Moussa Dembele
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Potential to finish 6th again.
Saw a compilation. Seems a useful player with better ability on the ball than Lukaku but there were so many under-hit/misplaced passes.
Not better than Lukaku. I imagine this is Ole just wanting someone who would happy to sit on the bench for his little Rashy.
To be fair, there's only just over 2 years in age difference between Rashford, Dembele and Martial. Dembele is only a year and a few months older than Rashford.
They're all 5 years away from their peak at least. It'd be cool to watch them grow together. That is assuming they actually develop of course.
They're all 5 years away from their peak at least. It'd be cool to watch them grow together. That is assuming they actually develop of course.
Would be very disappointing if he is Lukaku's replacement as he would be a downgrade IMO. I am dreading the thought of relying on Dembele, Rashford and Martial to score goals for us next season, we would struggle to score 40 in the league.
Finishing 6th with comedy Lukaku step overs, control and pointing or just finishing 6th....Actually, don't want him at least we get a laugh currently.
Overall play will be better with him in the team, well any striker who can pass,control the ball, make decent runs, run with the ball etc but Goals might be harder to come as Mark Henry is a better finisher but then again he's been shit for us, 15 goals in 45 games for someone who is a good finisher.
Shocking when scoring is the best thing about him.
Shocking when scoring is the best thing about him.
Those stats don't surprise me, Dembele is a poor man's Lukaku
I think Martial is a better finisher and player full stop than Rashford. Rashy trumps him on desire and effort of course but I believe Ole should try Martial centrally as I don't think he is a winger and honestly believe he can get 20 plus a season with coaching. Not sure on this Dembele lad but one thing I am sure of is Lukaku is an appalling footballer and unless playing with width and regular crossing we will never get the best out of him. Just not suited to us.
Lukaku might touch the ball a hell of a lot less than Dembele. Do we have average touches per game stats?
Per 90 is a better statistic than per game. Per game could be a 5 minute sub appearance or 60 minute start.
Of course but Lukaku can go huge amounts of time without touching the ball, some say he goes missing. I'm just curious as on average someone could feck up 4 out of 10 touches or someone can feck up 2 out of 4.
Don't know much about Dembele but watch Lukaku every game. Just need to know if a fair comparison.
At 22, I don't think that he is better than Lukaku but he is different and I think that he can be a lot more useful as a member of a unit. He isn't a player that you play for, he plays for the team.
I also think that he would score roughly the same amount of goals in the league, if you play him +2500 minutes.
I also think that he would score roughly the same amount of goals in the league, if you play him +2500 minutes.
The first 10-15 clips are him scoringThis is video is amazing. I have never been so underwhelmed by a player on Youtube before. He barely scores in this video.
Very fast but where have I seen that first touch before?
FFS, thought this thread was about the former Spurs man. Would prefer this kid over Lukaku but not sure if he's going to solve our current issues upfront.
I'm all for this signing but seeing people posting front three's of Dembele, Martial and Rashford desn't really excite me at all. I think all 3 are strikers.
We could really do with some proper wide players to play on each side of our attack. I just hope Ole doesn't neglect adding some proper width into this team.
We could really do with some proper wide players to play on each side of our attack. I just hope Ole doesn't neglect adding some proper width into this team.
Ole likes to play counter attack football...I only see this as an improvement for the team and play Ole's style.
Maybe not title winning yet but at least we'll start winning more games and instill confidence and belief back in the team
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Get a right forward also and drop Rashford. That's what I would do anyway.
I’m not sure this is entirely accurate at all.
Given the position we are in should we not just be buying a World Class starter?
I’m not convinced Dembele is intended to be a bench player, but if he is then in excess of £40m is not very low risk.
We might be as well bringing in Daniel Sturridge for free, and sticking him on the bench if we’re looking for low risk backup.
Entirely accurate? You're being polite, his logic is that we shouldn't buy a top striker because they might not like to sit on the bench. Feck me we're so far away from getting talent for the bench, our current options are the sub-par ones who should be sitting on the bench.
Greenwood will shock everyone. Dembele would be a solid addition. Sanchez and Lukaku out. Greenwood and Dembele in and the overall level rises imo. Age profile, energy and quality.
For me the issue is more to have the correct player in the market, ideally you build from the top, you bring a top player that pushes your current players on the bench but scarcity means that that player may not be available when you go into the market and in that case you need to find someone that will compete with your current options and eventually push them on the bench or forces them to up their game. Of course the second scenario means that you need to be careful with the fee and the age of the player that your bringing because in theory you are still looking for that top player and can't waste money on an obviously inferior option.
That Nicholas Pepe scored more than this guy. (22 goals/11 assists vs Dembele's 15 goals/4 assists)
Although Dembele played less (2014 minutes - Pepe played 3326 minutes)
Although Dembele played less (2014 minutes - Pepe played 3326 minutes)
Going for Pepe makes a lot more sense. Which means we will go for Dembele.
They are different and while Pépé is currently a better player, they don't play the same role and would both fill a need. Pépé is an inside forward that plays on the right while Dembélé is a traditional striker.
Pepe should be avoided imo
Half of Pepe’s goals are penalties.
He provoked 6 of the 9 penalties.
Don't have touches but Lukaku plays 20% more passes which would suggest he doesn't touch the ball a hell of a lot less and likely even touches it more.
Thanks. Not sure then but if he is worse than Lukaku at keeping the ball then it's a huge no for me.
These stats highly depends on context. Statistically in terms of unsuccessful touches, Lukaku is supposed to be better than Kane or Jovic.
That's exactly the situation we ended up with in our defence and I'd like to think we've learnt our lesson. If we're going to conduct our transfer business in such a way like an Everton level club that's exactly what we'll end up as.
All club do that and that's not what we did, relative to the market we were purchasing in we spent top money on the likes of Shaw, Lindelof and Bailly. Our mistake was to spend too much on these players and then not going after the top players when they were available. Bailly and Lindelof in 2016/2017 should have been purchased for the fee that Leicester spent on Maguire while we spent the type of fees that Barcelona spent on Umtiti or Bayern on Hummels/Sule.
Our issues are with matching players and fees, we are all over the place and take strange risks.
Except we finished 2nd when he was our number 9.
He was a good player for us before he decided to turn into Mark Henry. He had a terrific start to his first season here. He scored 8 games in a row or something. He has always had a bad touch but that didn't stop him from getting goals. If he really works on his fitness, he could still be a starter for us.
Yep we also had Jose as manager. So is it Rashford or Oles fault we finished 6th?
What?
Dembele is Far better technically, he’s also a lot more mobile. Big game player, Young, hungry. Hardworking. Needs to score goals more consistently, but he’s got everything you want in a Striker IMO
Can’t see why people would be against it
Lukaku is better that's why.