But could this develop if given time?
The thought of losing Rashford
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
Hmm that's funny because this report says this:
'Hunter concluded that the reports were likely spread to either help Rashford in his contract negotiations with the club, or the result of “guesswork."
https://www.offtheball.com/soccer/cant-see-rashford-going-barcelona-graham-hunter-841841
Rashford can be a good player, I think he has the talent. Maybe not a world class talent, but he has some useful attributes.
However, overhyping him, giving him preferential treatment etc is only hindering him at the moment. You red tinted specs folks who love to hype him are half the problem, it all feeds into the perception of him as some kind of fans favourite elite player, but the reality is he is flattering to deceive. He spent the vast chunk of last season being shocking, with an occasional (excellent) purple patch. He needs to learn the importance of being an effective team player over being flashy. Until he does, I doubt any top team will be remotely interested, particularly at the ridiculous price he would be tagged at.
Hope he doesn't leave, but at the same time would rather he left than the kind of poor handling we saw last season. We need proper competition for his place.
Now what would make you think that?
In all honesty since he broke through 3 and half years ago he's had about 4 months of actual good form. I can't see Barcelona wanting him, he'd be mental to leave anyway, he won't get the amount of trust he gets here anywhere else.
Can leave if he wants. I thought the point of going for young hungry British players was they wouldn't leave when the foreign big clubs came snooping.
Lazy one.
Welbeck scored 29 for United, and Rashford is already up to 45 in less time, and without playing for the good version of United that Welbeck did.
It's not really less time, Rashford's played 30 more games for us than Welbeck.
Yours is lazy as well. Rashford actually played more matches already (2000+ mins more) than Welbeck did.
That’s actually quite surprising to be honest.
You're all lazy
People underestimate how good he could become. I’m confident we’d regret losing him in a few years.
He is pretty much the first name on the teamsheet for the past 3 years which kind of sums up the state we are in.
100 percent sure Barcelona aren’t in for him and even if they were I wouldn’t be sad losing him for a great price. However they aren’t in for him even if it was free so there’s that.
One of those stats that seems so hard to believe. But when you think about it, he’s played in more or less all of our games for three years.
One of the few I'd be a little sorry to see leave. Woodward's piece of 'business' with Sanchez has given these players agents a stick to beat him with,however.
We need to recalibrate. Rashford is not yet good enough to be demanding a huge salary (accepting that footballers salaries are already pretty obscene). If he wants to accept a reasonable offer and be part of OGS's rebuild, great. If he 's decided he's already King of the Hill then we need to get the best fee possible and let him move on.
We need to recalibrate. Rashford is not yet good enough to be demanding a huge salary (accepting that footballers salaries are already pretty obscene). If he wants to accept a reasonable offer and be part of OGS's rebuild, great. If he 's decided he's already King of the Hill then we need to get the best fee possible and let him move on.
If it’s true, I actually think it would be great for his development and growth. I can see him growing and learning a lot there. It will benefit the England team as a result.
I always wondered why when going to Old Trafford that the fans didn't make an effort to sing our anthems and help our team on.
It's becoming clear that we can blame Woodward and Co for turning this club to a theme park - but the fans treat it not much more than a tourist attraction.
They all pull the hatred for scousers 24/7 but anything else is pretty much in the pan if we ain't winning anything.
It's becoming clear that we can blame Woodward and Co for turning this club to a theme park - but the fans treat it not much more than a tourist attraction.
They all pull the hatred for scousers 24/7 but anything else is pretty much in the pan if we ain't winning anything.
We’re all fecking lazy, except Jesse, he runs. A lot.
That’s just not a given at United. First team players here have been hitting a ceiling very quickly and then finding it unable to break through. That’s not just down to the players by any means as it would have a lot to do with the club’s approach to training and developing the first teamers.
I'm amongst the ones that don't believe he's ready to lead the line for us but I'd be gutted if he leaves. He has the tools to become a really good player and that should happen here. Not at fecking Barca. I don't think there's any truth in the links mind.
No chance unless it was for 50/60 mill so they can concentrate on other areas. So in that case whats the point of selling. 100 plus then id say sell. He just doesn't have a strikers instinct.
He shouldn't be asking for anything close to world class wages, and if he is, let him go., or tell him no, and see how he responds.
I wouldn't mind the player staying, but he shouldn't be a starter. I also think he could become a really good player, but he should be on, and remain on, substitute wages as he has done nothing to justify more.
More power to any club willing to pay him a superstar's wage, and fairplay to his agent if he finds one. There's no way Barcelona are that club - if he went there, he'd be a squaddie, at best, but I highly doubt they have any interest in him as he does not have the skill/technical profile they look for in forwards.
I wouldn't mind the player staying, but he shouldn't be a starter. I also think he could become a really good player, but he should be on, and remain on, substitute wages as he has done nothing to justify more.
More power to any club willing to pay him a superstar's wage, and fairplay to his agent if he finds one. There's no way Barcelona are that club - if he went there, he'd be a squaddie, at best, but I highly doubt they have any interest in him as he does not have the skill/technical profile they look for in forwards.
Probably paper talk, but he is still a young man, and still has a lot to learn. Would still like to see him play from the right initially, not as a winger (although could take on full back in a 1 v 1 situation), but coming in on his left foot, and creating opportunities for other players, instead of shooting every time. Could make his left more reliable, and help with vision. I think when he plays as a striker, his mindset is that he must score goals, in this position, he would be more creative, and hopefully become a more rounded player.
I of course would like to keep him, but I think the Caf’ generally (or at least has been) over-rating the feck out of him. I don’t think he’ll ever be as good as some people think he’ll be. I could very well be completely wrong but I don’t think his ceiling is world class.
There are plenty of players who I’d take over him, irregardless if he’s a local lad or not.
It’s a shame he’s in his last season - because it’s a big season for him in my eyes. I think he cares for the club, but his attitude sometimes on the pitch annoys the feck out of me.
Plus, he for sure isn’t clinical enough, let alone good enough, to be our starting striker.
There are plenty of players who I’d take over him, irregardless if he’s a local lad or not.
It’s a shame he’s in his last season - because it’s a big season for him in my eyes. I think he cares for the club, but his attitude sometimes on the pitch annoys the feck out of me.
Plus, he for sure isn’t clinical enough, let alone good enough, to be our starting striker.
The thought of losing Rashford...doesn’t bother me in the slightest. Especially not when it’s reported he (his agent) is hoping for a 300k deal. He’s barely worth half that at this time
If he is not good enough, we will sell him and if he is than I don't think he will leave.
Madrid sold morata to get a better striker. I don't care if we sell him if he doesn't develop the way we like him to be and go too much the lingard way.
Madrid sold morata to get a better striker. I don't care if we sell him if he doesn't develop the way we like him to be and go too much the lingard way.
Rashford is being given an incredibly hard time, at a very young age. To my mind, that shows how good he is, especially given some forumites are comparing him and saying he's not as good as Mbappe, or similar. That's the kind of level he's being told is his potential.
I think it's obvious he's one of the most talented young players in Britain. A lot of people on here seem very unforgiving of a young player not putting a Man Utd shirt and basically becoming superman. At the same time, other young players get a pass. It seems arbitrary, but let's be honest, Rashford IS of the level where top clubs in Europe would be interested in buying him based on his potential. Man Utd can't afford to lose a player like that, but nor should they pay exorbitant wages for someone who is not yet the finished article.
I think it's obvious he's one of the most talented young players in Britain. A lot of people on here seem very unforgiving of a young player not putting a Man Utd shirt and basically becoming superman. At the same time, other young players get a pass. It seems arbitrary, but let's be honest, Rashford IS of the level where top clubs in Europe would be interested in buying him based on his potential. Man Utd can't afford to lose a player like that, but nor should they pay exorbitant wages for someone who is not yet the finished article.
Contract negotiations I guess
He needs to practice on that shot and if it doesn't improve he should just stop doing it. He is really talented and with the right manager he might make it, we should keep him but he's nowhere near a 300k a week player.
The type of wage he wants would put him on par or even above some of the best players in the world. He's not even worth 50k a week never mind 200. Elite european clubs don't want Rashford and we should be willing to put our foot down instead of signing these ridiculous deals ala Young/Smalling/Jones.
Nobody is stupid enough to pay him 150k per week based on current performance. Not barcelona.
He's got the youth academy premium with us his whole package is greater than the sum of his ability. At barcelona he's just another better than average 20ish prospect who happens to sell shirt in england.
Objectively speaking do you see him feature week in week out at Barcelona?
He's got the youth academy premium with us his whole package is greater than the sum of his ability. At barcelona he's just another better than average 20ish prospect who happens to sell shirt in england.
Objectively speaking do you see him feature week in week out at Barcelona?
This kind of mentality is hindering us. Potential this potential that. No wonder we're 6th. We're playing kids with "potentials" instead of players who realized their potentials.
When can we win the title? Wait till rashford develop his potential?
Can leave and if we can get a good amount of money while doing so, it's an added bonus. Not good enough to lead the line here and has never showed anything to suggest otherwise.
Doubt. Hope not.
I expect this to be ongoing from now on every season "Rashford is leaving for (insert club name)!". If it's as usual media/press bs, then I'm fine with it, but if the sources actually came from (sort of) his agent just to haggle a better contract with us with a ridiculous wage demands... feck it. Just f-off. No class.
I expect this to be ongoing from now on every season "Rashford is leaving for (insert club name)!". If it's as usual media/press bs, then I'm fine with it, but if the sources actually came from (sort of) his agent just to haggle a better contract with us with a ridiculous wage demands... feck it. Just f-off. No class.
This thread is proof that this forum is away to shit the last few years. People that want Rashford gone or not bothered if he goes don't get United in my opinion. Each to there own and all but Marcus is one of the only genuine things at United.
He's only 21 and can has scored past everyone in this league. There is definitely room for improvement but Rashford in 4 years will be one of the best about I think. Yes his free kick taking and finishing can be improved on but I doubt anyone cares as much as him about the club. I remember Ronaldo being incredibly frustrating at his age, you could see the talent. I'm not saying he'll be that level but putting perspective of where he is. We played our best football under Ole when Rashford was at it, he definitely was carrying an injury since the Liverpool game. This place is becoming disheartening, the players aren't the only the problem with the club at the minute.
He's only 21 and can has scored past everyone in this league. There is definitely room for improvement but Rashford in 4 years will be one of the best about I think. Yes his free kick taking and finishing can be improved on but I doubt anyone cares as much as him about the club. I remember Ronaldo being incredibly frustrating at his age, you could see the talent. I'm not saying he'll be that level but putting perspective of where he is. We played our best football under Ole when Rashford was at it, he definitely was carrying an injury since the Liverpool game. This place is becoming disheartening, the players aren't the only the problem with the club at the minute.
Rashford is not the reason united are sixth, he's been one of the few bright spots in an otherwise shower of mediocrity being paraded around the club.
When you have Ashley young, Rojo and the likes of Jones being relied upon to be key players at a club, 6th is an over achievement. None of them are either young or have potential.
When the club extended Rojo, Jones, and Young contracts with >100k/wk, of course he wants a parity of that. There is also Martial on 200-250k/wk who's done less than him.
He could be a problem, much depend on his wage demand. I'm not sure how people can neglect this aspect. Or are you on the "do everything to keep him here" brigade?