Paulo Dybala

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Very talented player. His game got damaged this year by Juve's system being built around Ronaldo. Has been electric for much of the past 2-3 years.

We would do well to bring him in.
 

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We had so many disappointing big name signings the last few years which all turned out dogshit or here for the money people like Dybala are already 0-1 down in my books even before he played a single match.
 

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i think there are pros and cons to this pickle that is dybala:

Pros
could provide a much needed motivation boost to Pogba
would provide a much needed dynamic to the united attack
if the media is right we can get him rather cheap considering the current transfer market
he's only 25

Cons
i don't believe that he is the right type of player as we need a RW not a CF/ST
he could get bullied around in the prem
someone will be playing out of position (or we're changing formation)

if you have other opinions or pointers that i haven't put in they will be welcome.
 

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If we're going to splurge close to 100 mil on a single attacker then surely Dybala is likelier to be a success for us than the likes of Felix or Sancho?

Admittedly I've only seen the odd match or two (and some highlights) of Felix and Sancho but it's much greater risk to sign a teenager with just a season behind them than a still-young Dybala who has seasons of work.

The pressure on Felix or Sancho to be an immediate saviour here will be huge whilst if Dybala is leaving a much better Juve team to join us to be the main-man then he's probably going to thrive on it.

I'd rather buy a younger right-back and centre-mid, and spend big on a ready-made attacker and centre-back.

I'm also partial to a tenacious little Argie.

What does everyone else think?
 

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If we're going to splurge close to 100 mil on a single attacker then surely Dybala is likelier to be a success for us than the likes of Felix or Sancho?

Admittedly I've only seen the odd match or two (and some highlights) of Felix and Sancho but it's much greater risk to sign a teenager with just a season behind them than a still-young Dybala who has seasons of work.

The pressure on Felix or Sancho to be an immediate saviour here will be huge whilst if Dybala is leaving a much better Juve team to join us to be the main-man then he's probably going to thrive on it.

I'd rather buy a younger right-back and centre-mid, and spend big on a ready-made attacker and centre-back.

I'm also partial to a tenacious little Argie.

What does everyone else think?
It will be more costly than the other two potentially but I think Dybala is a good move for all parties.

If Martial doesn't get his shit together next season we could always sell him and go for Sancho or Felix next summer anyway.

We need better forwards and Dybala fits that mould, could also be enough to convince the likes of Pogba to stay.
 

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Quality player but how would he fit here? Unless i'm mistaken he's better as a 10 and not a proper Winger, We already have toooo many of those false wingers. :rolleyes:
 

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Quality player but how would he fit here? Unless i'm mistaken he's better as a 10 and not a proper Winger, We already have toooo many of those false wingers. :rolleyes:
If we sign them then don't think it will be as winger. He will either play as 10 or 9 (like Lingard played under Ole)
 

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With Griezmann now going, he's got A Madrid written all over him.
 

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If we sign them then don't think it will be as winger. He will either play as 10 or 9 (like Lingard played under Ole)
Yep, either as a no.10, part of strike duo, or as a false 9. We will be our best choice to start at the head of a 433 too as I think he will be the best at holding up the ball in that role among our current options.
 

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If we sign them then don't think it will be as winger. He will either play as 10 or 9 (like Lingard played under Ole)
Thanks.

If we do manage to sign him somehow, the jump in quality from Lingard :drool:.
 

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For the umpteenth time, he's not a number 10.
Ronaldo needs a Benzema or a Mandzukic to perform and Dybala isn't one. That's basically bthe story of his season.
In out current set up, we won't sign a better player for that false 9 role. We just won't.
 

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The same was said about Di Maria, look how that one turned out. Absolutely no guarantee's he'd be our best player whatsoever
Think everyone forgets how electric Di Maria was for the first 5-10 games he played. But then all the situations started happening and it wasn't the same and he left, nightmare.

Not backing him cos he should've played no matter what, anyway I don't see this happening to Dybala, he'd be our top goalscorer next season. Imagine him and Pogba together.
 

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Unless Ole is planning to change our current formation I just don't see how Dybala fits in to it. This to me is bringing in a name over and above a coherent long term strategy. Ole seems to prefer 4-3-3 if that's the case, Dybala seem to excel as a 10, he cant play wide and isnt a no.9. So I don't see how he fits in, we have Mata as well. I would agree Dybala is a big upgrade on Mata but it looks like he is staying put and having both of them makes no sense.
 

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How is his attitude? Thats all I care about, don't want another Di Maria or Pogba in this side.
 

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Already good player just about to enter his prime years. No brainer really. Also shows our intent if we buy him. Could persuade other players to join.
 

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It's funny that some people don't want him. He'd be our best player.
Been scarred and burnt so many times with star players coming in and underperforming. Di Maria, Schweinsteiger, Sanchez, Lukaku ("star" to an extent). Pogba has been decent though, despite what the naysayers think.
 

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How is his attitude? Thats all I care about, don't want another Di Maria or Pogba in this side.
Seems fine, as long as he plays a central attacking position, he wont kick up a fuss. He would expect title challenges soon though, not sure we can offer that. Buying Dybala only would work if we improve the team as well, bringing him in with another 2-3 players wont do much. We need to fix our right wing, fullback, CB and midfield issues and bring him in as the cherry on top IMO. He would improve us though and maybe be the catalyst for bringing us back to the top, but only in a functioning team. Then he also has the platform to win us games by himself, as well as improving the team.
 

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Dybala to leave his guaranteed trophy a season club with guaranteed CL for the worst United side for many a year, to play Europa and hope the likes of a Wolves and Watford don’t overtake us. Bet he is chomping at the bit. No way this happens unless he is purely money driven like Sanchez.
 

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Unless Ole is planning to change our current formation I just don't see how Dybala fits in to it. This to me is bringing in a name over and above a coherent long term strategy. Ole seems to prefer 4-3-3 if that's the case, Dybala seem to excel as a 10, he cant play wide and isnt a no.9. So I don't see how he fits in, we have Mata as well. I would agree Dybala is a big upgrade on Mata but it looks like he is staying put and having both of them makes no sense.
He would play the false 9 in our 4-3-3 if that’s what we persist with next season. He isn’t a midfielder. He’s a striker or a second striker like Rooney.

He would basically replace Lingard and/or push Rashford wide or to the bench.

Amazes me that people are wondering how he will fit in when we don’t have one striker of his quality on the books.
 

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Dybala to leave his guaranteed trophy a season club with guaranteed CL for the worst United side for many a year, to play Europa and hope the likes of a Wolves and Watford don’t overtake us. Bet he is chomping at the bit. No way this happens unless he is purely money driven like Sanchez.
Or he has faith in his ability and sees himself of being capable of contributing to the project. Plus a bit of money.

Where else is he going to go?
 

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Dybala to leave his guaranteed trophy a season club with guaranteed CL for the worst United side for many a year, to play Europa and hope the likes of a Wolves and Watford don’t overtake us. Bet he is chomping at the bit. No way this happens unless he is purely money driven like Sanchez.
Do you really think Sanchez only came here for money? He blows but he at least tries unlike some caf golden boys in the squad. No players should want to come here currently. If we aren't offering more money, we'll literally fall behind Wolves by default because our "academy products" like Rashford and Lingard fail to take the next steps.
 

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Or he has faith in his ability and sees himself of being capable of contributing to the project. Plus a bit of money.

Where else is he going to go?
Bayern or Atletico are a possibility. Bayern are looking for some offensive spark and star quality, while Atletico a replacement for Griezmann.
 

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With Griezmann now going, he's got A Madrid written all over him.
This. Agent linking him to us to get a better deal with Atletico Madrid. He's born to play for them. In a country that speaks his language, for a coach from his country, who will be freshening things up with Greizmann, Diego Costa and Rodri so far leaving.

We've no interest in him whatsoever
 

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If we are going to play him as a false 9, it would be a good signing.
 

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I think he'll be excellent playing the sort of role that Firmino does at Liverpool, though if we played him as false 9 we also need both our winger to score more goals.
Well if we still used Rashford or Martial as a LF we can get goals out of them. I am not confident in either being a traditional number 9. We do need help from the fullbacks and need more width in general. We have seen how important Robertson and TAA have been for Liverpool.
 

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Well if we still used Rashford or Martial as a LF we can get goals out of them. I am not confident in either being a traditional number 9. We do need help from the fullbacks and need more width in general. We have seen how important Robertson and TAA have been for Liverpool.
Agree with this, I remember a few years back that there was a thread saying how important attacking fullbacks are for modern football. I don't remember in the last 10 years any top team with fullbacks as poor as ours.
 

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Agree with this, I remember a few years back that there was a thread saying how important attacking fullbacks are for modern football. I don't remember in the last 10 years any top team with fullbacks as poor as ours.
Yeah. While Shaw is ok, he is nowhere near good enough going forward, especially when no one else offers us anything in wide positions. It hinders the team massively.