our opinions mate is the type of structure we want I guess

You seem to suggest Ole, Fletcher, Carrick, Phelan type - which I'm vehemently against.

You don't need nice guys and old mates to create winning structure and is exactly the opposite of what we're doing now. We had Fergie and Gill as a structure for decades. Nobody else. They ran the club from top to bottom. When they both went we were left with nothing.

People get overly sentimental and not practical. This is business and you have to be ruthless to run it and be successful at it.

Fans love Ole but not due to his managerial qualities, I also have nothing against him personally. He should be at the club with some role, but not this one. We're been run by nepotism at its finest.

Well, I guess we can agree to disagree then

Maybe I'm the sentimental type but those guys represent the United I fell in love with and I'm praying that (if Ed makes it happen) they succeed to build back United from our current predicament. The job would be a tough one, for sure, they don't have a track record to speak for them, certainly, but I'm hoping that thanks to their deep knowledge of the environment it will work out for the best for us all eventually.

Or maybe I'm just tired of us bringing in mercenaries for whom United is just another job (and who haven't even done such a good job for us) and I would rather prefer we have people managing the football side of the club to have a special connection to the institution. We don't even know which solution will work, we have tried other options, let's try this too and see. I don't know man, it's desperate times!

 

[lysglimt]

He won't be allowed.
Jose tried and Woodie said, "no". The issue here is money - players are expensive assets, while the manager is expendable.

Jose was given a lot of Money - which he wasted.

 

[romufc]

I have posted before in respects to Poch. I agree Poch would have been a better fit but we have Ole as a manager now - and the last few games I didn't expect anything more from players who have nothing to play for and some of them know they will not be here next season.

give him a pre season at least. And I have seen quite a few people mention his style - he tried his high pressing for the first few games and it was evident when we were winning the ball high up and attacking in transition. However; the players legs went during PSG and Livrerpool game - that's when it all went downhill when we didnt have the players to come in and replace the legs. Fans are so fickle it is unbelievable.

 

[starman]

Calm down.

Great input. Go away

 

[Amadaeus]

Surprised the mods haven’t put up a poll yet for this thread. It will be interesting to see where the fans on Redcafe stands on this.

I have been consistent and I want him out immediately. He seems to have the right vision for the club, but not the tactical acumen or emotional intelligence to be our manager. Even if he somehow corrects ship, his philosophy is not good enough to get us back on top. Under Ole, we will be playing counterattacking football and we will be outplayed consistently by teams who has a better philosophy. We could win against them and find similar success Wolves did against top teams due to this approach, but I can’t see it as a solid foundation to get us back where we have to be.

I m fine if Ole get moved to a different role in the club, but as the manager we need to do better.

 

[Fanatic 00237]

All those guys are better equipt to manage us better than Ole. But I can agree I would only hire Poch and Tunchel. I like Rose but he’s got a new job apparently.

Both of whom aren't quite realistic as of today.

 

[lysglimt]

Oh, mate...So let me get it straight - Nuno, Ten Hag aren't ready for United but someone who has exactly 29 games at top level is?

Association club coefficients
Country Clubs Bonus Points Average
36

Latvia 0/4 0.000 5.500 1.375
37

Estonia 0/4 0.000 5.500 1.375
38

Norway 0/4 0.000 5.500 1.375
39

North Macedonia 0/4 0.000 5.000 1.250
40

Malta 0/4 0.000 5.000 1.250
Last updated: 19/06/2018 10:55 CET

This is where Norway ranks in Europe right now. Just above North Macedonia and Malta and below Latvia and Estonia.

This is reality...

Wow - you can't even get that right

 

[Mainoldo]

Both of whom aren't quite realistic as of today.

Both are very realistic! Poch will more than likely leave even if he doesn’t win Champs league and PSG are not very stable with managers at all. He’s had an awful end to the season.

 

[dannyrhinos89]

Why am I reading that he’s keeping on Carrick and McKenna as his back room staff. They look like death on the sidelines, no passion, no emotion whatsoever. They obviously don’t offer anything in training or on match days so GET RID.

Sick of the “fergie boys” sticking around like a bad smell.

 

[Fanatic 00237]

Oh, mate...So let me get it straight - Nuno, Ten Hag aren't ready for United but someone who has exactly 29 games at top level is?

Association club coefficients
Country Clubs Bonus Points Average
36

Latvia 0/4 0.000 5.500 1.375
37

Estonia 0/4 0.000 5.500 1.375
38

Norway 0/4 0.000 5.500 1.375
39

North Macedonia 0/4 0.000 5.000 1.250
40

Malta 0/4 0.000 5.000 1.250
Last updated: 19/06/2018 10:55 CET

This is where Norway ranks in Europe right now. Just above North Macedonia and Malta and below Latvia and Estonia.

This is reality...

Like I've been saying, Pep and Zidane had no right to be given their first top jobs by this logic but they knew the environment inside out. That's the same same logic I'm applying for Ole. I admit it's a gamble, it might work out, it might not, we can't tell. But I'm okay with us taking this gamble.

 

[Enigma_87]

Well, I guess we can agree to disagree then

Maybe I'm the sentimental type but those guys represent the United I fell in love with and I'm praying that (if Ed makes it happen) they succeed to build back United from our current predicament. The job would be a tough one, for sure, they don't have a track record to speak for them, certainly, but I'm hoping that thanks to their deep knowledge of the environment it will work out for the best for us all eventually.

Or maybe I'm just tired of us bringing in mercenaries for whom United is just another job (and who haven't even done such a good job for us) and I would rather prefer we have people managing the football side of the club to have a special connection to the institution. We don't even know which solution will work, we have tried other options, let's try this too and see. I don't know man, it's desperate times!

Yeah, we can agree to disagree! I appreciate your input and opinion and can fully understand where you are coming from.

Indeed best case scenario is to breed our own staff/players who value all that is United historically. But to me I'd always get the more qualified person for the job, not your nephew who knows it all about the family.