So was Messis season a failure given he addressed the fans about a CL win?
Was van dyks season a failure for not winning the champions league?
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Was van dyks season a failure for not winning the champions league?
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He was the best player in La Liga for 13/14 season though?They invented the Award just for him like they did it in Spain
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Liga_Awards
He had a normal season. Not exceptional. Not bad from a individual point of view. Yeah but this awards are meaningless and subjective. Next season maybe his last chance to play at a high standard. Let’s see who’s coming to manage them.
They invented the Award just for him like they did it in Spain
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Liga_Awards
Just like when they prolonged that Ballon d'Or voting so he can win.
I'm sure he's also disappointed with the number of goals he scored even if he denied it. Not what you will expect from Ronaldo. Might be thanks to Juve and Allegri being defensive. Him and Juve should be aiming for a better season next year. This season wasn't very good for both, a failure for Juve even.
When you take into consideration that 5 of his 21 goals were penalties his Serie A goal tally actually starts to look quite mediocre, despite having the second highest shots per 90 stat in Europe, after some lad from Montpellier.
The tweet that giflord kindly provided also looks quite frightening and unless something huge happens on the last match day Juve's goal tally will be the lowest it has been in years.
Still, stats don't always tell the whole story, I wonder what Juve/Serie A fans think about him. Is there perhaps a poll at some other place?
The tweet that giflord kindly provided also looks quite frightening and unless something huge happens on the last match day Juve's goal tally will be the lowest it has been in years.
Still, stats don't always tell the whole story, I wonder what Juve/Serie A fans think about him. Is there perhaps a poll at some other place?
I didn't follow Sampdoria enough to judge whether Quagliarella was more deserving than Ronaldo, but the stats presented in this post are very limited and not a convincing argument on their own.
Based on goal+assists per minute Ronaldo would have been better than Messi in 14/15 for example.
Quagliarella scored 10 from penalties. I think there’s a couple more reasons to explain that, but hardly a bad individual season without being exceptional.
Let’s see who’s the next Juventus manager and if he can have 1 more top season.
Don’t get me wrong but those NBA types of stats trying to explain every decisions taken on the pitch by the number of shots or touches... well I don’t buy everything of that.
Having said that is relatively normal a 34 year old player not having the same output of 5 years ago.
And the tweets from Giflord regarding Ronaldo are always well intentioned.
To be honest what jumped out to me most was the shot map. All those low success chance long shots (each of them potentially ending an attack) and only a one goal return.
Best player and MVP are 2 different awards. In 2012-13 season Messi won Best La Liga player yet for some weird reason Ronaldo was also given the MVP award
He still has 2 top years left in him MAYBE 3. When is is 37 I still think he bangs in 20 goals. He will play until he is 38 I reckon.
Juventus are one of the most tactically inept teams at the top of the last 5 years. They have such a weird style of football. The whole mandzukic style is still being played.
after 13 straight years, this is the first time he wasn't among the league's top 3 scorers.
1. Quagliarella 26
2. Zapata 23
3. Piatek 22
4. Ronaldo 21
5. Milik 17
1. Quagliarella 26
2. Zapata 23
3. Piatek 22
4. Ronaldo 21
5. Milik 17
To be fair, he hardly tried in Serie A. He saved everything for the CL. Think he could have easily made up 5 to 6 goals if he went all out in Serie A.
I wouldn't say he hardly tried. Infact, he tried a lot. He played less games than the likes of Fabio and Piatek and still took way more shots. His finishing and shooting just wasn't up to par. He only scored 1 goal outside of the box ALL season.
Player GP Team Total Shots (exc. blocked shots)
1 Cristiano Ronaldo 31 Juventus 132
2 Fabio Quagliarella 37 Sampdoria 113
3 Edin Dzeko 33 Roma 104
4 Krzysztof Piatek 37 Milan 98
5 Arkadiusz Milik 35 Napoli 97
And yet ended up with a similar number of trophies as your hero.
La Liga was a one team league this year too.
Eye test and all that. Did he win the onz D'or too?
No way can the fourth best scorer in serie a win the prestigious onzo dor. They didnt even award it to pele after he won the world cup.
Serie A was even worse.
And Messi’s year statistically was inarguably better than Ronaldo’s
How? Both Barcelona and Juve won the league by 11 points, Barca also pummelling staggering 90 goals during 38 games.
Juve were on pace for an undefeated season, Barca were fighting with Atletico for the longest time.
Juventus had a double digit lead for most of the season and clinched the league earlier than Barca did theirs.
Oh, somebodys upset. Dont worry, Cristiano still loves you.
Where's that thread gone? The one that keeps the Messi brigade out of invading this one? 
Excuses excuses it was easy for both
They've been quiet ever since their hero choked in ANOTHER final.Where's that thread gone? The one that keeps the Messi brigade out of invading this one?
So the Copa del Rey is an irrelevant trophy when Messi wins it, but now it's "choking" when he doesn't? Messi actually played quite well against Valencia
Either way, he's still a much better finals performer than Ronaldo who was the worst player on the pitch in half of his champions league finals and did nothing in either Euro final.
Really good arguments here, good job proving him wrong.
I think I’ll go place a bet on Argentina losing another final.
So this is the Ronaldo defense now?
Dybala last year scored more goals in Serie A than CR
The year before that Higuain also scored more goals
What? So they won the league by a mile and he didn't justify his wages by scoring after the league had already been won?? They pay him money to win titles, not to get an arbitrary amount of completely meaningless goals... and the cup??
Seriously please go watch the Atalanta 3-0 Juventus game.
Juve fans are happy with the transfer and how much they're paying him. Yet the wave of bitter idiots who don't even watch the games can always pick something out of their asses to throw.
Sampdoria scored 11 less goals than Juve in the league... it's not harder to score for Sampdoria than it is for Juventus as the main focus in attack this season, they're just not as clinical. In the second half of the season it's been easier if anything. Just like it's easier for Iago Aspas and Stuani to score more for Celta and Girona than it is for Antoine Griezmann to score for Atletico. They're not better scorers either... Playing for a better team does not make it easier to score goals in a linear fashion.
And no, Juve did not play the past few months by focusing the goalscoring on him or attempt to get him as many goals as possible to get him the top scorer award the way Sampdoria have. Juve bought him to win the Champions League, that's true. They're not winning the Champions League with at least 2 key players out for every knockout game they play and as far as I'm aware Ronaldo's not payed to be the physio. Criticizing a player for not inspiring a team to a Champions League title after one fecking attempt at it with a bunch of injury problems is just incredible but it speaks volumes that there's only one player in the world with those expectations on his shoulders.
Also hilariously ironic that a Barcelona fan can come to this thread talking about wasting wages on not winning the Champions League with the biggest wage bill this sport has ever seen and humiliation after humiliation in Europe... or do Barca pay their players to win their one team league where they can steal the second placed team's best players like it's nothing?
First, I'm not criticizing him for not winning the UCL this year, I said he's done as much as he can, problems lie elsewhere.
Second, at least Juve has 10 goals on Sampdoria, Atleti has 2 goals on Celta, yeah and 17 on Girona too, but your comparison is absurd. Griezmann's problem doesn't come from his inhability or not to score, he's not the reference forward, and he has a load of defensive duties that neither Aspas or Stuani have for their teams, nevermind Ronaldo for Juve.
And lastly, "it's easier to score for Sampdoria than Juve".
Juve play more through passes
Juve spend more time outside their own third
Juve score almost double the goals from open play.
He needs less shots to score more goals. And scored most of his goals from crosses, in the same league as the best striker in the world
How in hell it's easier for Quag to score than Ronaldo?
Because Atletico de Madrid and Napoli are teams of the same caliber. Might even say that PSG and Mbappe had it only a little harder than the other two at this point of the argument then, only 16 points on Lille and 1 point over Juve.
He's the focal point of the attack in a way that Ronaldo wasn't, played every single minute for months and months with the team bothering to play a full season just to get him goals rather than stopping playing football with 4 months to go in the season, got a record amount of penalties and ddin't spent the first couple of months of the season adjusting to a new team. Have you watched Juventus play football in Serie A since February?First, I'm not criticizing him for not winning the UCL this year, I said he's done as much as he can, problems lie elsewhere.
Second, at least Juve has 10 goals on Sampdoria, Atleti has 2 goals on Celta, yeah and 17 on Girona too, but your comparison is absurd. Griezmann's problem doesn't come from his inhability or not to score, he's not the reference forward, and he has a load of defensive duties that neither Aspas or Stuani have for their teams, nevermind Ronaldo for Juve.
And lastly, "it's easier to score for Sampdoria than Juve".
Juve cross the ball more
Juve play more through passes
Juve spend more time outside their own third
Juve score almost double the goals from open play.
He needs less shots to score more goals. And scored most of his goals from crosses, in the same league as the best striker in the world
How in hell it's easier for Quag to score than Ronaldo?
Funny how the same people who spent years criticizing him for being selfish and statpadding his goals now criticize him for not doing it.
Juve cross the ball one more time per match than Sampdoria therefore it's easier to score for them... what actually happened is that Juve went 1-0 early in games, Mandzukic was out injured for most of the season and they crossed it over and over again to a Ronaldo playing out of position stuck between 4 defenders with barely a chance to score with him having to create pretty much most of his chances.
You'll see next season with no Allegri how things would look in normal circumstances.
He was our best forward in the 2004 final and our best player in the 2004, 2006, 2012 and 2016 semifinals. Maybe if other players showed up more often they'd have got to play loads of finals and had a chance of winning them without having to play above average in them.
This Barcelona fan colective hivemind obsession about Cristiano Ronaldo has to be one of the most insane phenomenons in football.
Don't know if you people have noticed but he's left Real Madrid. It's over. Support your club for once.
I am not his fan but his performance this year for a 34 year old is top notch. You will have a hard time to find any player at this age deliver this kind of performance before or even after him. It is a new league and new team for him too. The closest guy I see can play at a high level over 30 is Ibrahimović & Cavani.
To be fair, you lot are much easier to bait in to an uncontrollable rage.This
You don’t see us spamming in the other guys thread.
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