Those eight goals and three assists in the league will take us far.
In fact we really should pony up and sign him on a permanent.
Let’s sign Gareth Bale
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
In fact we really should pony up and sign him on a permanent.
running towards the Stretford end with that shitty heart celebration, no thanks
Getting Bale on loan makes a lot of sense. Yes his wages are exorbitant but we'd get, when fit, a world class right winger for a season until say Sancho becomes available next summer.
How many games did he start?
Gareth Bale is better than Rory Delap
Assuming he gets up from the physio's table, or we've managed to pry him from the golf course...
If it is a loan, and only a loan, then I can get behind this.
21 starts and 8 substitute appearances. Yet he didn’t even play twenty games’ worth of minutes. Which tells me he was getting hooked early quite a bit.
Better than the JLingz one but fortunately we only see that once or twice a season.
"It's cheap"
Not when you don't own the asset, it's not. If you loan him and fail to get top four (a strong possibility, given he's on the decline) it's literally wasted money with zero upside.
Not when you don't own the asset, it's not. If you loan him and fail to get top four (a strong possibility, given he's on the decline) it's literally wasted money with zero upside.
Hardly terrible stats considering he played only 1800 minutes. If we get him on loan for free (paying wages only), I don't think it would be the worst scenario for us. It would be a good stopgap for a year while we could focus on Sancho deal (if we REALLY want him).
Madrid fans were already booing Bale's awful performances before Zidane returned.
Zidane doesn't seem to rate him but I don't think it's personal. If Bale was playing fantastically and Zidane was benching him anyway then maybe but that's not the case.
This guy is apparently telling Real Madrid he is staying. He would sooner stay on the bench at Real that play football for us, so why would we take him? He's turned us down at every available opportunity in his career, so I hope to feck we turn him down now let him stay on the bench like he wants.
Reeks of Di Maria. A player forced out who is only coming to us as a last resort. His heart will not be in United.
Reeks of Di Maria. A player forced out who is only coming to us as a last resort. His heart will not be in United.
I was referring to when zidane was there before
On loan? Sure thing!
That wasn’t my point. The fact that he played less than twenty matches worth of minutes in 21 starts and nearly 30 appearances is quite damning.
He’s still a crock. So no matter how good he is or isn’t when he’s fit is irrelevant.
I honestly can’t believe how so many could support such a stupid notion after Falcao, Bastian and Sanchez.
The only fans who should rightly be excited are Madridistas.
People seriously happy with United signing a past it,consistently injured,prima-donna player in Bale.
Even on loan I wouldn't go near him.
Even on loan I wouldn't go near him.
Better option than having no right wing at all I say! I'd rather a Bale than Lingard/Mata who end up nowhere near the touchline for 95% of the game. Or have retired that position in honour of Ronaldo like teams do with shirt numbers!
I don't "support" it but I think we can do much worse than getting him on loan for 1 season, certainly better than seeing Jlingz and Mata on the right again.
Crikey,its not Mata,Lingard,James or Bale.There are other options out there for the RW spot past the crooked Welsh winger.
I wonder how much of this loan deal is Ole’s decision rather than a Glazer spawn whim. Didn’t they learn anything from signing Sanchez?
Yes. Yes indeed I am very much happy with signing a guy in his twenties more talented than anyone in our squad, who just one year ago scored an increadible bicycle goal in the Champions League Final and had 14 goals in 42 (not claiming those stats are immense) games thise season. Oh, and he has four CL trophies, thats one more than our entire squad and staff has.
I don't think this will happen. Even Ed and Co can't be stupid enough to have watched what happened with Sanchez - a very similarly aged, and profiled player - and not see an enormous failure. Bale is a poster boy for 'this season's Sanchez'.
Are Madrid also the problem?
His hunger/desire/zest for bleedin’ life (outside of golf) looks gone. It’s also telling that it only ever seems to be Utd that are consistently linked with him (Spurs also, though the reasons for that are obvious).
The knock on effect of bringing in yet another superstar with a huge status on massive wages is too risky. We aren’t in a position to take a chance like this. There are no sure things when it comes to transfers but we’re surely all agreed that what his team needs is fight and a willingness to prove that they, and United, deserve to be on top. The opportunity cost of bringing him in and missing out on someone that actually wants it makes this a no-go.
Bale has shown repeatedly he has no interest whatsoever in United, or leaving Madrid. fecking uber pass.
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Chamces are it's not happening.
What’s his wage £600k a week?
Rather than loan I expect we’ll buy him for (say) £50m but. Real will pay him off a similar amount over the course of his contract and we will pay him a much smaller salary, potentially pay as play.
That way real can get cash in for the ffp
Rather than loan I expect we’ll buy him for (say) £50m but. Real will pay him off a similar amount over the course of his contract and we will pay him a much smaller salary, potentially pay as play.
That way real can get cash in for the ffp
Even if and this is a big if he is brilliant for 1 season and injuries are not bad. Maybe he is injured all the time but comes back and plays brilliantly at the end of the season. Wonder goal against City. Then what? We give him back and we are back to square 1. Or even worse everyone will say keep him and we fork out 80-100 on him and 400 a week. Then he spends the next 3 seasons playing 10 games a year. Its ridiculous. Have we not learnt anything? Which big team does this? None
Yes we will be the tools who do Madrid the massive favour of getting this guy off their books. There's a reason they want rid.
When is this club going to learn that washed up big names aren't going to take us anywhere.
When is this club going to learn that washed up big names aren't going to take us anywhere.
If a loan happens it’ll be with a transfer fee agreed. There are two scenarios here, both aren’t good:
a) he does well. We then sign an injury prone 30/31 year old winger for c.£60m
b) he does badly. We’ve just wasted a place in the squad, the money for his wages, and taken game time away from someone more likely to become a better player.
The article seems to suggest its a 50M deal for a loan and an option to extend it a year further. So it will likely be 6M or so per season in loan fee, 15M a year for his wages + 4M or so in bonuses for hitting some targets like him scoring 15+ goals or United winning the league.
What's there to lose with a loan deal if he wants to be here? We must have Real pay part of the wages though, feck the 600k pw
I'm okay with getting him on loan for 1 year with no obligation to buy. We still need RW and he's better than what we have. If we could get into top 4 next season then I think we'll get Sancho
We shouldn’t be desperate to get this done - the ball should very much be in our court. So yeah, loan fees or percentage of wages - however the cost is broke down hold out for a ‘good’ deal and this should be seen as a positive gamble. If it’s going to be too much just leave the offer on the table and walk away.
Folk moaning about him not wanting to be here don’t seem to understand that if was to come that would, in fact, indicate that he wasn’t happy to just sit on the bench and see out his contract in Madrid. I don’t see why anyone would grudge him signing for Tottenham or Madrid over us either, or why that should exclude him signing now.
The Bale and Lingard renewal stories this morning make me feel ill. I know it’s press garbage but sometimes there is some truth behind them. If the club did either of these I’d be questioning what it is about a modern United I have an attachment too.
I wonder are there blokes on the inter forum who didn't want Alexis last season rationalizing why they should loan him and pay 'just' his wages. And bale has double the wages.
He’s not a great fit for a typical right wing role anymore though - he certainly doesn’t have the stomach for tracking fullbacks on the run anymore. He would need the kind of freedom afforded to Messi, Ronaldo, Neymar and Hazard from a wide position.
He wouldn’t compliment Martial being deployed on the other side of the pitch either - you can’t allow both of them that kind of luxury and asking either of them to put in the requisite work would severely hamper their effectiveness. If Daniel James is the workhorse he’s made out to be perhaps he could provide that balance.
Let's bring in Sanchez 2.0 for £25m a year to be injured most of the time and in poor form the rest, when we already have to pay Sanchez 1.0 £18m a year for exactly the same output.
£43m a year for two glass has-beens to collapse our wage structure and cost the club hundreds of millions in inflated wages and agent fees down the line.......
If this happens it would be unadulterated idiocy.
£43m a year for two glass has-beens to collapse our wage structure and cost the club hundreds of millions in inflated wages and agent fees down the line.......
If this happens it would be unadulterated idiocy.
It seems like our main target is Sancho (and in a perfect world you would hope we would be all over Mbappe should he be on the move) and it also seems like we might not be able to get him this summer but are hopeful for the next. Given the situation, i think we have a couple of options: sign someone else that we regard as less of a player but would still command a huge fee, or take a bit of a gamble on Bale.
The thing is, there are a lot of elements that i think Bale has that fit very well for what United wants: a right winger (also capable on the left), lots of pace and skill, capable of world class moments. His age might not be such a bad thing either since in Martial, Rashford, James, Greenwood we have some young players that could do with playing with a player that has won it all.
There are also elements that go completely against what we want from new signings: a world class player that might not be at his best anymore, big wages, maybe a bit of an ego. But most of this negatives are somewhat negated for me given that it's a one year loan rather then a transfer. If it works out then great, if not, we will be going after our main target next year anyway.
I'm a bit undecided on this but if we can't get our main targets this summer but we know we will the next, then i think i would rather Bale on a one year loan then splash the cash on 3ed, 4th options down the list.
The thing is, there are a lot of elements that i think Bale has that fit very well for what United wants: a right winger (also capable on the left), lots of pace and skill, capable of world class moments. His age might not be such a bad thing either since in Martial, Rashford, James, Greenwood we have some young players that could do with playing with a player that has won it all.
There are also elements that go completely against what we want from new signings: a world class player that might not be at his best anymore, big wages, maybe a bit of an ego. But most of this negatives are somewhat negated for me given that it's a one year loan rather then a transfer. If it works out then great, if not, we will be going after our main target next year anyway.
I'm a bit undecided on this but if we can't get our main targets this summer but we know we will the next, then i think i would rather Bale on a one year loan then splash the cash on 3ed, 4th options down the list.
I would absolutely take him on loan. And play him centre forward. If we got him, he’d immediately be favourite to be our top scorer.
We cannot exclusively rely on developing u21s to get our goals for us. Some seniority that can hit the ground running would be huge for us, make us a totally different proposition.
We cannot exclusively rely on developing u21s to get our goals for us. Some seniority that can hit the ground running would be huge for us, make us a totally different proposition.
This. Every day of the week.